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RA25 GT2000 (1973 model)
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Tue, 22 June 2004 00:43
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Hi,
Went to my first Toymods meeting last night and there was a bit of interest in regards to the old girl, which is an RA25 GT2000.
I've sent the pics to Rod who will put them on the site for me.
However, if you have access to classic-celica.com, there are pics on that site in the JDM gallery, in the "Australian RA25 GT2000" folder.
Here's a bit of history if you're interested....
The car is a late 1973 build and was imported into Australia by AMI (Australian Motor Industries) for GT Celica evaluation (also they brought in a 2TG Corolla Levine and a GT1600 TA22). The eval stated the performance of the car with no side intrusion bars and no inertia seatbelts it would be wiser to not import such cars. Such a shame, 'cos if there were a few more around then I'd be able to get parts more easily - especially body panels, bonnet and rear-light assembly. The interior is TA22, except for the overheaed warning lights for fuel, brakes and washer fluid.
Modern Motor (I think) did an article on it in the Jan or Feb 1974 magazine. I got a reprint of it somewhere, but can't find it, so I'm going to have to chase up the mag to get another one. The car manual, which unfortunately is a photocopy, is all in Japanese.
The car was then put onto a few road shows, which AMI used to do. I'm not sure why they do that, except to say and show people "see this car - weren't not importing it!".
Anyway, the car (along with the TA22 GT and the Levine) were put into storage for a few years and in 1982 were released for sale - along with papers for compliance (the car has no Aussie comp plate).
I traded in my LT TA22 for it in July 1982. It had 15,000k on the dial and, except for the wheels, was fully original specs. For interest, the Levine (deep green) was on sale for over $10,000, the TA22 (bright red) was $7,500 and the RA25 was $9,000. All three cars were in mint and original form with low kays. I got $4,500 for my LT, so the RA25 (rusty-burgundy-red)wasn't too expensive.
I thought it was a 1977 liftback - 'cos I didn't know much about Celicas then and I liked the Mustang shape. It was a few years later when I found out that it was a 1973 and something different - so I decided to keep it. Glad I did.
It's now got 130,000k on the dial, and got a full respray (original colour) and engine rebuild (18RG - solex carbies) in 1989 when it had 100,000k on the clock. So, she's only done 30,000 in the last 15 years. I shod some 14inch wheels on it 'cos the non-standard 13inchers that came with the car were pretty crappy. Other than that, she's still the same car.
She's got a P51 5-speed gearbox, split tail shaft, air conditioning, power windows and the F-series LSD - all standard with the GT model.
I'm hoping my calender is clear so I can take it to the Dynoday in July. She won't be dyno'd 'cos she's too old for that thing now and she just likes to cruise and look cool - which suits an old fart like me. I'll bring her to the next monthly meeting - so I better get to polishing and making her look sweet.
seeyuzz
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Location: Sutho/Hills NSW
Registered: September 2002
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Re: RA25 GT2000 (1973 model)
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Tue, 22 June 2004 01:14
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gday river, welcome to the club.
Very fine piece of machinery you have indeed and i am still eyeing off those badges
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Re: RA25 GT2000 (1973 model)
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Tue, 22 June 2004 01:18
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once again i have to say your car is brilliant.
I will be able to look for those pics of the green RA25 that was entered into targa tas 2000 (maybe 2001), on wednesday arvo which will be the next time im on my home PC.
ill email the pics.
have a good one...
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Re: RA25 GT2000 (1973 model)
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Tue, 22 June 2004 01:23
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this woulndnt happen to be it would it
looks great!
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Location: Land of Oz
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Re: RA25 GT2000 (1973 model)
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Tue, 22 June 2004 05:02
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Hi,
Yep. That's her!
The first pic was from Mike, the kiwi who has the TA27. He was on a Celica photographic expedition a few months ago and called in to check it out. The other pics I did about a year ago.
EvilJack - If my badges go missing, I'm coming after you And, did you get your engine going last night? As you work local, if you bring it to work lemme know and I might mosey on over and have a look. Also, I've never had it parked next to an RA28 - it'll be interesting to see the differences between the models.
Rob - yes please, love to see the green RA25 from Targa.
seeyuzz
river
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Club President I supported Toymods
Location: Sydney
Registered: May 2002
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Re: RA25 GT2000 (1973 model)
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Tue, 22 June 2004 08:35
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River,
Was really great to see you at the meeting last night mate. I'm just glad I didn't know you were there till after the meeting started..... Otherwise we may have never got it under way.
I have put a folder up online of the pics of your car. You can find the ones you sent me here:
http://www.toymods.org.au/~rod/Celicas/River's%20R A25/
I see Graig has a couple of them up already
Did I mention to call me if you ever decide to sell it ? Just give me time to sell my mum to pay for it
Heres thepic of the Build plate anyway, just so people know what all the fuss was about
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Location: Gold Coast
Registered: October 2002
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Re: RA25 GT2000 (1973 model)
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Tue, 22 June 2004 10:04
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Nick at the celica shop in Queensland has one of these. It seems to be a ta22 front half (shorter engine bay ta22 instruments etc) with 23 style panels and bumper and 28 rear end. I want one. May i have yours river?
Daniel
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Location: Land of Oz
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Re: RA25 GT2000 (1973 model)
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Tue, 22 June 2004 10:28
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Hi,
munki wrote on Tue, 22 June 2004 20:04 | May i have yours river?
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Hehehe, you'll probably be fighting Rod and a few others for it
I can't wait for Nick to get his going. Hey, I'll even drive the old girl to Brissy just so we can get a rare photoshhot of the two old girls.
seeyuzz
river
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Location: Sutho/Hills NSW
Registered: September 2002
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Re: RA25 GT2000 (1973 model)
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Wed, 23 June 2004 06:06
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river, yes i got it going it will be at next meeting for sure.
If you want to have a look i have my lunch around 12-12:30
contact me on 0421 328 785
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Location: Ballarat, Victoria
Registered: March 2003
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Re: RA25 GT2000 (1973 model)
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Wed, 23 June 2004 09:37
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thats dead sexy
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Location: Melbourne
Registered: January 2003
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Re: RA25 GT2000 (1973 model)
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Wed, 23 June 2004 10:03
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That is a very nice example of one of those , very nice indeed
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Location: c'town, NSW
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Re: RA25 GT2000 (1973 model)
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Wed, 23 June 2004 12:11
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check your email River.
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Location: Northwestern Sydney
Registered: August 2002
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Re: RA25 GT2000 (1973 model)
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Wed, 23 June 2004 14:36
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River,
For crying out loud if you do decide to sell post it on here.
Rod,
You'll be fighting me to get it. I'd swap the Ute in a Heartbeat for it.
Oh and Drooooooollllll......
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Location: Potts Point, Sydney
Registered: October 2003
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Re: RA25 GT2000 (1973 model)
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Tue, 29 June 2004 11:50
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Very nice car man
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Location: Adelaide
Registered: June 2003
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Re: RA25 GT2000 (1973 model)
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Thu, 26 August 2004 13:53
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Hey, Nice little collectable that one.
I picked up one of those front grills in a wrecker the other day (minus badge) for $30, I don't think they knew what it was
I found a copy of that Modern Motor magazine if you're interested I may be able to run off a copy.
It was January 1974, pages 16-17, 18, 115.
In the same magazine there was a nice shot of a TA22 racer in a Japan CAR show.
Anyway, great catch man.
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Location: Land of Oz
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Re: RA25 GT2000 (1973 model)
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Thu, 26 August 2004 21:43
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Hi,
Steve M wrote on Thu, 26 August 2004 23:53 | Hey, Nice little collectable that one.
I picked up one of those front grills in a wrecker the other day (minus badge) for $30, I don't think they knew what it was
I found a copy of that Modern Motor magazine if you're interested I may be able to run off a copy.
It was January 1974, pages 16-17, 18, 115.
In the same magazine there was a nice shot of a TA22 racer in a Japan CAR show.
Anyway, great catch man.
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Yes please, love to have a scan of the article. I'll put it with all the other stuff - log books, repairs bills, maintenance and other stuff I have for the car.
Oh, and keep that grille in good nick - I may need to buy it off you one day
seeyuzz
river
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Location: Melbourne, Victoria, Aust...
Registered: September 2004
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Re: RA25 GT2000 (1973 model)
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Fri, 03 September 2004 03:57
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A fantastic car! Old JDM cars are that bit more special than our Aussie models IMHO. And they usually have an interesting history.
I would love a RT112 or RT114 Corona coupe! Anyone know of one in Oz?
Did you realize there was a JDM RT104 Corona GT 2000 bought in by AMI about the same time as well!?! This car still exists in Victoria.
It looks the same as a local RT104 sedan except for the badges, but has a better dash and interior and the same drivetrain as your GT Celica. It was in Modern Motor June 1974. I have the magazine at home.
Try eBay for the Modern Motor that featured your car. Old MM seem to turn up quite often.
Cheers,
Brett.
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Location: Western Victoria
Registered: September 2004
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Re: RA25 GT2000 (1973 model)
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Wed, 08 September 2004 04:49
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Last time I saw that Celica GT was at the Melbourne Showgrounds at the end of the 1978 Repco rally. I am sure it was in private hands at that stage as both it and the GT Corona stablemate were coaxed out of AMI, who saw them as a diversion from the perceived market. I was thrown the keys to mine and told to keep it out of sight..I think the Celica GT it was owned by an official of the LCCA who came up and introduced himself. The story behind the GT was that Bill Owbridge CEO of AMI gave it to his wife to drive but the LSD was a handful and she used to do 180's when turning the corner at the lights. Like its stable mate the GT104 Corona (yuk I hate that name) both cars were 200k capable and the Toyota Heads allowed a high comp ratio of 9.7:1.
Mine got out because Steve Baird, (Wes Nalder Stawell Toyota and Noel Richards HDT manager)'s rally mechanic traded it in on a Sandman!!! I heard it was coming down to Melbourne so I went out to the Holden Dealers in Sydney road and signed the contract of sale for $3900 sight unseen. When the sales rep came to Melbourne they spewed and tried to wheezle out of the sale but I stuck it out, even was cheeky enough to ask for a full tank of fuel.
My old classic has TRD headers and the original BWA Wheels ex Italy/EU Toyota weighing just 5kg each. If I parked outside AMI in Elizabeth street I was asked to take it out of sight please, we dont want to answer questions as to why we don't import these gt's. All my spares came from Peter and Erin Malone's Toyota Port Vila, New Hebrides and I still have gears, timing chains, valves, and head gaskets that I brought back by air. In Vila and Noumea you could drive around in 2TGT celicas in those days (1979)...In 1995.. I got my carbies rebuilt by Shaun Maloney in Melbourne (03) 9428 5277 for $395.00. In return I gave him a complete set of four types of valve shims... The car has 242,000 km still on original engine but topped. Comps are 175, one is 155 and a bit wheezy. It hates the recent fuels and it is up on blocks since 1995 in statsis. I may donate it to Nagoya who don't have one. Isn't it nice to reminiss and the stories grow like reg Hunts fishing tales. Mine had a full page centre spread in Modern Motor 1974 June Volume 21 no 1 and shares the pages with BMW 3.2's and jensen Interceptors gasp shock horro, oh and the 4 cylinder Torana. . http://members.datafast.net.au/~sg4/CORONAGT.htm
Both the Celica GT and my Corona ran at the Golden Mile one tree hill Hill-Climb at Ararat in 1976 just before I bought it in December 1976.
I have some slides of the GT and will be able to get the original plate number which i think was LUO830 in that series as the word was they just sent details of the latests acquisitions including a Toyota Corona Station wagon 19784 model down to Port melbourne Police station. None of the cars had compliance plates.. Mine still does not have an ADR plate fitted and I still show the original number plates LUO833.
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Wed, 08 September 2004 05:39
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RT104GT wrote on Wed, 08 September 2004 15:05 | There is a white liftback RT114 down at the...
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RT114 liftback or hardtop/coupe? I thought the RT114 only came as a coupe?
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Location: Western Victoria
Registered: September 2004
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Re: RA25 GT2000 (1973 model)
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Sun, 12 September 2004 22:14
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Sorry wrong model its a 2000 liftback with square headlights and 18RG engine after market. To the best of my knowledge there were only two genuine twin cams 2 lite cars brought in by AMI the RA25 and my RT104 both genuine factory GT's. Some carp about tariff protection and how mthey could bring in 25 domestic models and only 10 GT's and money is money, besides they made the abitrary decision that Australian people would not take to twin cam GT's that did 125 mph.
Speed was unpopular after the 1970's thats why they canned the Phase 5 GT falcon and dropped v8 engines.
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Location: Land of Oz
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Re: RA25 GT2000 (1973 model)
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Mon, 13 September 2004 12:39
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Hi,
Nice old car. I checked out your site. You should put the original Jap-spec fender mirrors back on it. I'm sourcing some mirrors so I can get them put back onto my old girl.
Keep it going. There's nothing like having and driving a true GT classic. Also, despite what some say, the old 210-head 9.7-1 18RG engine was the best and most powerful, and, from what I have been finding out, quite rare also.
seeyuzz
river
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Re: RA25 GT2000 (1973 model)
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Mon, 13 September 2004 23:24
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PS where are your original GT Steel wheels???
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Location: Land of Oz
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Re: RA25 GT2000 (1973 model)
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Tue, 14 September 2004 12:20
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Hi,
Wow, there's a bit of history there!
When I got the car it had those 13inch "kidney" mags on it. I upgraded them to 14inch "Bathursts", as per the pics in this forum. I've now got a set of 15x6 Soarer wheels, which are currently being polished and painted. I'll be throwing on some 215/60 at the rear and 205/65 at the front.
I don't know what happened to the original mags, but they are the same that came with the T18, so I'm going to get a set of these for Shows when the car needs to be original spec.
Bad news about my gearbox. It's losing synchro on 3rd gear (on the down change). There was a recon P51 in Sydney, but I had to get the steering fixed and by the time that was done (2 weeks), someone snapped up the box.
Anyway, I've gotten onto Toyota (Castle Hill) and there's a guy there in their spares dept who knows about the more exotic JDM vehicles and he can source some parts and says he has some contacts who can assist. I'll be seeing him tomorrow for an update. Worse comes to worse, I'll throw a W50 into the car and keep the P51 as an original component - and always keep my ears and eyes out for a spare recon P51 or, as I get the synchro parts, get it fixed and put back in the car.
Today I finally bit the bullet and got a new sound system. The old system was totally stuffed. It was just a radio-cass, and 12 years ago the water heater blew a hose and spewed into the radio. After that all I could get was AM (no FM and cass stuffed)- which was great while the cricket was on, but not much good for anything else. Anyway, got new CD-radio (under dash mounted) and new front speakers and the power aerial (which was stuffed for the past 8 years) replaced. Only prob is the rear speakers need replacing. I found this out tonight when I played some CDs and all I got from the rear speakers was distortion. But, hey, they're 22 years old!!!
Now I got a big hole where the radio in the dash once was. I admit my folly, when I was younger and bought the car, to making the dash hole big enough to take a new radio. Damn unhappy about it now. I still got the original radio for the car - I just got to do some fancy worked to fit it again without seeing gaps and holes. In the interim I was thinking about putting a black plastic blanking panel over the hole and getting the "Celica" (chrome one, running script, as per side badge on the car) mounted on it.
I'm not sure what the NSW laws are regarding fender mirrors, but I guess I'll find out once they're installed (when I get a set). But, I think bullbars and large 4WD are more lethal than my little car and its small fender mirrors. I got the chrome blanking plugs on the car, so if it is a big issue, I'll only put the fender mirrors on for Shows. However, I will be removing the XB-Falcon-type door mirror 'cos it would look dicky to have this mirror and the fender mirrors on at the same time. When the XB mirror is removed I will be metal filling the holes and it won't be fitted again - so I hope the fender mirrors can stay.
I don't think I'm ready to donate my car to a museum.... yet. Mind you, I always wondered if Toyota themselves would be interested in borrowing (it is an interesting part of their history) it for shows, demos and other things like that. If so, I think I'd let them use it for such things. However, I feel certain that if I donated the car to an organisation or museum, then there'd be at least 2 people I know in this forum that would probably kill me.
seeyuzz
river
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Location: Western Victoria
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Tue, 14 September 2004 20:30
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There are any number of modified celica LT 2000's fitted with imported Twin Cam 2T's 3T's 18RG engines, the conversions have been going on for 25 years since the 1st twin cams came into Australia. There is only 1 maybe 2 GT 2000 genuine and one RT104GT. If you modify the car too far from its original you have to ask for what purpose. if you want a fast car fit a 3TGTE to a second hand Celica..
I have a modified 280ZX with that type of set up and to drive it interstate is a pain in the ass. It twiches all overt the highway with its 225x50 series rubber and in the trenches on the Hume left by the semi's in the wet it aqua planes even with new tyres and it dangerous.
TO LOOK AT 104,000 genuine k's one owner books since sale in March 1979.
My advice if you want a driver car you can't keep it good. So I have a pristine 280ZX with 104,000 km and a 4000 km limit imposed by Shannons and a $10,000 insurance tag, BUT it has to stay in the shed as shopping trolleys, and other moronic events await it, so whats the point?
So I built a driver car for $800 to drive and enjoy and the other thing just sits in the shed making money??? Does it? Maybe. Not much point.
TO DRIVE Home brew Fairlady Z-t L20B-Turbo 2 litre engine 5 speed manual 3.5 rear end 2500 rpm equals 100 kph. Cost $800 plus paint job found in wreckers at Melton.
Your Celica according to Steve Baird is as near to original as it was ezxcept for the wheels. Our advice is leave it that way as if you stray too far from the original it wont be the same car. And remember the guys here giving advice would love to own it and rip out the engine and put in a turbo. But then with disc/drum brakes how does it stop so out goes the rear end and so the bastardisation would continue until any resemblance to the original car is long gone.
Even Steve says he wished he kept the GT104 and wished he bought yours from Weribee Toyota but instead he bought a SANDMAN PANEL VAN which is now a recycled Hyundai
Those T18 wheels you talk about are steel and genuine GT Wheels. Going 16 or 17 inch is again the fast and furious approach, looks good, pounds the crap out of the suspension designed for 175x70x14 tyres, the wheels you have now do the car justice and are from that era roughly..I dont know where you can find the original GT wheels if at all.
I have a collectors JDM Fairlady 280Zti with ANSEN wheels and one is damaged, I think the replacement price starts at about USD$1G..
I fished this car out of a river near Armidale last month, so low lifes stole and stripped it and then dropped it into the river so make sure you lock up your TOY.
Street value of 280Z Fairladies in japan range as high as 1.5 million Yen ($25,000) I saw a rusted out Austin Healey for $27000 at Bendigo and a GT lookalike Falcon for $35000 why would you bother?
I have some Datto projects on the go because there are no worthy Toyota projects. Everyone is busting to make these late TOYs go fast by adding turbos, whereas the gracious 280Z's are rusting away in sheds and paddocks for as little as $400 or in some cases freebies..
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Re: RA25 GT2000 (1973 model)
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Tue, 14 September 2004 23:00
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Hi,
You're right, except for the wheels and the hole-in-the-dash where the original JDM AM/FM radio goes, the car is original.
It has the same engine, gearbox and LSD that came with it. It has the same interior, seats, steering wheel etc as per import GT 2000.
When the steering and suspension was checked/fixed a few weeks ago, we found the shocks and springs to be in perfect working order (ie no sag in the springs and no leaks from the shocks). So, it's still got all the original suspension. The idler arm, pitman arm and tie-rods were wron and replaced by new TA22 components - 'cos the RA25 has the same underpinnings as the TA22.
The car is insured in the Classic category with Vigil Insurance. It is insured as a vehicle that is driven occasionally and not a full time car. I do not use the car as my daily drive. That's what I use my wifes car for!
Currently I am unemployed, but when (if) I ever get a job I'll be getting a few very small dings fixed and the vehicle cut back and resprayed back in its original colour - which is the same colour as you see in the pics of it in this topic. Also, I'll then be getting a cheap 2nd hand car as my daily drive - and the RA25 will be pulled out for a weekend cruise or for shows. It's only been driven a bit lately 'cos I need to take it to various places to get bits and have it serviced etc.
All I need is a dash from a wrecked TA22 and I can fix the radio hole issue and refit the old radio. Put some fender mirrors on the car and remove the door mirror and it is back to full factory original. Source the T18 wheels and I'm all done.
There are probably a few RA25 GT2000 vehicles in Japan. They come up for auction rarely, but they do pop up from time to time. I've seen a few on the Jap websites, but the Japs never reply. Dunno why - maybe it's a Jap thing?
There is another RA25 GT2000 that I know of in the USA. It's a full import. Dunno if Toymods are happy about this - but the vehicle is pictured in classic-celica.com, in the Hot Celicas Photo Gallery section, under the JDM Model category - so is my car. This car is the 1974/75 version. The early RA25 had the running script "Celica" badge on the side. Mine is a late 1973 build. During the later part of the production run the badging changed to block script. This vehicle has the block script. It also has the fender mirrors, but it needs new front and rear fenders and (I think) a few other pieces. I communicate with the guy (Rodney) a fair bit and, if possible, I try and help him out with spares. However, it appears that we are better off in regards to getting spares for these old cars than they are in the USA.
There is an RA25 ST2000 in Brisbane. This car, the last I saw and heard of it, was in poor shape. It had been painted red from nose to tail (including grille and fenders), had a sun-roof put into it and the insides gutted. The owner was going to restore it back - but not sure if that means putting in the original 18RC motor (that came with the ST variant) - or other drive train components etc.
Someone in this forum spotted a green RA25 some months ago in Western Sydney. Not sure if this was a GT or not. If this car had the same bonnet as mine, then it would have to be an RA25 'cos the RA28 bonnet is longer and you can't change the bonnets on the cars. RA25 uses the TA22 bonnet size/shape. You can fit, with some work, the 5-slot tail lights of the RA25 to an RA28.
Yes, my car is ex-AMI Melbourne. I got the paper work for road compliance (as it doesn't have a comp plate) and also a short blurb on its history - which I requested when I purchased the car (mid 1982), which mentions it was imported by AMI for evaluation.
It was used, for a time, by the director of AMI who was great friends with Laurie Stewart (Stewart Toyota). Stewart used this car as the centre-piece for the opening of his new Toyota dealership, with the promise that AMI let him have the vehicle when they no longer required it. When that occured, I was lucky enough to be driving past and saw it and bought it. The rest is history
seeyuzz
river
PS: I didn't think my fender mirrors were electrically controlled? Where would the switchs be, inside the vehicle, to control the mirrors? THere appears to be no holes or missing switchs inside the car.
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Tue, 14 September 2004 23:09
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Shane, where did you end up going for your idler arms and pitman arms?
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Re: RA25 GT2000 (1973 model)
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Tue, 14 September 2004 23:21
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Hi,
I spoke to Pretty-boy (El Presidente). He's a champion and a freak.
However, fear not my red-headed friend. I do believe the idler and pitman arms I have (which didn't fit my car) are for an RA28. You can have them for a song. I'll collect them tomorrow when I get the sway-bar fitted and you can have a look and see if they'll fit your baby.
seeyuzz
river
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Re: RA25 GT2000 (1973 model)
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Wed, 15 September 2004 01:44
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Hi,
I have a roof mounted warning light array, but it is not the same as yours. The later GT's had one similar to yours, but the earlier ones only had 3 lights - Feul, Brakes and Washer Fluid.
I just came back from Toyota and the P51 doesn't have synchros like normal boxes - instead it has these various "bands". THey can get a couple of them, but they also gave me the details of a local gearbox mob who have serviced the P51 before and have a number of spare parts. So, I'm going to call them soon and go over and see them.
YEs, I have the little night lights. My hazard switch rotates, as well as pulling it out. Pulling it out activates the hazards, as per normal. Rotating the swtich to the left activates the left side night lights, rotating it right once activates the right side night lights, rotate it again to the right activates both left and right side lights.
Do you get those wonderful chimes when you hit 110kph?
I'm glad I've encouraged you. What you got is indeed a rare vehicle. At least a number of people knew of the RA25 model, but it appears less know about the RT104. So, if I was you, I'd be sprucing the old girl up.
My roof lining was sagging so I got a new one put in. It's black (as per interior of the car) velour and its really nice, non reflective (which the vinayl can be at times - esepcially at night with headlights on behind you) and it quietens the car down a little.
So good to see another old classic still around - just get it done up and show us all the pics of your progress. One day we'll have to mee tup for a "classic GT Toyota" photo shoot.
seeyuzz
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Re: RA25 GT2000 (1973 model)
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Wed, 15 September 2004 03:07
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RT104GT wrote on Wed, 15 September 2004 10:32 |
There also is a story that once upon a time there was a two door coupe RT114 in Sydney running GT gear.
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I have seen two RT114 (non-GT) in Sydney - one was Chocolate Brown and came from South Africa as a personal import by a neighbour of my Gradmother in Taren Point. The owner moved away and I have not seen the car since.
Another time I saw a yellow RT114 in traffic on the Princes Highway at Sylvania. I alwayas wondered if this was the Brown car resprayed, as it was in the same area.
I've been thinking about getting an RT114 shipped from South Africa. But it would not be cheap to do!
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Re: RA25 GT2000 (1973 model)
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Wed, 15 September 2004 07:03
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Hi,
I got the Jap book also. All in Japanses, so it doesn't help me that much. Got nice pics - such as how to lower the back seat so you can fit your golf clubs.
My tacho goes yellow at 7000 then red from 7000 to 9000 rpm.
Now, I need some clarification on the 18RG. I've been using PULP for as long as it's been available and the engine, as mentioned in earlier posts, was dynoed and carbies overhauled a month or so ago. The engine is running perfect, and Kleinig, who is a bit of a whiz with these motors (NSW equivalent to Maloney - who I have heard of) says it's in great condition and was very pleased with the tune-up results. He said that PULP is fine with this motor 'cos it's got hardened head etc. He also said that he'd notice it during tune up if there was a problem with it - considering I been using PULP for many years - it would be badly corroded and giving many problems. So, I'm figuring the PULP is fine with this early 18RG? No UCL required?
seeyuzz
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Wed, 15 September 2004 07:09
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Yeah 96 98 RON will be fine. I think its about time I pulled my points dizzy out and put in an igniter type so if you can advise me and find me one somewhere in Sydney would be grateful.
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Wed, 15 September 2004 07:13
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Has your book got the speed curves in it on the 18RG?
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Location: Melbourne, Victoria, Aust...
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Re: RA25 GT2000 (1973 model)
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Wed, 15 September 2004 07:17
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RT104GT wrote on Wed, 15 September 2004 17:02 | Then Steve Got the 104 GT and yours came into Weribee Toyota where it stayed for years and I bought the 104 when Steve traded ona sandman.
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Werribee Toyota? That's about 1.5km from my house!
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Wed, 15 September 2004 07:42
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Hi,
In Melbourne the plates were KRH-555. It was used by Ken Hougham, the president of AMI at the time.
In SA the plates probably were SAD-555.
The vehicle was given NSW compliance on the 3rd May, 1982 - with rego plates of LUA-099.
When fully restored back to how it should be the plates will be either "RA25GT" or "THE88". The car has always been affectionly known as "The Eighty Eight" by my family and all and sundry who know the car.
seeyuzz
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Wed, 15 September 2004 09:42
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Hi,
Me again!
Just letting you (bnicho & RT104GT) know that the car will be at the Show & Shine on the 3rd of October. So, if you live in Sydney come on and have a gander. Maybe even if you live elsewhere you may still want to come. There'll be a stack of other Toyotas for you to feast you eyes on also.
Yes, my book has the speed graphs of the 18RG and the speed graphs of the 18RC ST and LT variants of the vehicle.
seeyuzz
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Location: Melbourne, Victoria, Aust...
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Thu, 16 September 2004 03:05
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Hiya river,
I would love to see your car in the metal, but I live in Melbourne, and I have other commitments that weekend, so I won't be able to make it.
If there are any RT112 or RT114 Corona coupes (same front panels as the RT104) please take some pics for me. They are my favourite Toyota!
Thanks.
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WANTED ALL 18RG original owners.
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Fri, 17 September 2004 01:40
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If you own an original 18RG engined machine of have fitted one in a decent way please let us know.
Website is being modified to accomodate and record all versions of twin cam celica/Corona in Australia/New Zealand. If possible. Will also accept any genuine 2TG engine Celicas, old GT5 with the 9R where is it??? Truenos and levins all were here at some time in past 30 years.. http://members.datafast.net.au/~sg4/
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Location: Melbourne, Victoria, Aust...
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Sun, 19 September 2004 11:29
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Wow! That would be fantastic if you came up with a lead on that car! I would be very interested in it. 20R and LHD would suit me just fine and I'm sure I could work out a way around the DOTARS issues.
I've been looking every couple of weeks all this year for something like that to turn up. I like your 4 door GT but I would really rather have a hardtop (even if it is not a Twin Cam or a GT).
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Re: RA25 GT2000 (1973 model)
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Sun, 19 September 2004 23:45
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Hi,
Japan Toyota has a set of original fender mirrors for the RA25.
I'm going to Toyota today to pre-pay for them. They'll be here in 2 weeks. Excellent stuff! She's going back to full JDM specifications!
seeyuzz
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Mon, 20 September 2004 01:02
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Hi,
I'm on fire today! Here's another update.
Just got back from Toyota, and they are also sourcing me an original TA22/RA25 radio blanking panel. Also, they've got a clock knob in stock and it will be here tomorrow. I'm impressed that the few fiddly bits and pieces are available.
They also are very interested in putting the car in their showroom when it's all done. They're thinking of putting it beside the new Celica. I suppose a "that was then, this is now" theme.
Dunno about the rest of you, but I'd be saying to them "Hey, can you get me the old one, it looks better than the new model?"
Also wenmt to the spray painters and they can remove the door mirror, weld in some metal to plug the hole and match the paint. Also fix the little shopping-trolly ding on the side also, and paint the rocker cover for me. I'll get that done as soon as I get the fender mirrors. Pity, it won't be ready until afer the Show & Shine, so I'm gonna have to show it as is at the moment.
Now, all I need is a job to get all this stuff paid for. Anyone wanna lend me a few grand?
seeyuzz
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Mon, 20 September 2004 07:00
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Hi,
Interesting pics.
I noticed the vehicle has a front and rear side indicator light. In the case of the RA25, the Jap pics show only a single side indicator on the front. I was always under the assumption the rear side indicator light was put onto my vehicle by AMI to met Australian regulations - along with the removal of the fender mirrors (replaced by a single driver-side door mirror).
seeyuzz
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Mon, 20 September 2004 08:05
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Side Lights... The car I saw had just come off a Starlifter flown direct from USA and had a rear but no front plate (I assume it had falled off in shipment).
On US cars the rear side light is illuminated whenthe parkign lights on, unsure about the front light. I possibly tooka photo as I wanted to illustrate the differences (It was 25 years ago).
I dont have a rear side indicator light. I will check a few RA photos overseas and see if they do.
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Location: Melbourne, Victoria, Aust...
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Mon, 20 September 2004 09:00
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I'm really enjoying talking about these interesting old Toyotas! And looking at all the interesting pics!
All US sold cars had to have sidelights that came on with the parking lights from 1968 - red at the rear, amber at the front. This is why the RT115 in the photos has them. BTW: An RT115 is a US spec RT114 hardtop with the 20R engine 5mph impact bumpers and pollution crap.
Steve, If you look real close you can see the far right "gauge" on the yank car is actually two warning lights - low charge and low oil pressure warnings according to the US SR5 owners book I bought on eBay. Your RT104 GT has two extra gauges there instead I think??
Some US states didn't and still don't require a front number plate to be fitted. I cannot make out in the photos what state this car was registered in.
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Mon, 20 September 2004 09:08
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Hi,
Ahhh, the old Lockheed C141 Starlifter. They've just recently finished an upgrade program for them. They had a lot of fatigue and have proven so useful that the USAF decided to spend the money to give them a bit more life.
I'd love to take a few pics of my car next to a Starlifter, or better yet, a Hercules. Wonderful stuff.
I'd swap my car in an instance for a Herky bird!
seeyuzz
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Mon, 20 September 2004 09:48
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In the US owners manual the gauges are the same on the SR5 except the combined amp and oil pressure is replaced with the warning lights I mentioned above.
I had a dig through the DOTARS site when I was considering importing an RT114 for South Africa. I'll go back an have another look at the LHD bits.
Is your Fairlady LHD? Why can't it be registered until 2008? No import papers?
Your GT should not be an issue to re-register in Vic as it has a provable Victoria registration history. If you tried to register it interstate you may strike problems.
Cheers.
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Location: Melbourne, Victoria, Aust...
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Tue, 21 September 2004 23:06
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Excellent!
If you find out any more about that US import LHD hardtop, let me know. Where was it last advertised for sale in April?
Cheers.
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