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3005
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icon9.gif  18R-GEU problem Wed, 13 July 2005 13:04 Go to next message
my 18R-GEU engine wont work...

this it what happens:
first when i try to start it starts but then it just stops, the same happens the second time, but then the third, fourth etc. time it wont start at all.
and the ful pump is runing all the time!

sounds like the ignition just stops, maybe the coil igniter is broken or something i dont know...

//Tobias
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Pheonix
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Re: 18R-GEU problem Wed, 13 July 2005 16:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
have you done anything to the electrics lately? chech all earths, i suspect you injectors are not opening due to bad earthing
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Re: 18R-GEU problem Wed, 13 July 2005 21:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
is there a fuel pump relay on these cars? not familiar, if they have check that if its working properly.
then check wiring on the ECU for the fuel pump

I thought it should stop after 5 secs or something.
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Re: 18R-GEU problem Thu, 14 July 2005 06:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
your car is starting on the cold start injector, this is why it starts then stops. it appears that your injectors are not pulsing therefor start there... check for the ING signal from the coil/ignitor to the ecu. without this signal the ecu doesnt know when to fire the injectors

good luck

phill
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Re: 18R-GEU problem Thu, 14 July 2005 09:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
can also be caused by the ignition fuse blown out or the like - that is if it will only run while the key is in the "start" position and if it stops when you release from start position.
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Re: 18R-GEU problem Thu, 14 July 2005 11:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
yeah check your open circuit relay

good luck

phill
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3005
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Re: 18R-GEU problem Thu, 14 July 2005 11:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Scootaphill wrote on Thu, 14 July 2005 09:42

your car is starting on the cold start injector, this is why it starts then stops. it appears that your injectors are not pulsing therefor start there... check for the ING signal from the coil/ignitor to the ecu. without this signal the ecu doesnt know when to fire the injectors

good luck



phill


how do i check for ING signal? so if it doesnt come a signal is the coil/ignitor broken then?

//Tobias

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Re: 18R-GEU problem Thu, 14 July 2005 12:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
brett_celicacoupe wrote on Thu, 14 July 2005 12:01

can also be caused by the ignition fuse blown out or the like - that is if it will only run while the key is in the "start" position and if it stops when you release from start position.


not sure about that, could be...i havent found that fuse if it would be that all electronic system in my car is a mess looks like a 4 year old have done it Confused
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Steve M
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Re: 18R-GEU problem Thu, 14 July 2005 14:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
How long does it run before it stops?
Does it start running worse and worse and then stop?

If this is the case, look for a pinched fuel line. It will start and run on residual pressure, then it fades and dies.

If it's not that, then it's electrical, that's my bet.
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Razor
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Re: 18R-GEU problem Thu, 14 July 2005 21:41 Go to previous message
I had the exact problem with my other car

starts then stops

try injecting fuel manually and see if that starts

get those injector pulse noids? to test if they are pulsing

the fuel pump shouldn't run all the time in the 1st place so check wiring

check if you have strong spark from coil and spark plugs

check if not sure if this engine have water/coolant temp sender unit? might be faulty causing the ecu to think is very cold.
ALSO
check the air regulator if they have one...take it off when cold see if its fully closed or open


goodluck

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