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why are ae86s so popular?
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Mon, 29 November 2004 07:43
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ok...... i dont mean to offend anyone by raising this question but, i've been reading this forum and i notice that many people has alot of LOVE for the sprinters, and these lil cars are starting to grow on me!! i m very tempted to trading in my ae92 for one of these!!
so why is it the most wanted car nowdays(according to what i've read)? is because its cheap and easy to work on? is it because it has the potential to go sideways, and good for the track? more aftermarket parts are becoming available?
i m very curious to see what ae86's owners has to say about this....
thanks!!
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Mon, 29 November 2004 07:46
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T_is4turbo wrote on Mon, 29 November 2004 18:43 | ok...... i dont mean to offend anyone by raising this question but, i've been reading this forum and i notice that many people has alot of LOVE for the sprinters, and these lil cars are starting to grow on me!! i m very tempted to trading in my ae92 for one of these!!
so why is it the most wanted car nowdays(according to what i've read)? is because its cheap and easy to work on? is it because it has the potential to go sideways, and good for the track? more aftermarket parts are becoming available?
i m very curious to see what ae86's owners has to say about this....
thanks!!
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easy to work on an cheap in comparison to other cars
can be tuned to be quite nimble and fun on the track/road
a very "raw" feeling car with very simple setup
the feeling of mild oversteer that can be controlled by throttle is fun too
but yeah, its much more fun than an ae92 to drive!
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Re: why are ae86s so popular?
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Mon, 29 November 2004 07:47
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Initial D
that is all
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Location: Castle Hill, Sydney
Registered: February 2004
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Mon, 29 November 2004 07:56
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can enthusiasts want them cause they are good cars, heaps of potential, theres not many decent rwd toyotas under a tonne with coil springs
theres also the ae71, ke70, te71, te72 which are pretty similar to the ae86, but these are a bit older and nowhere near as 'cool' as they aren't featured in a certain anime...
which is why you get all the WTB ads for them from the people that don't have a clue!
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Location: Liverpool/sydney
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Location: Adelaide, SA
Registered: May 2002
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Mon, 29 November 2004 08:02
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afaik, they are all 2 door... unless i'm wrong
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Location: Colac, Victoria
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Re: why are ae86s so popular?
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Mon, 29 November 2004 08:17
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few reasons why
Small RWD 4 cyl
Handles relatively decent in stock form - better when tinkered with
Huge aftermarket support from japan
Sorta like the Ford Escort mark 1/2 in a lot of manners - Both have decent track hsitory , support + results to back them up , both have cult status in varios places in the world ..
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Location: Sydney
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Mon, 29 November 2004 08:18
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Ok, I'll chime in with a little story.
I literally grew up in love with GTR's (ever since I first saw them at bathurst as a kid). Growing up I began to realise I was never going to afford one. So the time came for me to look for my first car.
So I laid down some factors that I saw imperative in a car.
-power/weight
-kerb weight.
-drivetrain
-price
-age (couldnt be older than me)
-ease of modability(ease as in $$$)
A few cars met these perogatives in some areas but not in others, after a long time researching I totally by chance found out about a little car in japan known as the hachi roku. I started researching them and then found out they were locally delivered. And they met every factor I wanted. (It's kinda scary my bday is 5/1983... And the release of sprinters in Australia? 5/1983)
For the record, I was very close to buying an NX-R at one stage.. But the fact that it was FWD diswayded me)
Everyones story is probably different. But in the end I'd say 95% of owners are true to the spirit of the car and probably love these factors subliminally.
I think what seperates it from certain model KE's is simply its unique look and age. Ofcourse its the last of the RWD AE's also (Australia wise)
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Location: Melbourne
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Mon, 29 November 2004 08:27
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bathurst-91 wrote on Mon, 29 November 2004 19:18 | Ofcourse its the last of the RWD AE's also (Australia wise)
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no, worldwide my friend.
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Location: Sydney
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Mon, 29 November 2004 08:31
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Is that so?!
I was under the impression the later GTZ Levs were also rwd Well I guess that makes the point evan more profound.
Excellent.
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Location: Adelaide
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Mon, 29 November 2004 09:31
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There are a group of us AE86 nuts who have owned these things since well before the drift scene bacame popular. Having seen their rise from an owners perspective Rex can offer these comments...
The recent popularity of sprinters comes from what Rex likes to call the Idol Syndrome. Where something is dressed up and mercilessley heaped into the public eye as something it is not until it becomes the new fad
The AE86 is 20 years old. ask yourself why is it only now they are starting to grow on you?
Could it be because of their ever increasing exposure due to the drift 'scene'. Which itself has a bad case of idol syndrome (Actual sliders and the Autobarn fashion drifters).
Or is it Initial D, Whatever it is, in recent times owing an AE86 will make you the envy of many because you will own one of those 'sick little drifters'. Forgetting the fact the Oz ones are shit, and the JDM ones are way over priced.
Make no mistake Rex loves them but he despises their recent popularity which has caused a great many of them to land in scrap yards because some fucking young degenerate bonehead slid into something hard while trying to drift his 'sick little drifter'.
Blood boiling, must leave...
Steer clear.
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Mon, 29 November 2004 09:33
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Rex_Kelway wrote on Mon, 29 November 2004 20:31 |
Make no mistake Rex loves them but he despises their recent popularity which has caused a great many of them to land in scrap yards because some fucking young degenerate bonehead slid into something hard while trying to drift his 'sick little drifter'.
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ill second that
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Location: Land of Oz
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Mon, 29 November 2004 10:26
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Hi,
Aren't there other front-engine, RWD vehicles that can also do the drift? For example, can the TA22, when properly "tweaked" also be a good drifter? Supras - can you drift them? What about the RS2000/RS1800 Escorts? Hey, even the old V6 Capri? How about something a little bigger like an E49 Charger?
If not, why not? If so, why do I not see many people drifting their TA22 (or T18's - tho' I got a feeling Jesse prolly drifts everywhere in his, including his driveway).
I've yet to see anyone go "wow, it's original" to an '86 like they do with old TA22s. How many years will it take before the '86 enters the "classic" realm where original condition units are awed at like an original TA22?
seeyuzz
river
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Location: Melbourne
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Mon, 29 November 2004 10:33
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they already are in that state. People are selling imaculate ones in japan for crazy amounts of money, 20 grand plus!
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Location: Adelaide
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Mon, 29 November 2004 10:36
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river: On the comment about original condition.. In line with the escort comparison earlier, the Eskys got popular because they were drove hard, in Rallys. Same sort of deal as AE86s, but it was drift. The modified Escorts seem to attract more attention than original spec ones.
But having said that, I am pretty sure in japan they have car shows where they judge AE86s on their original condition? I have seen something about it somewhere...
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Location: Adelaide
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Mon, 29 November 2004 10:37
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I bought my car because i love the hachi roku to the death.
the ecstacy of revving out a tough little NA motor is music to my ears, and warms my heart. I personally, do not care for forced induction motors in the hachi roku, to me NA is where its at. Sure its not as fast, but its awesome fun.
Ill admit that standard AE86s (aus) are absolute crap. They have the basis for decent handling, but a standard one with crappy shocks just IS NOT going to handle well at all. Please dont be fooled by "Its a sprinter, all sprinters handle well" not true.
Now... i actually broke down tonight!! havent had that happen before. the fuel pump died, so im gonna go change it now, wish me luck!
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Location: Sydney/Wollongong
Registered: October 2004
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Mon, 29 November 2004 10:52
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meh.. i would love a sprinter.. but they are like a glorified datsun.. too expensive for what they are (when standard that is) modified well the price paid for them is prolly justifiable but i would rather build my own car.
that is why i bought the KE70.. same floorpan as the AE86 (and AE71 for that matter) and its something different that not everyone mazzes over..
people will prolly shoot me for exposing this little gem as the four door sprinter it sort of is but sometimes you've just gotta look outside the square.. something that isnt idolised but is still a good car.. like an old turbo volvo my next project i think..
nice cars but far too expensive..
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Location: Sydney
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Mon, 29 November 2004 11:02
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river
anything can be "drifted"
yet a light nimble powerful rwd usually reigns supreme
personally ive liked them since seeign them in mags like car etc while growing up in school
liked the look of them
they were reasonablly priced and one of the sweveral yotas from a yota family id own
btw when did initial d start ?
like to know if i can classify my love officially before inital d hysteria
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Location: NSW, Sydney
Registered: April 2004
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Mon, 29 November 2004 11:23
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yeah i got one, loved them to death as i was a kid
i never even knew about initial d till a couple of months ago!
"some people for their first car bought with their heads, i simply, bought with my heart"
i bought it simply because it makes me smile
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Location: ghetto area 2745
Registered: November 2003
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Mon, 29 November 2004 11:31
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i bet very few of the 86 owners on this forum can actually drive there finger up there ass
drifting is bullshit
if you have the balls do it in the forest with the big boys
86s are shit oz or jdm spec
86s with a shit load of money poured into them are not
possibly the second best rwd fun car in the world beaten by the kp 60 starlet
my 2cents
sexy16
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Mon, 29 November 2004 11:39
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river wrote on Mon, 29 November 2004 21:26 |
I've yet to see anyone go "wow, it's original" to an '86 like they do with old TA22s. How many years will it take before the '86 enters the "classic" realm where original condition units are awed at like an original TA22?
seeyuzz
river
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http://www.carland86.com
want a factory spec, fully-restored AE86? got $35,000 AUD?
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Location: ghetto area 2745
Registered: November 2003
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Mon, 29 November 2004 11:45
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why would anyone pay 35 grand for 1 of them
sure i own a few and love them dearly but they are not worth that
for the same money you could import a cosworth sierra and a bmw m3 and still have money left over for the flight home
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Location: Melbourne
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Mon, 29 November 2004 11:46
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lol, thats more than they cost brand new
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Location: Land of Oz
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Mon, 29 November 2004 11:52
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Hi,
35 grand! Are you for real?
For 10k less than that I can get a damn nice TA27GT. Much rarer and much better looking car. In stock form they make heads turn. I doubt (no offense to anyone) that a stock '86 is a head turner.
35 grand... holy freaking crikey blimey hell... that's a lot of dosh for an 86.
seeyuzz
river
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Location: Perth, WA
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Mon, 29 November 2004 11:59
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I bought mine in March 2001, which pretty much pre-dates the whole Inital D/drift influence (at least in WA).
So, why did I buy it? I was actually keen on getting an AW11 MR-2, because I'd heard how well they handle, went alright with the supercharged 4AGZE, and I liked the way they looked (probably has something to do with sitting in one at a Perth Auto Show when I was about 15 or so).
Then my friend said to me "why not get a AE86/Sprinter - you can fit the same engine to them, they're roomier, heaps easier to work on 'cause of the FR layout, and can handle pretty decently, too".
So that was it - I went looking and was lucky to find one which had a lot of the work done for me (e.g. engine swap, re-spray, after market ECU). Now, I love it for its potential - with a bit more money (always a bit more... ) and effort I'll have a car that's a hoot to drive - and where I can learn how to BE a good driver (on the track).
[Updated on: Mon, 29 November 2004 12:00]
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Mon, 29 November 2004 12:14
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river wrote on Mon, 29 November 2004 22:52 | Hi,
35 grand! Are you for real?
For 10k less than that I can get a damn nice TA27GT. Much rarer and much better looking car. In stock form they make heads turn. I doubt (no offense to anyone) that a stock '86 is a head turner.
35 grand... holy freaking crikey blimey hell... that's a lot of dosh for an 86.
seeyuzz
river
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well thats for a immaculate black limited.. the rarest fo rare ae86
but for a general one ther come in @ 0.8mil yen - 2 mil yen
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Location: Sydney
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Mon, 29 November 2004 13:15
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its all been said,
RWD, 2 door, heaps of potential etc etc etc....
i must admit that i would love to own one, however with the whole initial d syndrome going around the prices have gone up and i don't think i could justify the money that people are asking for basic examples. although they do go down as a car that i would like to own at one stage, along with a nice TA22
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Location: Brisbane
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Mon, 29 November 2004 13:47
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Do you guys really think initial d is that popular? I hardly ever hear about it outside these forums.
As for me and my love of my car, I didn't know a single thing about them when my dad pretty much told me to buy one of his workmate. But then driving it up and down Mt Nebo Rd 2 or 3 times a day for over a year (after suspension mods) I've realised their relatively awesome potention as a platform for upgrades.
Haha I have to laugh remembering the first time I saw initial d... I was walking past a computer games store and was like "wft is my car doing on the box of a game??"
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Location: Melbourne - NthSubs
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Mon, 29 November 2004 14:13
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grip is way better
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Location: NSW Engadine
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Mon, 29 November 2004 20:01
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DORIFTO!
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Location: NSW Engadine
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Mon, 29 November 2004 20:05
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All I can say is THANK GOD! That Initial D is not on free-to-air TV... wlk past a school and hear little kids saying "I'm gonna buy an eight-six and drift like takumi".... man I would hate that... The price for an aus-spec would go up to say 8 grand...
And the bloody wannabe's.... All you guys with sprinters must be sick of the wannbe's... I know I am
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Location: c'town, NSW
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Mon, 29 November 2004 21:47
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one of the main points of its popularity from a perofrmance point of view (ie the enthusiast with performance and not a cartoon in mind) is its rack and pinion steering
compare similar weight toyotas (TA22, RA23, KE35, early TE72??) they have the same running gear (ie same handling potential) but all have steering box (welcome to slop town population you), the AE86 with its R&P comes out on top.
if only the AE86 had IRS... actually if only the MA61 was 1000kg.
then id have either no choice.
and yes u can drift anything, i feel this shouldnt be a main factor in the pros of the AE86.
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Mon, 29 November 2004 21:49
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I've only ever seen 1/1/2 episodes of Initial D.
so don't tell me why i own my car
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Location: ghetto area 2745
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Mon, 29 November 2004 22:01
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ae86drift wrote on Mon, 29 November 2004 23:14 |
river wrote on Mon, 29 November 2004 22:52 | Hi,
35 grand! Are you for real?
For 10k less than that I can get a damn nice TA27GT. Much rarer and much better looking car. In stock form they make heads turn. I doubt (no offense to anyone) that a stock '86 is a head turner.
35 grand... holy freaking crikey blimey hell... that's a lot of dosh for an 86.
seeyuzz
river
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well thats for a immaculate black limited.. the rarest fo rare ae86
but for a general one ther come in @ 0.8mil yen - 2 mil yen
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garth there is a rarer car than the black limited
it that coloured car in my avater majenta red metalic
only 10 ever made for uk export only and i own 2 out of the 3 that remain
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Location: Canberra
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Mon, 29 November 2004 22:09
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i'm probably one of the very few that doesn't want to drift their AE86. For me i wanted a car that was RWD, lite and had heaps of power. Something that would be a mix between street/track.
Toyotas had always intrigued me as i thought their twin cam design was second to none and they had that styling about them that makes you weak at the knees. So i did a bit of research on toyota's and came up with the 86.
Sure, they didn't have much power but with a 1g in them, the car equated to everything i wanted in a car
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Location: Newcastle
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Mon, 29 November 2004 22:09
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ae86drift wrote on Mon, 29 November 2004 22:39 |
river wrote on Mon, 29 November 2004 21:26 |
I've yet to see anyone go "wow, it's original" to an '86 like they do with old TA22s. How many years will it take before the '86 enters the "classic" realm where original condition units are awed at like an original TA22?
seeyuzz
river
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http://www.carland86.com
want a factory spec, fully-restored AE86? got $35,000 AUD?
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That is awesome.
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Location: Newcastle
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Mon, 29 November 2004 22:18
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Oh, and i only bought one because i really want to be Takumi.
There, i said it. WHOOO that feels better.
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Location: Terrigal
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Mon, 29 November 2004 22:31
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I brought my first one (now my girlfriends) around 6 years ago? Way before I ever heard of drifting or initial D.
I mainly brought it because it was light, rwd, rack & pinion, easy upgrade to 4age engine. Also back then they were quite cheap!
Anyhow after driving it I totally fell in love with the handling and feel of the AE86. Once upgraded to the 4age it was just a ball to drive.
Even with the 4age it seems to hold its own quite well on the old pac with much more powerful turbo cars.
It made me realise how poor the RA28 (which is and always will be my fav) handled and felt on the road. Hence the rack & pinion conversion and suspension upgrades to try and get it feeling more like the AE86 does.
I have to admit a year or so ago my mate was in japan and sent me back some initial D DVDs and i'm addicted to the cartoon. Doesn't matter how much it gets bagged on here, I reckon its entertaining but it didn't have anything to do with the purchase of the car. I also like scoobie doo but wont go and try and buy the mystery wagon they drive around in
A year ago I accidently became the owner of a second AE86 as my girlfriend had pretty much taken over the first one. So thats become my daily driver now and just last few weeks have dropped a 4age in that.
Cheers
Joel
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Location: Melbourne
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Mon, 29 November 2004 23:00
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I was in the market for one long before i'd ever heard of Initial D. I wanted a small, light, RWD car with a revvy EFI twin-cam 4 cylinder - what else is there? I didn't want anything too old, i didn't want a soft-top (like an MX-5), i didn't want a FWD and i definitely didn't want a Silvia because every man and his dog has one.
The only other car i was considering was a 260z 2 seater, but they're just too old and rusty to be worth it these days.
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Location: NSW Engadine
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Mon, 29 November 2004 23:02
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As I have said before...
The main reason the AE86 is so popular is the stigma that surrounds it... It can be modified beyond recognition... over the years it has been used for circuit, rally, auto-cross, drag racing and now DRIFT...
It is the last RWD toyota running a truly strong 4AGE setup... handling from stock isnt anything to write home about but with the right parts it can be fantastic... they can be fitted with any 4AGE, 3SGE, 2T & 3T, 18R, 1GGTE, 7MGTE, 1JZGTE, 2JZGTE... In a lightweight shell...
They are pretty much the last RWD lightweight car toyota made... so if you're looking for a Light RWD... why would you go for a KE20 when you can get the latest technology toyota ever offered in a light RWD...
They have 4 wheel discs, macpherson struts all round, they are 2 door, and dont look at all terrible.
Look on the bright side of the rising prices... Theres more parts now than ever... and more are around
Oh yeah... and the first car I ever looked at buying was an aus spec sprinter and I didn't even know what an LSD was back then... I didnt even know what engines they had... so I can tell you I was never influenced by Initial D... I may not own a sprinter but I know enough about them...
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Mon, 29 November 2004 23:21
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79rollaboy wrote on Tue, 30 November 2004 10:02 | why would you go for a KE20 when you can get the latest technology toyota ever offered in a light RWD...
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Well said.
But Aus specs didn't have discs on the rear.
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Location: Sydney
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Mon, 29 November 2004 23:37
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79rollaboy wrote on Tue, 30 November 2004 07:05 | All I can say is THANK GOD! That Initial D is not on free-to-air TV... wlk past a school and hear little kids saying "I'm gonna buy an eight-six and drift like takumi".... man I would hate that...
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Thank god indeed.
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Location: Campbelltown
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Mon, 29 November 2004 23:37
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Cars become popular because of exposure simple as that. Look at something like the GTHO Phase 3 one was recently advertised in the paper for $110000, i know the history etc etc. But look at it this way that car has 40 yr old suspension brakes etc. It's engine is really the only thing it has going for it. It would be raped by any half decent these days both in a straight line and handling guarenteed. The thing is though like everyhting that goes up will come down so will the popularity of cars. The Ae86 will peak probably close to doing that at the moment if some stupid fuck actually pays 35K for one and then they will lose out majorly when the bubble bursts. A new cult favourite will come along and the Ae86 will be left for the diehards and flail into insignificance of the popular culture.
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Location: Sydney
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Tue, 30 November 2004 00:01
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Corona RT142 wrote on Tue, 30 November 2004 10:37 | A new cult favourite will come along and the Ae86 will be left for the diehards and flail into insignificance of the popular culture.
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I wish. But this is like saying in 1987 that a '67 mustang will flail into insignificance. Yes other cult cars will come along. But that doesnt necessarily mean previous cult cars will fall out of the lime light (althought it would be nice).
Actually its kind of funny, is there another example of car (on the planet) where its popularity has peaked 20years+ after its release? When we refer to cult cars, basically all of them were cult classics upon release.
A few come to mind, but nothing this big.
I was at a party on the weekend (a mates 21st) Saw some people I hadnt seen since highschool. And a guy comes up to me who I never used to speak to and goes, Hey man whats the deal with the car I asked around and people said its yours? Im like. Yep. He then started going on about the hachi and asking all types of questions like whats the diff between it and the popup light version, and so on and so on. This guy as far as I knew never had an interest in cars at school.
It's interesting.
Actually, the same night another mate said "OI man, I got NFS2 Underground and theres this car that looks exactly like yours except it has popuplights????"
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Location: Perth
Registered: June 2003
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Re: why are ae86s so popular?
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Tue, 30 November 2004 00:07
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For me it was the first car I've ever personally owned. I shared a honda city with my bro before that, which was nicknamed "conan-the honda" because no matter how hard we hurt it, it kept coming back for more. Handbrake parking was great fun in the honda.
I was shopping for my first car and saw the sprinter and liked the shape. I knew nothing about it, initial-d or anything about drifting. After buying it I googled it to see if anyone else had modified them, and to my suprise found heaps and heaps of info. Now I see them all in car mags/dvds/net e.t.c. I'm even prouder to own it now they are popular, screw that if it makes me unpopular on this forum, but having a car some people recognize and admire can be a good thing.
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Location: Newcastle
Registered: June 2004
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Re: why are ae86s so popular?
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Tue, 30 November 2004 00:14
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cytribe wrote on Tue, 30 November 2004 11:07 | I'm even prouder to own it now they are popular, screw that if it makes me unpopular on this forum, but having a car some people recognize and admire can be a good thing.
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I think the same way.
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I Supported Toymods
Location: Sydney
Registered: December 2002
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Re: why are ae86s so popular?
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Tue, 30 November 2004 00:18
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I'd say there are two main reasons that 86's are so popular / expensive these days.
1. Initial D and the associated "Takumi" want2be's... think about an Australian version of "Itsuki"
2. The AE8X series of cars were the sort of thing most of us bought as our first car... people generally get attached to their first car because of all the mods they have done and the memories they have from driving that car.
The AE86 also has the mystique of being a little rare and different especially the treuno... people who bought the AE86 to be a bit different 5 odd years ago are probably getting pretty pissed at all the people who bought one for reason 1. and have subsequently smacked them into tree's or what not.
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Registered: February 2003
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Re: why are ae86s so popular?
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Tue, 30 November 2004 00:31
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^ YUP
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Location: Melbourne
Registered: March 2003
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Re: why are ae86s so popular?
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Tue, 30 November 2004 01:29
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The original reason they were so popular is that they were very cheap and good value. I'm talking about jdm ones here, where the cult status originated from. They were cheap, came with lsd as an option, enough power and huge modding potential.
Then tsuchiya came along and really pulled the most out of the car on his local touge and got snapped up to compete profesionally. All this only added to the popularity but the main reason is that they were and to some extent still are quite cheap and good value.
Aus specs are completely different though. People are asking way too much for them. The reality is theirs very little different from other rwd corrolas from the 80's so why the huge cost premium?
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Location: Melbourne
Registered: June 2004
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Re: why are ae86s so popular?
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Tue, 30 November 2004 01:50
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I think you will find the cult classic the Fairlady Z will be fetching high prices in Japan for decades to come...
The AE86 will only get more expensive as it goes on par with the Fairlady as time goes on
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Location: Brisbane
Registered: July 2002
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Re: why are ae86s so popular?
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Tue, 30 November 2004 02:40
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I dont know if this is the right place to put it..
but
WTB Sprinter.. anyone who wants to sell me one for 1500 dollars, with mods msg me
*waits to get shot*
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Location: sydney
Registered: August 2003
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Re: why are ae86s so popular?
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Tue, 30 November 2004 03:10
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Jag7799 wrote on Tue, 30 November 2004 13:40 | I dont know if this is the right place to put it..
but
WTB Sprinter.. anyone who wants to sell me one for 1500 dollars, with mods msg me
*waits to get shot*
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...*loads gun*
i heard about these cars years ago but to be honest initial D got me into cars and especially into the ae86 NO I DO NOT WANT TO DORFITO IT!!
i just think theyre a cool car. i mainly looked up information on them just out of curiosity and i fell in love
im still saving to buy a stockie one
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Location: Brisbane
Registered: May 2004
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Re: why are ae86s so popular?
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Tue, 30 November 2004 03:20
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cytribe and evan: this is also the way i think... why is it for some reason bad to have a car that other people like on these forums??
I agree with a lot of people in this thread, and have no time for "wannabes", they frustrate me beyond belief, but having a car that can be enjoyed by others really shouldn't be shunned...
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Registered: February 2003
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Re: why are ae86s so popular?
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Tue, 30 November 2004 03:26
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white86 wrote on Tue, 30 November 2004 14:20 | cytribe and evan: this is also the way i think... why is it for some reason bad to have a car that other people like on these forums??
I agree with a lot of people in this thread, and have no time for "wannabes", they frustrate me beyond belief, but having a car that can be enjoyed by others really shouldn't be shunned...
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since when was it bad to own a car that other people liked on these forums?
I don't think people are not liking the ae86, rather they are just not liking the people with little to no knowledge about ae86's own them.
The ae86 has the upmost respect from anybody.
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Location: ghetto area 2745
Registered: November 2003
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Re: why are ae86s so popular?
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Tue, 30 November 2004 03:31
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what i dont understand it that nearly every person that owns an 86 in australia goes this way about it
first
1 engine conversion
2 set of wheels
3 suspension
4 paint and a body kit
no one hardly ever does the main conversion put a lsd rear end in and the car is totaly different to drive
total bullshit habib
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Location: Brisbane
Registered: May 2004
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Re: why are ae86s so popular?
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Tue, 30 November 2004 03:37
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point taken ae86slaver
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Registered: February 2003
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Re: why are ae86s so popular?
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Tue, 30 November 2004 03:44
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soz, just didn't want the impression that the ae86 was going down to the level of say, a silvia or a skyline.
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Location: Sydney
Registered: September 2003
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Re: why are ae86s so popular?
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Tue, 30 November 2004 05:00
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YADS!
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