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2jzgte 440cc /550cc injectors
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Fri, 23 January 2004 04:31
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NOT AVAIL ATM but i have a set of 440cc 2jzgte jap spec injector in my 1jzgte atm , im running out of fuel so im sourcing some 2jzgte 550cc US/UK spec injectors .. i MIGHT be able to get 2 sets of 550cc .. 1 for me and one to sell .. i just wanna see what sorta reaction i get for them ,,
So basically 1 set of 440cc jap spec .. show of hands ( offers )
and 1 set of US spec 550cc .. show of hands ..
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I supported Toymods
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November 2003
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Re: 2jzgte 440cc /550cc injectors
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Fri, 23 January 2004 06:46
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How much do you want for the 440cc injectors
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perth WA
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Re: 2jzgte 440cc /550cc injectors
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Fri, 23 January 2004 12:42
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440 cc inj would be about 350 posted within aust for the set .. i also have the stock 380cc 1jzgte inj available NOW .. at offers .. not asking much .. !!
the 550cc i would wanna probly sell for 500 the set ..
fair pricing ?? anyone ?? reactions??
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September 2003
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Re: 2jzgte 440cc /550cc injectors
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Sat, 24 January 2004 03:13
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I have 550cc on my 3SGTE off a supra. I am upgrading to 720cc. Therefore I have no ned for the 550cc. Do you want to buy them off me? If so how much you offering?
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September 2003
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Re: 2jzgte 440cc /550cc injectors
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Sat, 24 January 2004 03:17
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never mind my last post. I only have 4x550cc injectors so no use to you.
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Re: 2jzgte 440cc /550cc injectors
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Sat, 24 January 2004 03:23
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Stylux
The 440cc injectors should sell easily for $300-350 - there have been at least half a dozen sets sold for those $$$ in the last few months on the ALSC.
Search the yank Supra forums - you should be able to find some 550's for about USD $200 like I and a few others have.
PM me when you're ready to sell the 440's and I'll put a serious buyer on to you easily.
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perth WA
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January 2003
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Re: 2jzgte 440cc /550cc injectors
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Sat, 24 January 2004 06:56
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Thanks manny your a top bloke!!
i thought ther would be more demand for the 550cc ... lik for the extra bucks .. id go 550cc over 440 .. anyday .. even if your not making the horsepower .. good to have reserve fuel incase of later mods ..
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Sydney
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May 2002
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Re: 2jzgte 440cc /550cc injectors
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Sat, 24 January 2004 11:02
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The stock 360s do have a bit of life in them - on standard rail pressure, mine topped out at about 245rwkw.
On standard rail pressures, the 440s lasted me up to about 270rwkw before they topped out.
On 20 psi, my 550s are reaching over 90% duty cycle at about 300rwkw, again on standard rail pressure.
Obviously raising rail pressure above 3 bar will stretch the limits of each set, but that's not my way of doing things, especially with the higher risk of leaking and engine fires with side feed injectors.
The 440s are an ideal upgrade even with just mild mods and boost, giving very good off boost throttle response - only caveat is the need for a piggyback like a SAFC to trim fuelling in open loop. In closed loop, the stock ECU does an admirable job of adjusting mixtures with it's continuous self-learn capabilities.
The only drawback with the 550s is wiring in resistors inline to match the impedance of the 360s and 440s to run on standard injectors drivers - obviously not a problem for a full blown aftermarket ECU.
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perth WA
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Re: 2jzgte 440cc /550cc injectors
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Sat, 24 January 2004 11:36
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Thank u manny for that delightful information .. so there u go .. .. im running a haltech e6k so i dont need to worry about resistor packs ( i think) . just need to retune the ecu .. as for power that sounds about right ..440cc i heard is 314 rwhp b4 they r not suitable .. and as for 550cc its perfect for my setup ..
my goal is 300rwkw ( 400rwhp) .. dunno if i will get it ..
please manny list the mods you have done to accheive 300rwkw .. so i can also acheive my goal ..
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perth WA
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Re: 2jzgte 440cc /550cc injectors
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Sat, 24 January 2004 11:41
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ALSO another one manny or someone else may enlighten me/us about is .. these are side feed injectors .. will they fit in fuel rails of sr20 or rb25 ??
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Melbourne
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January 2004
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Re: 2jzgte 440cc /550cc injectors
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Mon, 26 January 2004 02:39
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I know that the 440/550 do fit in an sr/rb motors all the require are collars i believe, im interested in the 550cc as i would either use them in my sr20 or my mates 1jz, wat price are u looking for lol?
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Melbourne
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January 2004
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Re: 2jzgte 440cc /550cc injectors
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Mon, 26 January 2004 03:14
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WELL I HAVE LOOKED IT UP AND IF THEY ARE THE SAME AS 13BREW SIDE FEED INJECTORS THEY WILL REQUIRE A METAL COLLAR TO FIT IN THE RAIL
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perth WA
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January 2003
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Re: 2jzgte 440cc /550cc injectors
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Mon, 26 January 2004 03:16
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ahh .. they do look different .. also what 1jz does the ones in the pics come from .. my 1jz 380cc are yellow .. ( i have 3 sets of stockers )
2jz jap spec are grey and
US/UK 550cc are voilet/pinky purple .
prices are as follows
380cc stock 1jz $80 set
440cc jap spec 2jz $350 posted within aust (perfect 1jz upgrade)
550cc US spec 2jz $500 posted , perfect upgrade for (1j.2jz)
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perth WA
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January 2003
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Re: 2jzgte 440cc /550cc injectors
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Mon, 26 January 2004 03:19
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380/440cc inj look same as the ones in the above pic .. but diffent colours .. i have yet to recieve 550cc but they r direct bolt in for 1jz/2jz rail so id same they same looking too
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Re: 2jzgte 440cc /550cc injectors
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Mon, 26 January 2004 03:47
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WELL ILL BE DEAD INTERSTED IN THE 550'S HAVE YOU GOT THEM YET? IF YOU DO CAN YOU EMAIL ME BACK AS I WILL MOST PROBEBLY BUY THEM OF YA, WILL THEY HANDLE 300+ AT THE WHEELS ON A 1JZ?
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perth WA
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January 2003
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Re: 2jzgte 440cc /550cc injectors
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Mon, 26 January 2004 07:41
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Dude the 440cc will handle over 300 rwhp .. ( not much more )
550cc will handle over 400 rwhp !! but u will need aftermarket ecu !! also .. i havent got em yet the have just left USA so i should have em in 2 weeks time !!! first in best dressed !!!
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Melbourne
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Tue, 27 January 2004 01:39
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im talking about rwkw if we can spin 320rwkw or close to it they should be fine, hopefully, going a big singgle and wolf v4 so driving the injectors will be no prob.
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perth WA
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January 2003
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Re: 2jzgte 440cc /550cc injectors
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Tue, 27 January 2004 01:53
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ahh 320 rwkw .. well im hopefully be similar power to that will same inj .. i cant do the calculations on exact kw rating they will flow to .. but i know manny with the soarer a few posts above has made over 300rwkw with same injectors .. so basically i can garrentee it will flow 300rwkw .. what turbo r u using for 320rwkw ??
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Melbourne
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January 2004
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Re: 2jzgte 440cc /550cc injectors
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Tue, 27 January 2004 03:01
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well on the compressor map we have found a US spec GT40 non-ballbearing 50 trim with a 58 a/r front cover and a .94 a/r exhaust hosing and 73trim wheel fits the map absolutly perfect droping to the lowest effeciency 68% at 3500rpm and then map points all stay within the center island which is 78 % should be a really effecient turbo. The problem is that it is not ball bearing and spool up time will be around the 4000rpm mark, not good for an auto, so its wither that or a gt30 700hp roller with a .82 on the back should bring similar figures. i would luv for that specific GT40 wheel to come in ball bearing but it is only available in standard bearing.
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perth WA
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January 2003
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Re: 2jzgte 440cc /550cc injectors
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Tue, 27 January 2004 03:13
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dunno that much about turbos but sounds lik u have done some reserch .. this is all on a 1jz right??
this is the turbo im running look for part number SB8006A
http://www.turbofast.com.au/GTseries.html
im pretty sure 550cc inj are good for over 100hp per inj ..
so 600hp at eng they should flow !!
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Melbourne
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January 2004
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Re: 2jzgte 440cc /550cc injectors
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Tue, 27 January 2004 07:14
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ur turbo is rated at 550hp GT30 if you go the bigger exhasut housing which is the 1.06 a/r it will enable you to flow another 50hp out of it but will be lagier, u should get around the 300rwkw @ 1.2bar-1.5bar pretty easily, how are you finding it? what rpm do u hit peak boost? does it lag much? coz the reason i dont wanna go for the GT40 is it is lagier due to not being a ball bearing.
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perth WA
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January 2003
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Re: 2jzgte 440cc /550cc injectors
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Tue, 27 January 2004 07:39
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its ok .. only running 1bar at gay ingnition timing (9deg btdc) got 281 rwhp . full 1 bar is by 4000 rpm .. but starts making 1 psi about 2200 rpm .. the turbo is only just at lower of the eff range so when i run 20psi that should fix it .. and 15 deg ing timing .... i know the bigger ex wheel will gve me more power but im looking for a nice street drivable car .. its all in a hilux 2wd so u know u dont want too much of an animal .. esp cause i use it to get to and from motorcross .
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Melbourne
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January 2004
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Re: 2jzgte 440cc /550cc injectors
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Tue, 27 January 2004 08:39
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SHWEET, im making 284hp aswell out of my hilux but at 18psi coz i went for a shit house sr20 lol, (had it at home and decided to use it) i dont hit full boost till around 4500, and i only have a 2000rpm stall so i get chopped by standard barina's of the mark lol but when i hit boost shit hits the fan, i need to get a convertor coz i went 14.1 @109.5mph so if i can get out of the hole the mph shows 12.2's ill be happy with a 13.5 i sent u an email the other day rememba?
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perth WA
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January 2003
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Re: 2jzgte 440cc /550cc injectors
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Thu, 29 January 2004 05:28
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should be getting 550cc in about 2 - 3 weeks .. when i get them its first in bested dressed .. or ill hold them for serious buyers ( eg deposit ) also the old 550cc 13bt inj sell for about 60-80 bucks each now .. and they r way more common as 2jz 550. plus 13bt dont just drop right in !!
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Melbourne
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January 2004
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Re: 2jzgte 440cc /550cc injectors
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Thu, 29 January 2004 06:30
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Dude how much deposit do u want for the 550's?
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perth WA
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January 2003
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Re: 2jzgte 440cc /550cc injectors
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Thu, 29 January 2004 07:04
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PM me or even better email . bad180sx@hotmail.com
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sydney
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November 2003
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Re: 2jzgte 440cc /550cc injectors
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Mon, 16 February 2004 03:14
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question: are 2jz injectors side or end feed?
Brad
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perth WA
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Re: 2jzgte 440cc /550cc injectors
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Tue, 24 February 2004 10:35
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these injectors are still avail .. i have now got the US 2jzgte 550cc and are ready for sale now .. they have been flow tested .. the 440cc are still in my car running with no probs so .. 1st in best dressed..
2jzgte 440cc (jap spec) high impedence side feed direct bolt in for 1jzgte /2jzgte $350 set of 6
2jzgte 550cc (US/UK spec) low impedence side feed direct bolt in for 1jzgte /2jzgte $500 set of 6
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I supported Toymods
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Re: 2jzgte 440cc /550cc injectors
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Tue, 24 February 2004 11:45
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if 1 is high impedence and 1 is low impedence, they cant both be direct bolt ins for a 1jz
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perth WA
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Re: 2jzgte 440cc /550cc injectors
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Tue, 24 February 2004 12:03
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u should know better than that !!
both set physically bolt in .. no fuel rail mods !!!
the impedance is goin to affect only the managment !!
if u have a aftermarket ecu then it will run either injectors but if u have stock ecu then only the 440cc high impedance will work .. without mods .. ( u can run a resistor pack with the 550cc inj and stock ecu )
BUT !! anyone that is goin to be using these size injectors would surely be running aftermarket ecu ( or would be damm good idea )
finding big side feed injectors is hard without spending heaps cheapest i found 550cc sards for was $198 each ( total $1200)
but i beleive that someone on here has a set for $750 .. which is very cheap .. i seen a 2nd hand set for $650 .
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Rocklea qld
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February 2003
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Re: 2jzgte 440cc /550cc injectors
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Tue, 24 February 2004 12:06
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do u still have the 380cc injecters. Will they fit a 18rgeu fuel rail. What about the lpugs for them as i think my ones would be different on my wiring.
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perth WA
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January 2003
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Re: 2jzgte 440cc /550cc injectors
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Tue, 24 February 2004 12:18
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yes i do have the stock 380cc .. actually got 2 full sets .. no idea if they will fit your eng .. ( fuel rail ) .. sorry i dont have any spare plugs but .. they look the same as the injectors that are a few posts up .. but are yellow in colour .. $80 bux for a set of 6 ..
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I supported Toymods
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Re: 2jzgte 440cc /550cc injectors
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Tue, 24 February 2004 12:24
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that's what I was getting at - just so people know a few simple mods will have to be done with the low impedence
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perth WA
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Re: 2jzgte 440cc /550cc injectors
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Tue, 24 February 2004 12:32
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yeah .. sorta .. if u need 550cc injectors ur goin to be making a heap of power and 99% of ppl making that sorta power aint using stock ecu !! so . if u have aftermarket ecu then it will run either set no probs!!
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November 2002
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Re: 2jzgte 440cc /550cc injectors
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Wed, 25 February 2004 13:22
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ahh .. they do look different .. also what 1jz does the ones in the pics come from .. my 1jz 380cc are yellow .. ( i have 3 sets of stockers )
2jz jap spec are grey and
US/UK 550cc are voilet/pinky purple .
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The ones in the picture I believe are/were aftermarket ones for sale on his website, http://www.importbitz.com.au
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Re: 2jzgte 440cc /550cc injectors
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Thu, 26 February 2004 01:37
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i'll take a set of 380cc injectors off your hands, $80? do they work or have they been flow tested?
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perth WA
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January 2003
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Re: 2jzgte 440cc /550cc injectors
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Thu, 04 March 2004 09:41
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440cc sold !!!
just got 550cc back from being flow tested .. they flowed 600cc at 3bar .. still for sale !!! $500 set of 6 inc post within australia
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Brissy
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December 2002
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Re: 2jzgte 440cc /550cc injectors
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Sat, 06 March 2004 06:06
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are they still available
Roland
and any idea what hp they are good for
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perth WA
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January 2003
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Re: 2jzgte 440cc /550cc injectors
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Sat, 06 March 2004 09:35
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i have sold the 440cc inj
the 550 are sold but yet to be paid for , pretty much sold !!!
380cc stockers 2sets ( not flow tested but out of a running engine) .. ppl promised to buy .. so pretty much sold .. i will repost in a few days on updates
550cc inj , i got em flow tested and they flowed 600cc at 3bar (45psi ) which is good for 450 or so rwhp ..
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Location:
perth WA
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January 2003
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Sydney
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April 2003
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Re: 2jzgte 440cc /550cc injectors
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Wed, 10 March 2004 09:05
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i'll take the set of stock injectors, next tuesday, i think its the 15th.
the ones out of the running engine.
pm us you mobile number and i'll give you a call.
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