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 2004 Toyota Camry Sportivo V6
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Sat, 06 November 2004 02:41
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i picked up my new car this morning, and traded in my old 94 Camry.
in the way of mods and stuff that i put in....there isnt very much....it comes pretty much complete in stock form 
http://www.cardomain.com/id/terrynham
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Re: 2004 Toyota Camry Sportivo V6
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Sun, 07 November 2004 01:09
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nice
im looking at getting a camry/avalon atm
as a 19 year old ppl might think im quiet dumb but i have my reasons why i want one
how much did it set you back?
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Re: 2004 Toyota Camry Sportivo V6
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Sun, 07 November 2004 01:15
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well im only 19 this year  , i dont think your dumb
anyway, it was about $37,000 all up.....that includes onroad costs etc...
we were able to haggle it down, and to include:
tinted windows, floor mats, and paint/rust/fabric protection 
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Campbelltown
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November 2003
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Re: 2004 Toyota Camry Sportivo V6
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Sun, 07 November 2004 02:33
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I think your quite dumb cos you can't spell quite camry=cardigans go alright but not fun round corners, plus little body roll
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Ballarat, Victoria
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March 2003
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Re: 2004 Toyota Camry Sportivo V6
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Sun, 07 November 2004 02:39
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i like the new camrys, they look good
what do you mean by not fun around corners?
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Campbelltown
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November 2003
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Re: 2004 Toyota Camry Sportivo V6
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Sun, 07 November 2004 02:50
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plough understeer, they have decent handling with the four cylinder but not enough power with the 6 cyl more weight over the front wheels and more power leads to more understeer. My mum has a 2002 Camry Touring whilst fast the car is not fun to drive had, dodgy seating position wooden accelerator pedal, touchy brakes that have abs that triggers way too early when going down hills. Clutch that is initially hard then really soft so you puch it through the firewall almost.
You can not corner fast in it, understeer, impossible to launch fast cos of the nature of the engine, ie needs 4000rpm before it gets going. Low rpm launch, 20kmph boot throttle hits 4 K wheels start to spin. High rpm launch = go nowhere and sit in clouds of smoke. Low rpm launch small clutch slip, quick change to second and engine bogs down of peak rpm
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Brisbane
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January 2004
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Re: 2004 Toyota Camry Sportivo V6
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Sun, 07 November 2004 05:31
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blah blah blah....i'd be happy with a car like that at the age of 19.
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Re: 2004 Toyota Camry Sportivo V6
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Sun, 07 November 2004 07:07
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The Corona....hmmm more of a whale barge than a Camry!!!
Don't think your dodgy Corona is any better mate.
I'd sure be happy with a new model Camry!!!
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I supported Toymods
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Brisbane
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Re: 2004 Toyota Camry Sportivo V6
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Sun, 07 November 2004 08:48
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| Corona RT142 wrote on Sun, 07 November 2004 13:33 |
I think your quite dumb cos you can't spell quite camry=cardigans go alright but not fun round corners, plus little body roll
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I think you're quite dumb because you can't spell quite. Camry = cardigans, they go alright but they arn't fun around corners, plus a little body roll.
Don't make fun of other's spelling if you're going to make mistakes your self
Back on the topic however, Nice car mate, I like the look of that model Camry, except for the arse end. Any plans for the beast?
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Re: 2004 Toyota Camry Sportivo V6
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Sun, 07 November 2004 08:56
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Corona you are a prizewinner.
I think you've driven 3 cars in your life including your playstation.
Your opinions makes people think your a fool.
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Sydney, Australia
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March 2004
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Potts Point, Sydney
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October 2003
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Re: 2004 Toyota Camry Sportivo V6
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Sun, 07 November 2004 09:01
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change the stock airbox/filter and get some extractors into her
i reckon those camry's are pretty sweet except th V6's are underpowered out of the factory
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Albion Park, NSW
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October 2004
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Re: 2004 Toyota Camry Sportivo V6
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Thu, 11 November 2004 08:15
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how does it handle? I have no idea what the new models are like or how much better the Sportivo is, but all the stock 97 models I test drove didn't handle to my liking, I found one with lowered suspension (from pedders, don't know anything more than that) and it handled a lot better.
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Re: 2004 Toyota Camry Sportivo V6
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Thu, 11 November 2004 08:29
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i havent driven any of the other model Camrys so i cant really compare it to too much , its just like every other Camry i guess
it handles better than my old 94 4-cyl Camry anyway
ill be doing an advance driving course in it next month, so then i should be able to see how good it actually is 
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Campbelltown
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November 2003
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Re: 2004 Toyota Camry Sportivo V6
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Thu, 11 November 2004 09:34
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Funny that lets see howe many cars I';ve driven, a one my corona, two my mums v6 camry, three my brothers echo, four the driving instructors 4 cyl camry, five my dad's pulsar sss, six my sisters corolla ke70, seven my other sisters pulsar Q and eight our old pajero. How many cars have I been a passenger in when driven hard enough to feel their performance. WRX, EVO 6, Lotus ELISE, ASTRA SRI, N14 pulsar sss, Honda integra, SW20 Mr2, Range Rover v8, BMW X5 4.6is, Ford ts50, Modded VP hsv engine station wagon etc etc. So thats me driving well more than three and being a passenger in a heap more so piss off I'm not a fool, I know excatly how the camry drives whilst a brilliant tourer great sound deading it does not deserve a sportivo tag it is not a sports car. The touring is a far more appropriate title and they should have stuck with it.
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Re: 2004 Toyota Camry Sportivo V6
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Thu, 11 November 2004 12:47
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I apologise for my mistake corona.
You do have appear to have driven 8.
If you think that this precludes you from being a fool - I apologise further.
Can you please post when you drive a ninth car so I can make preparations for the tenth - I'm sure a party to welsome a further 25% increases is warranted.
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I supported Toymods
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Re: 2004 Toyota Camry Sportivo V6
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Thu, 11 November 2004 12:59
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I've been a passanger in FIVE aircraft, I know the ins and outs of their handling, AND i've put many hard working hours into Flight Sim, so I speak with authority on all aircraft ever.
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Albion Park, NSW
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Thu, 11 November 2004 13:17
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I notice one car missing from that list corona.... a Camry Sportivo . How can you comment on a car you haven't driven??
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Knox
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July 2004
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Re: 2004 Toyota Camry Sportivo V6
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Thu, 11 November 2004 14:26
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terrynham: Very nice car dood i would be happy with a 37k car too  at the age of 19
as for plans Dimmy77_03: sounds good, maybe zhorst in the near Future as well
Peeack: good luck with your flight sim and further flights
ShaneBlack: Very nicely put.
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Re: 2004 Toyota Camry Sportivo V6
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Thu, 11 November 2004 22:34
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the new camry is pretty much the same as the one it replaced ie same engine suspension etc etc, the only real difference is the body thus I can conclude and by reading motor that nothing has changed and the camry is still a fairly average handler. They tested the sportivo in performance car of the year and low and behold it came like 19th out of a field of around 21.
I dont even own a playstation xbox rather. At the age of 18 I have driven a few cars but I know what handles and what doesn't. My car the corona doesn't necessarily handle well but it is much more fun to drive hard than our camry. Over steer is much more controllable and it allows for planting through deserted roundabouts in second gear with the tail hanging out slightly. Try the same in the camry and you'd spear off the rounabout and into the gutter.
As I said befor the camry is a great car for family, long trips etc, great insulation from the road and great INSULATION FROM ANY SORT OF FEEDBACK. I learnt to drive in the camry its not fun, the car gives no indication through the steering wheel of what is going on. This is the same problem with commodores they dont give feedback and thus dont allow for you to push the cars to their potential as you are laways second guessing what is happening they dont inspire confidence in the driver and thus dont allow for an inspiring drive.
As I said I have been a passenger in many other actual performance cars and have taken feedback from the driver to how the car is reacting. The camry never was and never will be intended as a sports car thus labelling it as a sportivo after fiting some kit mags and a mufler is just a marketing plow. Yes it's got stiffer suspension but it still can't deny the laws of phycis. It has a failry torquey engine powering the front wheels and thus will always succumb to plough understeer when driven anywhere beyond 8 tenths.
You can't pick the throttle up coming out of a corner early like you can with a rear wheel drive and thus it suffers. So what if I have only driven eight cars I know what good and bad, my car ain't great but at least your involved in the driving process plenty of feedback enabling you to adjust and choose an option oversteer or a nice line and pick up the throttle .
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Re: 2004 Toyota Camry Sportivo V6
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Fri, 12 November 2004 02:43
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Keeping the same mechanics doesn't neccesarily mean a car will perform the same. There is enough difference between the new and old Camry to make a difference. The weight and wheelbase are both different which means the weight distribution will most likely have changed, this alone can make differences to a cars steering/handling characterstics.
Also, the Sportivo has a sports suspension package. As I said before I don't know how much difference it makes but from past experience of driving what is otherwise the same car with and without suspension upgrades I know that it can make it handle like an entirely different car. As such you would really have to experience it to make any judgement on the cars handling.
On the note of power down and the power characteristics of the 1MZ-FE. The Sportivo has the motor producing and extra 4 kW and 5 nM. I must admit that I didn't think this was particularly impressive for a 'sports' model. However, the peak power doesn't tell the full story. I don't know how they got the extra power and what that's done to the rest of the power curve. Like you said, it's below 4000 rpm that the motor seams lacking, so if the performance gain is better down there then the motor could be changed from a sensible and easier to drive family sedan motor to something more sporting and fun.
I know it won't be a true sports car but people buying a Camry know they are buying a family sedan and getting the Sportivo just means a sportier version of it and on that note I think I would have to drive the base model and Sportivo to see how deserving it is of the Sportivo tag.
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Re: 2004 Toyota Camry Sportivo V6
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Fri, 12 November 2004 22:36
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Terrynham: very nice mate, I'm 20 and I'm insanely jealous 
Corona boi: You get your information on car's suspensions tunes from magazines? So you missed the September 2002 issue of Wheels, when they tested the current Camry when it was new?
"....set the goal of establishing new benchmarks for the Camry's chassis dynamics. This meant 60,000km of testing on public roads, plus hundreds of hours trialling 50 different suspension tunes...."
"After a couple of fairly hot laps on the rain-slick racetrack, it became clear the new Camry is extremely well-sorted dynamically. High grip levels, a flat cornering stance, and terrific adjustibility on the throttle make it fun to punt hard, adn it never feels dangerous. Slide into understeer and a wee lift tucks the nose faithfully back into line, while oversteer is induced by only the most aggressive driving."
"The rack and pinion steering feels significantly better than before.... the steering is actually lighter, but a massive increase in stiffness of the steering bushes has resulted in the meatier on-centre feel."
I won't listen to your drivel any longer until you've driven one.
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May 2002
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Re: 2004 Toyota Camry Sportivo V6
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Sun, 14 November 2004 10:29
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Nice car dude. Couldn't pick a better daily driver that won't attract unwanted attention, and still embarrass the commonwhore drivers while you cruise in comfort
I wear my cardigan with pride I'll never complain about my 2001 V6 MCV20R camry, so long as I have a weekend toy to abuse.
I've driven (spirited drive too I can assure) both the Altise V6 & Sportivo, and while both have fairly neutral handling (privided you dont mash the gas & reef the wheel like an 18 year old novice mid-corner), the Sportivo did have an edge over the Altise, most likely due to the "sports" suspension, which also felt more firm on the rough stuff.
Terrynham: Maybe you made a mistake after all, I'm sure you would've been happier with a Corona: out of date, cheap, weak, and leaves a bad taste in your mouth, just like the mexican beer
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Ballarat, Victoria
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March 2003
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Re: 2004 Toyota Camry Sportivo V6
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Sun, 14 November 2004 12:09
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looks nice, if i have a family, its camry sportivo time. 
i daresay it'd go quite nicely too. never driven one but im sure i will one day
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Re: 2004 Toyota Camry Sportivo V6
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Sun, 14 November 2004 12:26
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| Tats wrote on Sat, 13 November 2004 09:36 |
Terrynham: very nice mate, I'm 20 and I'm insanely jealous
Corona boi: You get your information on car's suspensions tunes from magazines? So you missed the September 2002 issue of Wheels, when they tested the current Camry when it was new?
"....set the goal of establishing new benchmarks for the Camry's chassis dynamics. This meant 60,000km of testing on public roads, plus hundreds of hours trialling 50 different suspension tunes...."
"After a couple of fairly hot laps on the rain-slick racetrack, it became clear the new Camry is extremely well-sorted dynamically. High grip levels, a flat cornering stance, and terrific adjustibility on the throttle make it fun to punt hard, adn it never feels dangerous. Slide into understeer and a wee lift tucks the nose faithfully back into line, while oversteer is induced by only the most aggressive driving."
"The rack and pinion steering feels significantly better than before.... the steering is actually lighter, but a massive increase in stiffness of the steering bushes has resulted in the meatier on-centre feel."
I won't listen to your drivel any longer until you've driven one.
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you just dont understand, corona man is jesus, the world changes according to his will
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Sydney
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Re: 2004 Toyota Camry Sportivo V6
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Mon, 15 November 2004 03:42
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Corona man, when you have driven cars like GTR's Supras, FD RX7's Lotus Elise', Porsche GT2, etc etc, then say you have driven a real car, not a pulsar q or an Echo!
shaneblack, funny nick name man, my name is Shane and my nick name is black lol.
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nsw, north coast
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November 2004
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Re: 2004 Toyota Camry Sportivo V6
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Mon, 15 November 2004 07:25
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how much did they give your for trade in on your 94, i have a 95 csi i wanna trade with under 150,000 on it but dont know the going rate on traades
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Sydney, Australia
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Re: 2004 Toyota Camry Sportivo V6
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Mon, 15 November 2004 07:45
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the trade in price they gave us was pretty crap
it was only $4000 
my one was a CSi 4-cyl model too, but it had like 187,000km on it
the thing was it didnt have too great a history, as in, it was repaired from being side-swipted and repaired from extreme hail-damage.
I didnt tell the dealer any of this, but the valuator knew just by looking at it  , he is a professional i guess
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nsw, north coast
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Re: 2004 Toyota Camry Sportivo V6
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Mon, 15 November 2004 09:04
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in performance of course i like the new one
more power than the old car
my dad didnt want to only get $4000 for it, but we needed a new car, since this one was pretty much dead , since the engine wasnt running really well....
and i was too lazy to sell it privately, so we just said stuff it, and just traded it in
i spent a bit of money putting bits and pieces on it aswell.....but the weekend before we picked up the new car, i just took anything and everything i put on it off, so i almost returned it to stock condition
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Re: 2004 Toyota Camry Sportivo V6
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Wed, 17 November 2004 11:04
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hey you know of any aussie camry forums?? i need info on conversions which is kinda thin heheh
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January 2004
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Re: 2004 Toyota Camry Sportivo V6
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Wed, 17 November 2004 12:01
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you dont need a camry forum...you got all the info needed on toymods
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Re: 2004 Toyota Camry Sportivo V6
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Wed, 17 November 2004 12:16
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this is the only Aussie Toyota forum i know of
well for Camrys there is ToyotaNation, but you probably knew that already
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Re: 2004 Toyota Camry Sportivo V6
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Wed, 17 November 2004 22:17
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| vaporlokk wrote on Mon, 15 November 2004 19:34 |
oh yeah in the way of mods you can syperchatge the newer gen v6 i would do it just to suprise those magna idiots and commodore pea holes
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I don't think it is possible to supercharge the Australian version 1MZ with off the shelf supercharger systems from TRD etc. Simply because these were made for LHD cars and there are problems with space on the RHD cars. I think it's the brake booster that is the problem, but not sure.
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Re: 2004 Toyota Camry Sportivo V6
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Thu, 18 November 2004 05:59
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Yes, it's either the brake booster or the clutch fluid that's getting in the way. Although I think the bigger issue is the price. For over US$3000 I'm sure you can get something that will give more power as well as fit the Australian car.
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Re: 2004 Toyota Camry Sportivo V6
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Thu, 18 November 2004 11:17
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well thats a bummer.... really is sad no development happents here for these cars, i know you all think their stupid boring family cars but i kinda like em alot
i will get my 3sgte camry one day damnit
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Sydney
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September 2003
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Re: 2004 Toyota Camry Sportivo V6
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Fri, 19 November 2004 04:39
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vaporlokk
What kind of Camry do you have ?
Nice ride man I love the new Sportivo's.But if it were me I would have got the black
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Re: 2004 Toyota Camry Sportivo V6
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Fri, 19 November 2004 04:43
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for a guess if he wants a 3sgte I'd say a sv21 correct me if i'm wrong
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Fri, 19 November 2004 05:46
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Why? Because it's the easiest? Ive seen the Gen 3 with 3SGTE motors in 'em. Any Camry with that motor would go like stink...hmm..well maybe not the newer ones..which are quite overweight to what they used to be!!
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Re: 2004 Toyota Camry Sportivo V6
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Sat, 20 November 2004 07:48
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yeah i got a 95 widebody, i heard its a piece of piss to do the conversion, just expensive... wonder if youd be able to hook a 3sgte onto one of the awd diesel camry gearbox...
*pondes*
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Re: 2004 Toyota Camry Sportivo V6
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Tue, 07 December 2004 10:09
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| terrynham wrote on Thu, 11 November 2004 19:29 |
ill be doing an advance driving course in it next month, so then i should be able to see how good it actually is
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yes i am quoting myself
anyway, i did that advance driving course today at Eastern Creek
it was really fun
so now i know how the car handles
it handled really well i reckon, it didnt slide too much going into the corners and i didnt take out any cones with it either
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Re: 2004 Toyota Camry Sportivo V6
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Thu, 09 December 2004 23:16
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| Corona RT142 wrote on Sun, 07 November 2004 13:33 |
I think your quite dumb cos you can't spell quite camry=cardigans go alright but not fun round corners, plus little body roll
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I think you're quite dumb because you used "your" instead of "you're", and you don't have much of a clue about grammar or punctuation. Don't throw stones mate, you live in a glass house
That's a damn hot Camry dude, great choice! They're a good alternative to the Commodore and Falcon, but they could do with a bit more power, ya know? Anyway, get some nice rims and lower it a bit, and she'll be sweet
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Re: 2004 Toyota Camry Sportivo V6
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Tue, 14 December 2004 11:22
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nice lookin family car, FAMILY.. i dont see how a 19 year old wud spend 37K on a family car, the car itself looks quite nice and i got nothing against it..but couldnt u think of a better "sports car" to spend 37k on.
BUT..everyone is entitled to there opinion and if ur happy with ur car thats all that matters good luck with it
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Re: 2004 Toyota Camry Sportivo V6
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Tue, 14 December 2004 21:20
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| Nolan wrote on Tue, 14 December 2004 22:22 |
BUT..everyone is entitled to there opinion and if ur happy with ur car thats all that matters good luck with it {snip}
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You said it yourself!
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Re: 2004 Toyota Camry Sportivo V6
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Tue, 21 December 2004 02:53
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Hey guys i only just registered im going to join toymods at start of next yr (jan 17th) just thought i wud lets yas know that im gettting my new car tomoro. it being a camry sportivo 4cyc. ive bin waiting for ages bout 2 months coz im getting a manual so i they had to order it specially. Hey man is ur V6 a manual or auto? btw im only 18
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Re: 2004 Toyota Camry Sportivo V6
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Tue, 21 December 2004 03:01
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| phil545 wrote on Tue, 21 December 2004 13:53 |
Hey guys i only just registered im going to join toymods at start of next yr (jan 17th) just thought i wud lets yas know that im gettting my new car tomoro. it being a camry sportivo 4cyc. ive bin waiting for ages bout 2 months coz im getting a manual so i they had to order it specially. Hey man is ur V6 a manual or auto? btw im only 18
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HI PHIL
Welcome to toymods, see u on the 17th.
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Re: 2004 Toyota Camry Sportivo V6
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Tue, 21 December 2004 04:59
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| phil545 wrote on Tue, 21 December 2004 13:53 |
Hey man is ur V6 a manual or auto? btw im only 18
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its an auto , im too much of a lazy ass to change gears
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Re: 2004 Toyota Camry Sportivo V6
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Fri, 31 December 2004 05:57
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Very nice car man, don't listen to corona, he always seems to be biased against camrys, this isn't the first time he has tried to tell us of "plough understeer". Anyway looks great, the 04 model looks alot tougher, i used to drive an sv21, but i recently traded to a Hyundai Elantra. Looks after it man and it will last you,
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Re: 2004 Toyota Camry Sportivo V6
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Wed, 05 January 2005 04:03
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yeah, don't worry what they say, who car if it gets huge under, you can have fun in anything, you can be the understeer king. my mate had the one just earlier to yours in the 6, went faster than v6holdens. but over 120 through winding roads it sometimes got into some uncontrollable swaping action. i think the tyres and suspension didn't help
tell me, can you get lift off over in it? you should stiffen the sway bar in the rear!
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