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Slacks Creek
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December 2004
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KE11 Coversion
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Tue, 28 December 2004 03:51
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Any info on front end suspension for a conversion for a ke11 corolla with a rotary 13b series 5
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Kita-Ku, Sapporo, Japan
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January 2003
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Re: KE11 Coversion
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Tue, 28 December 2004 05:49
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umm, how about... it's not legal 
are you getting the 13B engineered?
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ireland
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October 2004
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Re: KE11 Coversion
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Tue, 28 December 2004 08:37
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if you can get your hands on a complete kp61 starlet front suspension and steering assembly you would get rack and pinion steering, an antiroll bar and you would loose that nasty transverse leaf spring. i fitted these parts to my ke35 last year when i was living in ireland, im in sydney now and i have a ke11 myself but the starlet parts are not available here 
the most difficult part was making the starlet crossmember fit the ke35 chassis rails and making a holder for the bearing on the end of the starlet steering column to fit the ke35 bulkhead, i used the lower half of the starlet column with the knuckle and the upper half of the ke35 column they just fit together at the collapsable sliding section.
the starlet is roughly the same wheelbase and front track as the ke35 so thats why i chose those parts, i had a complete ae86 front suspension and steering on it before that and it never handled properly. if you could measure between the strut tops and the front track, wheelbase etc of both a ke11 and a ke35 to see how similar they are you might have an idea if these parts will work.
good luck with the conversion
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Location:
Kita-Ku, Sapporo, Japan
Registered:
January 2003
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Re: KE11 Coversion
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Tue, 28 December 2004 09:05
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KE10 is a few inches smaller in both track and wheelbase than a KE30.
the rail width is also smaller (i think it's 28" vs 28.5")
what you also need to remember is that the KE10 carries the weight of the car on the rails. most other cars carry the weight at the top of the struts, so you will need to significantly beef up that area....
and a 13B is not legal anyway
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On Probation
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January 2004
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Re: KE11 Coversion
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Tue, 28 December 2004 09:08
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recklessmotorsport - If you need to get starlet bits, Pm me, i will put you onto someone i know in NZ that works for toyota, and is a really good source for toyota bits, and espically bits we cannot get here in australia 
Cheers
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Location:
Slacks Creek
Registered:
December 2004
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Re: KE11 Coversion
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Tue, 28 December 2004 23:05
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By engineered do you mean mod plate
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Location:
Kita-Ku, Sapporo, Japan
Registered:
January 2003
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Re: KE11 Coversion
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Wed, 29 December 2004 06:48
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i mean legal to drive on australian roads.
the 13B is considered a 2.6L.
the KE11 is 720kg.
3x0.720 is NOT bigger than 2.6.
how do you plan to get it approved to drive on the roads?
Cya, Stewart
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Slacks Creek
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December 2004
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Re: KE11 Coversion
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Wed, 29 December 2004 06:54
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if you can get a datsun 1200 ute certified with a 308 in it i'm sure there will be no problems
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Location:
Kita-Ku, Sapporo, Japan
Registered:
January 2003
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Re: KE11 Coversion
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Wed, 29 December 2004 07:05
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what did your engineer say?
LOL, 308 in a 1200 ute? not in NSW, nfw (except ICV)
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Location:
Slacks Creek
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December 2004
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Re: KE11 Coversion
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Wed, 29 December 2004 07:15
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i am in QLD i dont know how much the state laws vary but the 1200 ute with the 308 only had to be mod plated as far as i know.other sorces have said the 13 b cant be done we just want to know.all the engineers up here seem to be on holiday!
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Location:
Kita-Ku, Sapporo, Japan
Registered:
January 2003
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Re: KE11 Coversion
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Wed, 29 December 2004 07:28
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http://www.transport.qld.gov.au/qt/driver.nsf/file s/images/$file/Vehicle-Modifications.pdf
page 22/23
the minimum standards for all of these modifications are contained in the Code of Practice for Light vehicle Modification.
0.72x3= 2.16L = maximum engine size = no 12A, no 13B.
was the 5L in a 1200ute done recently? if so it is likely to not be legal _even with a mod plate_. a dodgy approval is no better than no approval when you go to court 
it may have been done a long time ago when laws were more lax, or it may have been done as an individually constructed vehile (which is not easy with an old car), or it may have been done on a full chassis with a 1200 ute body
as for suspension, the front suspension basically needs to be removed and the whole front end reinforced properly. you should be aiming for rack and pinion and proper macpherson strut, but finding a donor vehicle with a track that small is not easy.
and why a 13B? you will need to cut out the trans tunnel as well.
Cya, Stewart
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Location:
c'town, NSW
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May 2002
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Re: KE11 Coversion
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Wed, 29 December 2004 07:54
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cuz all da c00l kidz haev teh 13b i seen dem in da h0t f0rz
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Location:
ireland
Registered:
October 2004
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Re: KE11 Coversion
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Wed, 29 December 2004 10:18
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you should be aiming for rack and pinion and proper macpherson strut, but finding a donor vehicle with a track that small is not easy.
kp61 starlet! forgot to mention that a lot of these starlets are used for tarmac rallying in ireland and some use ford 2litre pinto engines with ford capri crossmember, steering rack and struts so mabey ford capri parts might suit? but the steering rack will be in front of the crossmember and may need the sump to be modified, also since the capri is a bit longer in wheelbase than a ke11 the ackermans angle will be wrong so i think the rally boys use mk2 escort rs 2000 tie rod brackets on the capri struts.
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