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20v or 4AGZE Tue, 24 May 2005 09:23 Go to next message
hey im just wondering what to put in my 1992 seca SX
a 4agze or a 20v just want to get some ppls idea ... And wud they both bolt straight in or wud some mods have to b done ..???
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Re: 20v or 4AGZE Tue, 24 May 2005 09:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
what do you want from you car?
20v revs although won't make as much power as a GZE. gze is also very torquey....
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Re: 20v or 4AGZE Tue, 24 May 2005 09:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
wud a gze bolt straight in any mod needed to be made..?
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Re: 20v or 4AGZE Tue, 24 May 2005 10:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
yes 4agze would pretty much bolt straight in...

What's your budget and what do you want from your car? Free revving or torque and power?
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Re: 20v or 4AGZE Tue, 24 May 2005 11:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Gze will bolt straight in...

It's also quite free revving Wink
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Re: 20v or 4AGZE Wed, 25 May 2005 09:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
i got a 20v in my car, its fun but you have to rev it hard to get anypower from it, raced some gze's, not much difference, but for day to day driving its a bit annoying not having any tourqe down low, but they sound madd!
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Re: 20v or 4AGZE Wed, 25 May 2005 10:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
I'd go the 20V purely on availability and price these days, the GZE motors are getting hard to find at decent prices, and condition.
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Re: 20v or 4AGZE Wed, 25 May 2005 12:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
wuzah? wrote on Wed, 25 May 2005 19:58

i got a 20v in my car, its fun but you have to rev it hard to get anypower from it, raced some gze's, not much difference, but for day to day driving its a bit annoying not having any tourqe down low, but they sound madd!


when you say not much difference between the two what do you mean? similar speeds/accelleration and i'm assuming that they were running the standard pulley.
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Re: 20v or 4AGZE Wed, 25 May 2005 12:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
4AGZE is too expensive and rare now.

20V is avalible but you already have a 4AGE so putting say half the amount of money a 20v conversion would cost into your current 4AGE would net much more benifical results.

In other words throw the money into your current 16v.
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Re: 20v or 4AGZE Wed, 25 May 2005 12:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
however my 16v is rather shagged and has got a drinking problem, drinks oil like its going out of fashion hahaha
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Re: 20v or 4AGZE Wed, 25 May 2005 13:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
glug glug glug
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Re: 20v or 4AGZE Wed, 25 May 2005 13:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
topic has been covered well over a thousand bazillion times, do a search.
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Re: 20v or 4AGZE Wed, 25 May 2005 13:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
A rebuild is a perfect oppertunity to slap in some high comp pistons , cams , get the head machined and port matched to those quads you were guna slap on it. Wink
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Re: 20v or 4AGZE Wed, 25 May 2005 13:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
i would suggest the 20v would place less strain on your gearbox driveshafts etc compared with the torque of the gze.
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Re: 20v or 4AGZE Thu, 26 May 2005 07:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
i mean race from 0-about 120, it probly was a standard gze with no pullies
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Re: 20v or 4AGZE Thu, 26 May 2005 07:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
20v's are alot easier on the insurance but a gze will ultimatly go faster for less i mean a front mount, 3" exhaust, pod filter and a nevo 175 mm pulley and here comes 115kw atw.
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Re: 20v or 4AGZE Thu, 26 May 2005 10:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Having driven both (in sprinters)
I would recomend the ze for performace (ie. add a pulley kit and its just mad).
Would take a 20v for sound, god its just... horney.
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Re: 20v or 4AGZE Mon, 30 May 2005 05:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
CLG wrote on Wed, 25 May 2005 20:04

I'd go the 20V purely on availability and price these days, the GZE motors are getting hard to find at decent prices, and condition.


very very good point..

couldnt find a replacement motor in southeast queensland when i broke mine...

so i had to have it rebuilt
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Re: 20v or 4AGZE Wed, 01 June 2005 22:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
does anybody fit in gze engine packages?
im looking for that in the market too sometime soon

[Updated on: Wed, 01 June 2005 22:19]

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Re: 20v or 4AGZE Wed, 01 June 2005 22:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
GTZLevin wrote on Mon, 30 May 2005 15:40

CLG wrote on Wed, 25 May 2005 20:04

I'd go the 20V purely on availability and price these days, the GZE motors are getting hard to find at decent prices, and condition.


very very good point..

couldnt find a replacement motor in southeast queensland when i broke mine...

so i had to have it rebuilt


thats cause you live in queensland Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing
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Re: 20v or 4AGZE Thu, 02 June 2005 05:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
4agte wrote on Thu, 02 June 2005 08:25

GTZLevin wrote on Mon, 30 May 2005 15:40

CLG wrote on Wed, 25 May 2005 20:04

I'd go the 20V purely on availability and price these days, the GZE motors are getting hard to find at decent prices, and condition.


very very good point..

couldnt find a replacement motor in southeast queensland when i broke mine...

so i had to have it rebuilt


thats cause you live in queensland Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing



god dammit he right.. stupid importers.. get more ze's!
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Re: 20v or 4AGZE Thu, 02 June 2005 12:30 Go to previous message
If you want economy go the 20valve! I'm running a 20valve in my RT51 corona,using a motec computer and using only 7 litres/100km.Easier for insurance too! Smile
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