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1uzfe - RA28 celica
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Wed, 04 February 2004 10:03
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Now i know its not a easy swap, infact its not even in the hard swap's, its prob very hard
Has anyone done it? I will leave it auto, need new diff, etc
main worries are
room in engine bay
steering
height of engine
will handle like a dog but its not for race more just because i was a V8 and i need a toyota... (missing the 3tgt Ta22)
idea's (it would be a long term thing)
I dont want to atempt it if its very very hard and requires all sorts of mods to change steering etc
how does the sump / x-member configure? (custom i guess)
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May 2002
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Re: 1uzfe - RA28 celica
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Wed, 04 February 2004 10:14
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It will physically fit, I know that because Jamie has put one in his TA22 (smaller engine bay) and managed to squeeze a couple of turbos in as well! You will need to convert to rack and pinion steering though, which is a pretty big job in itself. Sump location isn't a big drama because you can always swap to a TA23 crossmember (flipped version of RA23/28) if you need to.
As for handling, you'll find the all-alloy 1UZ-FE isn't much heavier than an 18R-C...
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Re: 1uzfe - RA28 celica
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Wed, 04 February 2004 10:31
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the rack and pinion although great once in is a pain job seen a mate go through it and ahhhh
do you know how hard it is to get around it? is it a matter of finding what fits or cstom work?
this was my biggest worry
other wise it looks like a goer
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October 2003
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Re: 1uzfe - RA28 celica
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Wed, 04 February 2004 12:41
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quick quesion, how much is one worthe with loom, comp, n' box?
auto only yeah?
Sounds interesting, just a tip, i find if i need to make somethring fit, ie rack and pinion, go to a self serve wreckers like pika part and just look at evety single type of car until you see one that could be a good canditate for a conversion..
at a guess how would a gemini rack go? similar size etc?
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May 2002
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Re: 1uzfe - RA28 celica
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Wed, 04 February 2004 14:01
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R&P conversion for RA2x Celicas was covered in detail recently on these forums. You should be able to find the thread pretty easily if you take the time to search.
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May 2002
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Re: 1uzfe - RA28 celica
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Wed, 04 February 2004 21:34
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u might be able to get away without having to do a R&P conversion.
there is a model of 1UZ that has exhaust manifolds tucked away which might give u enuff room to play with (gianttomato should be able to tell u which 1UZ it is).
ive seen a 308 in a RA23 that didnt need a rack conversion and this fellow was running extractors on it as well. it was a close call but it worked.
grab ya tape measure and go have a look at the importers, it might save the hassle of doing R&P.
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Re: 1uzfe - RA28 celica
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Wed, 04 February 2004 22:02
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crown 1uzfe is best to use
it has very tight shitty exhaust manifolds
soarer has the big ones
when fittin 1uzfe to a hilux u have to use crown exhaust manifold
as it just misses the steering rod that goes to steering box
and the alternator just misses the drivers rail
the crown 1uz also has the good box
meanin the auto gbox has a normal tailshaft slip on extension housing
where as the lexus 1uzfe has a big rubber thingy bolted to the end of it
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Re: 1uzfe - RA28 celica
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Wed, 04 February 2004 22:56
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Iv seen a few with V8's from 253's 308's etc, they look tuff sound tuff.... but there not toyota, there heavy and use fuel and run like crap 
hence the 1uzfe option.
The crown 1uzfe is the low output motor? 185Kw - $2,695 (crown)
is the soarer 208Kw?
getting away without the R&P would make life easyer
still i better keep saving its going to cost a lot
how would that beast auto go fitting in to the trans tunel
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Re: 1uzfe - RA28 celica
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Wed, 04 February 2004 23:06
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i dont think the hp difference is that great
dont quote me on it but its more like colser to 190
ive been told
i think the soarer is slightly greater
i have an auto here out of a crown if u want measurements
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July 2002
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Re: 1uzfe - RA28 celica
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Wed, 04 February 2004 23:28
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| sideshow wrote on Thu, 05 February 2004 09:02 |
crown 1uzfe is best to use
it has very tight shitty exhaust manifolds
soarer has the big ones
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I actually had to swap my crown ones for curvy soarer ones as it actually curves AROUND the steering shaft. While also being shorter log style with very short (1cm) runners.
Also the crown ones come out further from the block so makes the engine wider.
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Re: 1uzfe - RA28 celica
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Thu, 05 February 2004 00:17
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i guess the mid sump is out of the question, rear sump would hit steering??
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Re: 1uzfe - RA28 celica
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Thu, 05 February 2004 00:23
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Not necessarily.
Rear Sump would hit the steering. I modded the rear section of the mid-sump 1G-GTE sump which I have fitted to a 1G-GZE engine for my RA23 to clear the steering link arm.
Front sump *may* have clearance issues with your sway bar. Its a case of searching, going to wreckers and measuring up.
I'm also *fairly* sure the 1UZ has either vertical or horizonatal engine mounts so its not a hard job to modify your crossmember to suit.
But no more guessing from me. I while let the experts chime in now.
Mitch.
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Re: 1uzfe - RA28 celica
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Thu, 05 February 2004 00:49
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| ra23celica wrote on Thu, 05 February 2004 07:34 |
Front sump: LS400, Crown Majesta, Aristo
Midsump: Crown Royal Saloon (by far the most common one)
Rear sump: Soarer
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Crown royal saloon/Crown (UZS131): middle mount sump, clutch fan, A341E, have seperate ECUs for engine and trans management.
Crown majesta (UZS141): middle mount sump,A340E has integrated engine and trans ECU same as SC400 and same exhaust headers as the SC400. It is the sports version of the crowns, like ss commodores.
Front mount sump then the LS400 or Celsior is the one you want
Rear is definately Soarer/SC400 tho.
As for mounts, I'm pretty sure that the Crown motor I have has mounts that are flat. ie, all bolts are on the same plane, both sides, and they are in a square too, so it should be easy to make up new mounts.
Front sump is short, and wide.
Just for comparison, the 5mge front sump (and I presume the 1ggte front too) has only a small gap between the sway bar, and the xmember, but the uz front sump will stop a good 3-4 inches from the sway bar, but it sticks out about 2-3 inches either side of the block
I think the rear sump is in the same boat with the sticking outside the motor thing
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Re: 1uzfe - RA28 celica
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Thu, 05 February 2004 01:11
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search for about a hour but never found the 1uzfe in a RA28 thread, lots of other stuff though
Looks like the front sump is the way to go? being the hardest and most expencive no doubt.
The TA x-member was good for front sumps, the RA was good for rear sumps, the TA23 would be good for a front sump 1uzfe? in a RA28. then custom mount points.
this may clear the steering and hence no R&P??
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Re: 1uzfe - RA28 celica
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Thu, 05 February 2004 01:22
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Later model Crown Majesta's do indeed have a front sump, this is the UZS151 model. Unfortunately I can't comment on the UZS141 as the infinetly buggy Toyota EPC program won't open it...
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Re: 1uzfe - RA28 celica
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Thu, 05 February 2004 05:23
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The TA23 crossmember and front-sump 1UZ would be the simplest approach, but the problem with the steering is the steering box, which is likely to foul the engine (1UZ's are pretty wide) and will almost certainly foul the exhaust. That's why a R&P conversion is probably necessary, although I haven't actually got the measuring tape out so I can't say for sure!
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Re: 1uzfe - RA28 celica
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Thu, 05 February 2004 05:27
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would one fit in a mk2  
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Re: 1uzfe - RA28 celica
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Thu, 05 February 2004 05:30
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Most likely, have you already changed to R+P?
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Re: 1uzfe - RA28 celica
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Thu, 05 February 2004 05:31
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It definitely fits once you get rid of the steering box. GT has the low-down on what's required.
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Re: 1uzfe - RA28 celica
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Thu, 05 February 2004 05:39
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ohhhh really 
Nah i just paid $500 to get my sttering box full recond 
but id like R+P but i would have to find an engineering place to do it  anyone know of any where, or could you do the conversion and then get it engineered?
1uzfte sounds nice
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Re: 1uzfe - RA28 celica
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Thu, 05 February 2004 05:49
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I know someone who got a R&P conversion done in Melbourne, they sounded like did good job. Took into account bump steer etc. Was $1000 from memory.
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Re: 1uzfe - RA28 celica
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Thu, 05 February 2004 06:04
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sounds fair enough
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Re: 1uzfe - RA28 celica
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Thu, 05 February 2004 06:44
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TurboRA28
Would be great if you could get detail on who did the conversion or link up to person who has had the conversion doen so we could get photo's specs etc.
Craig
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Re: 1uzfe - RA28 celica
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Thu, 05 February 2004 07:50
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My mate once got a excellent 1UZFE deal, 1UZ,AUto gear box, Ecu + loom, all for 1300... his name is backspace
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Re: 1uzfe - RA28 celica
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Thu, 05 February 2004 07:57
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My mate once got a excellent 1UZFE deal, 1UZ,AUto gear box, Ecu + loom, all for 1300... his name is backspace
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As good as that is, I paid a little over half that for all that besides ECU
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Re: 1uzfe - RA28 celica
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Thu, 05 February 2004 08:02
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hey cruzida...hows the porno set grafted to the seats of your car going?
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I supported Toymods
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Re: 1uzfe - RA28 celica
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Thu, 05 February 2004 08:06
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Car is in the garage getting something grafted elsewhere.
Call it Car-Porn if you will
She's NEKKID
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melbourne
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Re: 1uzfe - RA28 celica
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Thu, 05 February 2004 08:16
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ha ha ha, gives ladies the OrGaSmIc eXpErIeNcE . . .
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