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F20C Into rear wheel drive corollas {eg:ae86}
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Sat, 08 January 2005 00:44
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Ok i have seen a few pictures of the F20C conversion into the ae86's around the world , but as far as i can see all have been left hand drive ?
Is it a problem of the exhaust been on right hand side of the engine ? will the steering clear ? or will the rack have to be reloacted to the front of the subframe , more bmw style .Also most of the left hand drive pictures i have seen have the engine very high and far forward with a really crappy intake path  .
The reasoning behind this is the cost of the s2k half cuts are about $6000 , with the front panels be able to be re-solded at$3000+ at wreckers pricing .I can see this price dropping as the s2k has just been completely changed in the suspension and body area for the new model out  .
You don't need any of the rear of the car anyway since the diffs are piss weak and once while i worked a honda dealer it was a $7g bill for the poor owner which thought burnouts where cool  .And there always seems to be a demand for the panels too . At that price if its not such a hard conversion its really about the same as a 20v conversion in cost , and theres also quad throttles available for the engine if you need the extra induction noise .
And pictures or these conversion would be appreciated , or links to this conversion .
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Re: F20C Into rear wheel drive corollas {eg:ae86}
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Sat, 08 January 2005 06:23
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That hot staff one is right hand drive , but the engine sit alot higher than the one done by evolution motorsports . By the look of the hot staff one the transmission tunnel had to be butchered because of the engine height ?
Whats with the six speed reverse ? there is r32 kits for fitting r200's into the s2000 because of the weak diff , so direction of drive from the gearbox drive must be the same direction as most rear wheel drives , well really it has to be to offset the driveline torque .
This is a worry "The headers were custom project, tuned and tested. Over 40 units were fabricated to duplicate and better the OEM Honda units to provide power characters matched to the engine. This unit features longer, smoother flow than Honda S2000 unit." As most people would know the honda engines normally lose power with most exhaust changes , and building 40sets of manifolds is crazy stuff . Would have been lots easier to make the units pipe adjustable and play around with lengths and pipe sizes on a engine dyno. Thats just bloody stupid tuning that is yeah making all of those i guess there would have been "hotstaff"
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I supported Toymods
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sydney.au
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August 2002
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Re: F20C Into rear wheel drive corollas {eg:ae86}
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Sat, 08 January 2005 06:37
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theres a few f20c ae86's on dvd's ive got from japan
by the look of it they dont sit that badly but the intake path still sucks
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Re: F20C Into rear wheel drive corollas {eg:ae86}
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Sat, 08 January 2005 06:42
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Which DVD's Garth ? I will have to look out for them . Must be another way to make the induction better than all the ones before , maybe a offset radiator of something ?
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Re: F20C Into rear wheel drive corollas {eg:ae86}
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Sat, 08 January 2005 06:44
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offset radiator would work, but fiddly
its the ae86 club dvd's (orignally VHS) from ebay
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Carlingford, Sydney
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Sat, 08 January 2005 12:15
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its also on a vtec dvd, some honda magic show or somthin 
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Sat, 08 January 2005 12:19
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email g tyler from t3
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I supported Toymods
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Sat, 08 January 2005 12:20
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i dunno which one
or maybe it was a best motoring?
nah had to be an ae86 club
go watch em all again 
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Sacramento, CA, United St...
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Re: F20C Into rear wheel drive corollas {eg:ae86}
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Fri, 01 July 2005 01:06
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give you alot of crap!? man this things a beast!
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Re: F20C Into rear wheel drive corollas {eg:ae86}
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Fri, 01 July 2005 01:26
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done a lot of reading into this as it's something i want to do in the future...
from what i've read... engine electrics are basic on a s2000. the wiring is logically spliced into harnesses on the engine and nothing is hanging off little parts (ie: coils/ignitors) making working on the engine piss easy. don't forget the harness is pretty heavy... it weights 3kg
engine emissions how ever looks a bit more complicated. OBDII is a load of crap, and seeing as thou u may know some honda specilists (if ur not one urself) ask about how to get it off the car while running
theres an immobilzer system on the f20c that makes owning a s2000 key being the onyl thing able to start the car. you'll have to install the s2000 cylinder into the car for the 'on' position and wire the stock ae86 start position into the starter. If ur getting a halfcut, use the button, just for the fun of it. and don't forget the fully sick digital dash display...
engine mounting points are very easily adapted to a ae86. the mounting point is facing the ground and not slanted like an 86. bassically you have to find the point on ur cross memeber that will set the engine in the desired position, drill, space, weld a nut and the engine will sit.
don't forget the s2000 has fancy things like auto door locks and trunk realise... which might be fun to see in a 86.
i don't see the exhuast being to much of a problem either. considering the fact that it's almost the same as a 4ac (just bigger)... o2 sensors off the car are more of a concern
if you want to run power steering it can get a bit confusing. caues the alternator and the a/c compressor share the ame belt you have to look at running a shorter belt or just use p/s with a stock belt. if that makes sense.
i would worry about the diff... from what i've heard it doesn't cope with the s2000's crazy motor to well (unless u do some crazy weight reduction). I've seen KP61 upgrades which seem to work wonders with no complaints.
here are some pictures
p.s: forget being legal
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Rosanna, Melb
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Re: F20C Into rear wheel drive corollas {eg:ae86}
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Fri, 01 July 2005 01:38
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WTF, that is one seriously compact gearbox. Looks strange as in the in-car shot.
Go on Adam, do this, it'd be fun.
Hen
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Baulko Hillo
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Re: F20C Into rear wheel drive corollas {eg:ae86}
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Fri, 01 July 2005 01:40
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| Sam_Q wrote on Fri, 01 July 2005 11:06 |
give you alot of crap!? man this things a beast!
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I agree. That thing is absolutely beautiful. You must be a very, very proud man!
Big up yaself.
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Re: F20C Into rear wheel drive corollas {eg:ae86}
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Fri, 01 July 2005 10:06
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The latest Hot Version , US edition has just come out with english . It has Gabe's Ae86 driven in the Americian Touge bit on the track ?? Wheres the Touge , but anyway worth a D/L .
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February 2003
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Re: F20C Into rear wheel drive corollas {eg:ae86}
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Fri, 01 July 2005 15:44
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The latest Hot Version , US edition has just come out with english . It has Gabe's Ae86 driven in the Americian Touge bit on the track ?? Wheres the Touge , but anyway worth a D/L .
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I was just going to mention this, great dvd!
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Re: F20C Into rear wheel drive corollas {eg:ae86}
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Sat, 02 July 2005 00:16
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Where can you get that F20C front cut?
anyone got the contacts?
I will be interested to do this conversion.
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Sat, 02 July 2005 06:38
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I hope you have deep pockets!! they are worth a stack
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Re: F20C Into rear wheel drive corollas {eg:ae86}
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Sat, 02 July 2005 23:36
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| Sam_Q wrote on Sat, 02 July 2005 16:38 |
I hope you have deep pockets!! they are worth a stack
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yeah well, welcome to the world of motorsports.
Still, does anyone know where I can get a front cut?
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