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N/A 2TG running 13's?2TG fans..we need ur support!! Wed, 26 November 2003 23:52 Go to next message
hey i was told by someone...and have herd it before that there are a few naturaly asperated 2TG'z that are running 13'z?? with just a 3T crank and bored out to a 2L....and head work and valves...ect...but is it posibble for a 2TG 2 run such good times???

[Updated on: Sat, 29 November 2003 00:07]

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Re: N/A 2TG running 13's??? Wed, 26 November 2003 23:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Anything is possible, but it would take a lot of money to build a NA 2T-G with that much power.
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Re: N/A 2TG running 13's??? Wed, 26 November 2003 23:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
yer thats wat i would think...so it is possible?? how much hourses u recon it would be??
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Re: N/A 2TG running 13's??? Wed, 26 November 2003 23:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Depends on what type of vehicle you put it into.
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Re: N/A 2TG running 13's??? Wed, 26 November 2003 23:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
tru enough, wat if that vehcle was a ta22..?.still possible?
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Re: N/A 2TG running 13's??? Thu, 27 November 2003 00:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
I've heard 15.5 with a 2t/3t hybrid with some head work and cams.
and also 14.9 (not sure of specs). Keep in mind a 15.5 will beat a lot of cars on the street.. about 80%.

I think i did a search a while ago when i was starting my hybrid 2t/3t buildup and i came across a couple of posts of people quoting 1/4 mile times from thier setups.. When i get mine up and running i'll give it a run down the 1/4 and post the results.

Cost for a good 2tg to build to run a 14 may be around $3000-4000 depending how you spend your $$.

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Re: N/A 2TG running 13's??? Thu, 27 November 2003 00:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
ahh tru....wat are the specs of your hybrid??? wat u recoment to get a 2tg to b fast enough to beet a VK with a syline turbo'd engine in it???hahahaha....iz it possible? concidering that it may wiegh a good couple tones?
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Re: N/A 2TG running 13's??? Thu, 27 November 2003 07:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
thats easy - Strap a turbo to the 2tg, then work that ..

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Re: N/A 2TG running 13's??? Thu, 27 November 2003 07:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
freakincage_com wrote on Thu, 27 November 2003 11:16

ahh tru....wat are the specs of your hybrid??? wat u recoment to get a 2tg to b fast enough to beet a VK with a syline turbo'd engine in it???hahahaha....iz it possible? concidering that it may wiegh a good couple tones?


turbo and remove 200kg Wink

drag times are all about power/torque to weight ratios. with same power 200kg less will be faster.

how fast can you afford to go Wink

maybe use of the many many ET/HP calculators on the net to work out how much HP you need to make a TA22 get into the 12's....

Cya, Stewart
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Re: N/A 2TG running 13's??? Thu, 27 November 2003 08:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
a little n/a 2/3T is NOT going to beat some turbo monster hybrid.

look into the FI route, or just be happy with a slower (and more sensible) 14 sec quarter
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Re: N/A 2TG running 13's??? Thu, 27 November 2003 08:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Exactery ...

dravens right Smile
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Re: N/A 2TG running 13's??? Thu, 27 November 2003 08:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
of course I'm right
I'm always right!
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Re: N/A 2TG running 13's??? Thu, 27 November 2003 08:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
except for when your wrong - then you COULD be right anyway - if circumstances were different Wink
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Re: N/A 2TG running 13's??? Thu, 27 November 2003 14:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
whats a stock 2t-g run in a quarter and 0-100 anywhoo???






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Re: N/A 2TG running 13's??? Thu, 27 November 2003 14:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
A friend ran mid 17's many years ago in a fresh 2TG'd TA22.
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Re: N/A 2TG running 13's??? Thu, 27 November 2003 15:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
nice Very Happy
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Re: N/A 2TG running 13's??? Fri, 28 November 2003 10:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
i recon more of u 2TG owners should go for the N/A rought as aposed to the F/I....it just isnt right, i mean the motor is a good 30 yrs old and u shuld run it natully?? i mean u hear of a big 8 N/A...wat bout a big 4???....lol
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Re: N/A 2TG running 13's??? Fri, 28 November 2003 11:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
4's are a bit hard to get massive hp out of naturally...unless you spend 10k+ replacing every single component within. Then, you still wont even come close to a worked 8.
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Re: N/A 2TG running 13's??? Fri, 28 November 2003 12:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
My mistake. Shocked Rolling Eyes

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Re: N/A 2TG running 13's??? Fri, 28 November 2003 12:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
i believe that the referenced term "F/I" was being used to represent the words "Forced Induction", i this case the implication of use of a turbocharger or supercharger.

Mid 17's from a 2T-G TA22!!?! No wonder people want an 18R-G in their TA22's!

My worn out all clattery 18R-GU ran a 16.819 recently, and about a month later it blew up! I would've thought the 2T-G to perform a little better than that.
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Re: N/A 2TG running 13's??? Fri, 28 November 2003 13:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
I stand corrected.

I had a TA22 with 18R-G, now have a TA22 with 2T-G, and miss that punch in the midrange that the 2T-G sadly lacks.

In fact, I'm kinda sick of having to rev the guts out of it to get it to move.
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Re: N/A 2TG running 13's??? Sat, 29 November 2003 01:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Same deal with mine, everyone thinks i'm trying to drag when i'm taking off normally.. (revving the crap outta it) If I want to take off discretly, i have to short change and end up slower than all the conservative drivers...
Thats why i'm doing the 2t/3t hybrid conversion to see if the 1.8L will improve the low/mid a bit.

If anyone has torque specs i'd love them as i can't assemble the engine till i've got them!!

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Re: N/A 2TG running 13's??? Sat, 29 November 2003 06:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
try and find that bloke Sean Moloney. he is a toyota twin cam specialist. He will be able to get the info you need. I don't have his number, Call toyospares in bayswater and ask for matt. then speak to matt about getting seans ph number.
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Re: N/A 2TG running 13's??? Sat, 29 November 2003 08:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Quote:

try and find that bloke Sean Moloney. ... Call toyospares in bayswater and ask for matt. then speak to matt about getting seans ph number.



Or you could just

  • call Sean Maloney on 03 9428 5277. Razz
  • visit Sean Maloney at IDB Automotive (65 Butler Street, Richmond VIC) Razz Razz


Respect this man.
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Re: N/A 2TG running 13's??? Sat, 29 November 2003 08:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
hahah sumone finks dey got the conections Razz...hahaha
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Re: N/A 2TG running 13's??? Sat, 29 November 2003 08:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Nup! Razz

I just see him to be a true professional - informed, considered, technically minded. I've found him to only say what he can support, clearly delineating between fact, opinion and hypothesis.

That, in my mind, affords him a right to a mention when appropriate - far better to support this businessman than "Dodgy Bros. Motor Works Inc.", don't you think?

He doesn't know me from a bar of soap. =P

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Re: N/A 2TG running 13's??? Sat, 29 November 2003 08:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
hahaha i c....well i'm thinkin of turboin my 2TG now.....much more cost effective....
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Re: N/A 2TG running 13's?2TG fans..we need ur support!! Sat, 31 January 2004 04:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
hmm all those figures are interesting.....tell me guys your ponderings...
im doing the 2t/3t conversion, lightened+balanced flywheel, mild cams, extractors.
2 inch exhaust later, maybe better intake, and maybe webers. in the mean time ill get the solexs retuned.

how do you reckon that will go boys?
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Re: N/A 2TG running 13's?2TG fans..we need ur support!! Sat, 31 January 2004 04:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
mid 15's
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Re: N/A 2TG running 13's?2TG fans..we need ur support!! Sat, 31 January 2004 07:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
reckon a port n polish would bring that down much?
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Re: N/A 2TG running 13's?2TG fans..we need ur support!! Sat, 31 January 2004 08:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
possibly

i have been told port and polish isnt a very good modification to make as far as power vs dollar goes as the difference is neglible

im sure there are others here with different opinions though, it is best to talk to a professional about these things and advise them of the other changes you are making, perhaps sean maloney ?

cheers
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Re: N/A 2TG running 13's?2TG fans..we need ur support!! Sat, 31 January 2004 09:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
does the 3t crank give the 2tg a better midrang of power????

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Re: N/A 2TG running 13's?2TG fans..we need ur support!! Sat, 31 January 2004 10:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
does chelsey lain masterbate ?
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Re: N/A 2TG running 13's?2TG fans..we need ur support!! Sun, 01 February 2004 12:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
I built a 2TG/3T for my ta22 a fair few years ago and the best time I pulled was a 14.8 average times were 15.1 .
MODS:-- A little port work , 288 degree cams ,.040" oversize 3T pistons which I fly cut for valve clearances , 11.2-1 CR , 4 to 1 extractors , 2" exhaust , original carbs with 34mm chokes and a lot of time tuning .

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Re: N/A 2TG running 13's?2TG fans..we need ur support!! Mon, 02 February 2004 03:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
I see alot of posts with 2tgs with 40 and 44 mm carbs using small chokes (presumably secondary venturis) I found that the small chokes kept the engine from making power at the top of the RPM band. My 2tg has 304/288 cams mild port job trd valve train and 44mm mikunis with no chokes. The jets were adjusted accordingly the car pulls strongly up to and past the 7500 redline(self imposed) As there is no track close by I will one day put it on the dyno and see what type of power it has. open the carbs up and increase the jet size to match and see the difference. Good Luck

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Re: N/A 2TG running 13's?2TG fans..we need ur support!! Sun, 15 February 2004 15:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
hey, my ta22 has those little vents in the bonnet, it appears as tho they are not actually open, ie they are just blocked up bits of plastic....so, would it be better if i open them up a little for cooling purposes? oh, and also, would u suggest leaving the front rubber off in the engine bay for cooling? (the one under the winscreen) would this damage my bonnet when i close it, let rain in etc....
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Re: N/A 2TG running 13's?2TG fans..we need ur support!! Sun, 15 February 2004 16:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
um, I don't recommend removing that rubber, its a cushion for the bonnet ! Cooling effects would not be worth the extra wear and tear. Also cutting the vents could prove pointless.
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Re: N/A 2TG running 13's?2TG fans..we need ur support!! Mon, 16 February 2004 11:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
are there any pulleys or anything on the 2tg i can piss off to help performance a little? ie. if it had air conditioning that would be chucked over the fence.
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Re: N/A 2TG running 13's?2TG fans..we need ur support!! Mon, 16 February 2004 13:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
gmsta27 wrote on Mon, 02 February 2004 14:13

. My 2tg has 304/288 cams mild port job trd valve train and 44mm mikunis with no chokes. The jets were adjusted accordingly the car pulls strongly up to and past the 7500 redline(self imposed)
Greg


Heya Greg,
so with no chokes, how does the carb provide the vacuum to pull out and atomise the fuel?? are you saying you have a carb that has parallel sides all the way through? care to grab a pic?
Cya, Stewart
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Re: N/A 2TG running 13's?2TG fans..we need ur support!! Mon, 16 February 2004 14:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Here's link to 13's N/A 2TG website:
http://petteriu.crosswinds.net/uusitaloracing/Toyo 98/home.html
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Re: N/A 2TG running 13's?2TG fans..we need ur support!! Wed, 18 February 2004 05:04 Go to previous message
Stewart, primary venturis present sit in the center of the bore on two stalks, secondary venturis (chokes) absent carbs are 44mm straight through. I would put some pictures up but can't seem to figure out how. Check your PM

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