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carina_72
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TA12 + 3SGE	Wed, 10 August 2005 22:24

Here is my project, carina TA12 '72, almost ready. [Updated on: Sun, 11 September 2005 02:31] [Report message to a moderator]

Corona RT142
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Re: TA12 + 3SGE beams	Wed, 10 August 2005 22:53

let me be the first to say that is fucking hot [Report message to a moderator]

De@Noo
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Re: TA12 + 3SGE beams	Wed, 10 August 2005 23:04

WOW! [Report message to a moderator]

Dirty_Sanchez
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Re: TA12 + 3SGE beams	Wed, 10 August 2005 23:52

that my friend, is the coolest thing i've seen [Report message to a moderator]

Evan
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Re: TA12 + 3SGE beams	Thu, 11 August 2005 00:45

OMG!! That is so cool [Report message to a moderator]

KOFFEE-BLACK
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Re: TA12 + 3SGE beams	Thu, 11 August 2005 01:17

wow! Thats awesome, never seen one of those! Must be fun with the 3SGE! [Report message to a moderator]

MR 1JZ
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Re: TA12 + 3SGE beams	Thu, 11 August 2005 01:43

OH GET FUCKED!!! that is the hottest old schooler evar im assuming USA based with the LHD? [Report message to a moderator]

ke382TG
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Re: TA12 + 3SGE beams	Thu, 11 August 2005 02:58

That is horn! Such a cool shape, the whole thing.....the wheels...everything....awesome [Report message to a moderator]

carina_72
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Re: TA12 + 3SGE beams

Thu, 11 August 2005 04:28

MR 1JZ wrote on Thu, 11 August 2005 04:43

OH GET FUCKED!!!

that is the hottest old schooler evar Very Happy

im assuming USA based with the LHD?

europe, finland

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MR 1JZ
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Re: TA12 + 3SGE beams	Thu, 11 August 2005 04:31

awesome... good too see some good modified european representation on these forums waits for jayem to chime in [Report message to a moderator]

skellator
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Re: TA12 + 3SGE beams	Thu, 11 August 2005 05:08

HAAWWWWWTTT! lokk how friggen low it is! [Report message to a moderator]

carina_72
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Re: TA12 + 3SGE beams	Thu, 11 August 2005 14:06

thanks for feedback there were stock brakes and rearaxle in the time of those pics, now upgrading those. Altezza brakes every corner, hiace LSD rear, 5-lug also every corner. J160 altezza 6-speed trans. Otherwise stock, I haven't spoil the original beautiful chassis or interior. [Updated on: Thu, 11 August 2005 20:47] [Report message to a moderator]

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Re: TA12 + 3SGE beams	Thu, 11 August 2005 16:40

that my friend is very very cool [Report message to a moderator]

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Re: TA12 + 3SGE beams	Fri, 12 August 2005 00:22

That thing is sweet. Great job! [Report message to a moderator]

EvilJack
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Re: TA12 + 3SGE beams	Fri, 12 August 2005 01:33

more pics [Report message to a moderator]

h3ff44
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Re: TA12 + 3SGE beams	Fri, 12 August 2005 04:19

omg i didnt noe such a car existed... nice one. [Report message to a moderator]

carina_72
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Re: TA12 + 3SGE beams

Fri, 12 August 2005 06:33

h3ff44 wrote on Fri, 12 August 2005 07:19

omg i didnt noe such a car existed... nice one.

It's been kinda common car here in europe, sold between 72-73 in usa, never sold in australia. nowadays itŽs quite rare I think Sad

[Updated on: Fri, 12 August 2005 07:21]

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MX73_drifter
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Re: TA12 + 3SGE beams	Fri, 12 August 2005 09:05

first 1 ive eva seen its hawt [Report message to a moderator]

boofis
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Re: TA12 + 3SGE beams	Fri, 12 August 2005 11:04

COOLEST CAR EVER!!!!! Thank thing is class! Thanks Troy [Report message to a moderator]

ke30king
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Re: TA12 + 3SGE beams	Fri, 12 August 2005 12:08

that is fucken horn i lerve it and please post some more pics!!! [Report message to a moderator]

carina_72
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Re: TA12 + 3SGE beams	Fri, 12 August 2005 13:50

I will post pics when I find some old and take new ones. And try to get those to somewhere. [Report message to a moderator]

tom210
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Re: TA12 + 3SGE beams	Fri, 12 August 2005 15:15

picks up jaw, attempts to talk that shit is teh hotness, HOTT with two T's [Report message to a moderator]

ae86drift
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Re: TA12 + 3SGE beams	Sat, 13 August 2005 05:22

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oldcorollas
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Re: TA12 + 3SGE beams	Sat, 13 August 2005 05:34

mmmmmm sex on wheels ; [Report message to a moderator]

carina_72
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Re: TA12 + 3SGE beams	Sat, 13 August 2005 07:34

few specs here (today) engine 3S-GE dual vvt-i from '99 toyota altezza transmission 6-speed manual from altezza brakes 4discs from altezza (~300mm) rearaxle from hiace/hilux with LSD front hubs special made, pcd 114,35 (4,5"5)in all wheels 157 wheels with 195/50 15 tires, ET0 rear and 12 front (13*7, 175/50 13, ET3 in pics) front hubs, exhaust from head to rearend, and few other things made by amworks.com Had to change those awesome rims to bigger because of the brakes. usa/jdm rearlights and frontlight/turninglight lenses in bumber. jdm mirrors in fenders [Report message to a moderator]

ke203sge
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Re: TA12 + 3SGE beams	Sun, 14 August 2005 01:01

Got your mail. Nice seeing it alive. What happened to your homepage? Can't access it anymore Hope i'll get my projects on the road soon [Report message to a moderator]

Alchemist
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Re: TA12 + 3SGE beams	Mon, 15 August 2005 12:03

My friend that is sensational! Absolutely perfectly done, it looks amazing and i'll beat it goes amazing. Verrrry nice! [Report message to a moderator]

Lucid
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Re: TA12 + 3SGE beams	Tue, 16 August 2005 03:40

Absolutely drool-worthy Top work! [Report message to a moderator]

Airbrushguy
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Re: TA12 + 3SGE beams	Tue, 16 August 2005 04:17

And I thought my car was rare. wow, nice work, I like the Idea f the Alteza stuff to, will be a great car. [Report message to a moderator]

carina_72
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Re: TA12 + 3SGE beams	Tue, 16 August 2005 20:38

few new pics. and more... http://www.potretti.fujikuvat.fi/album/showalbum.p hp?id=163727 I try to get more pics someday again and mayby my other cars also [Updated on: Tue, 16 August 2005 21:21] [Report message to a moderator]

ke203sge
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Re: TA12 + 3SGE beams

Tue, 16 August 2005 21:56

carina_72 wrote on Tue, 16 August 2005 22:38

few new pics. and more...
http://www.potretti.fujikuvat.fi/album/showalbum.p hp?id=163727
I try to get more pics someday again and mayby my other cars also

Few new pics.. where?!
"Rekisteröidy" - register what, where? My finnish is a bit rusty Razz

The link doesn't take me to any pics...

Edit: Hold on! There it is. Took me three attempts to get the gallery. Nice work, but did you really have to cut-out the bottom to make space for the steering? Why not go for rack&pinion from a AW11, AE82-86 or a Kadett C/Ascona B ? Smile

Looks like TA12 has a bit longer tranny tunnel than KE20. Did you move the engine mounts far forward?

I have the sxe10 crossmember. Yes, it is too wide, but why not cut it in and use it for compatibility. And the fluid-filled rubber mounts. Btw, a friend told me to use JOFA hockey pucks and drill hole in them with straight-through 10mm bolts. He claims the engine is vibration-less enough. I partly agree with him.

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Re: TA12 + 3SGE beams (new pics)	Wed, 17 August 2005 01:37

I love it. I can't say I'm a fan of carina's in general but that is a really special car. [Report message to a moderator]

bnicho
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Re: TA12 + 3SGE beams (new pics)	Wed, 17 August 2005 02:08

I LOVE this!!! Carinas are AWESOME!!! [Report message to a moderator]

carina_72
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Re: TA12 + 3SGE beams

Wed, 17 August 2005 04:58

[quote title=ke203sge wrote on Wed, 17 August 2005 00:56]

carina_72 wrote on Tue, 16 August 2005 22:38

did you really have to cut-out the bottom to make space for the steering? Why not go for rack&pinion from a AW11, AE82-86 or a Kadett C/Ascona B ? Smile

I havenŽt done any big changes to chassis/body, because itŽs unwelded/rust free car, only 160000km driven. Gearstick hole is the biggest mod and there are about dozen 6-10mm holes. I might do rack and pinion sometimes in future thou. Engine mounts are little bit more forward than stock ones, but engine is still so far back than possible.

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carina_72
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Re: TA12 + 3SGE beams	Fri, 26 August 2005 19:40

Engine has spoken first time long enough to get a normal running temperature. Only header at the moment (no exhaust pipe), but sounds awesome Now I try to get it so ready that I can take to a local toyota dynoday, two weeks to go. I'll try to get some videoclips, that everyone can hear because of new "little" bit lighter flywheel, throttle response is quite good [Updated on: Tue, 06 September 2005 21:04] [Report message to a moderator]

Thunderbird2
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Re: TA12 + 3SGE beams (new pics)	Sat, 27 August 2005 10:49

bows respectfully gobsmacked. It's like teh coolest BEAMS conversion evah! What style of headers do you have? They make a large difference to power delivery on this motor. eg. TRD 4-2-1 gives HEAPS more mid range. [Report message to a moderator]

THE WITZL
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Re: TA12 + 3SGE beams (new pics)	Sat, 27 August 2005 11:06

that... is sex. [Report message to a moderator]

carina_72
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Re: TA12 + 3SGE beams (new pics)

Sun, 28 August 2005 01:14

Thunderbird2 wrote on Sat, 27 August 2005 13:49

*bows respectfully*

gobsmacked. It's like teh coolest BEAMS conversion evah!

What style of headers do you have? They make a large difference to power delivery on this motor. eg. TRD 4-2-1 gives HEAPS more mid range.

It's special made for me by www.amworks.com

http://www.potretti.fujikuvat.fi/album/renderimage.php?albumid=163727&id=4086442&width=598&height=449

[Updated on: Tue, 06 September 2005 21:06]

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carina_72
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Re: TA12 + 3SGE beams (new pics)	Sun, 28 August 2005 01:21

If someone knows "tuning" parts to beams engine and knowledge of effects those offers. example trd cams, how much more power etc.. I would be very thankfull and happy. Or just links or something, it's just so "rare" engine. Suprise thou, I want more power ps. I won't charge it [Report message to a moderator]

oldcorollas
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Re: TA12 + 3SGE beams (new pics)	Sun, 28 August 2005 07:13

problem with beams motor is that for an NA motor, they are already pretty well tuned. can't hope for much more torque out of it, and power band is already pretty high in the rpm... i would not expect much more powr from it, and it would sacrafice the mid range too much.. unless you got new cams which had bigger dratio for both with and without VVTi so you sacrafice the very botom end, for a midrpm cam and an even higher rpm top end??? still, may not be much more in it (and you are still way ahead of any other NA 3SGE motor...) [Report message to a moderator]

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Re: TA12 + 3SGE beams (new pics)	Sun, 28 August 2005 10:53

Hornolicious! Love the Carina. Stew, was at a dynoday today - BEAMS 3SGE making over 160 rwkW (fairly tweaked of course), with more to come. [Report message to a moderator]

hickoz_bro
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Re: TA12 + 3SGE beams (new pics)	Sun, 28 August 2005 12:38

NOICE car... love it!! BUT!!! and don't hate me for saying this... but i can't help think the wheels are too small... i'm not saying you should go out and get 24" chomies... but maybe 16's with a 60/65 profile shrugs i dunno... that's my 2c... [Report message to a moderator]

oldcorollas
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Re: TA12 + 3SGE beams (new pics)

Sun, 28 August 2005 13:04

gianttomato wrote on Sun, 28 August 2005 20:53

Hornolicious! Love the Carina.

Stew, was at a dynoday today - BEAMS 3SGE making over 160 rwkW (fairly tweaked of course), with more to come.

oh, i stand corrected!
what rpm?
they make 210Nm from 2L stock at 6500rpm??

her they are claiming 198kw and 240Nm....
http://www.damseauxmotorsport.co.za/rally_car.htm

i know some ppl think 100ftlbs/L is the limit, but it still seems rather high??? maybe i'm just too oldschool Razz

shit eh.... go for it Very Happy

gambatte!!

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carina_72
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Re: TA12 + 3SGE beams (new pics)

Sun, 28 August 2005 13:30

hickoz_bro wrote on Sun, 28 August 2005 15:38

NOICE car... love it!!

BUT!!! and don't hate me for saying this... but i can't help think the wheels are too small... i'm not saying you should go out and get 24" chomies... but maybe 16's with a 60/65 profile *shrugs* i dunno... that's my 2c...

Those are too small, I know that. Nowadays there are 7*15" with 195/50 15. Pics of new look coming asap.

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Re: TA12 + 3SGE beams (new pics)

Sun, 28 August 2005 13:40

oldcorollas wrote on Sun, 28 August 2005 23:04

what rpm?

8700 rpm.

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Re: TA12 + 3SGE beams (new pics)	Tue, 30 August 2005 17:15

heh heh, thats just a little up on standard ... must sound lovely!!! [Report message to a moderator]

CelicaRA45
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Re: TA12 + 3SGE beams (new pics)	Sat, 03 September 2005 11:41

hey stewy did you notice the st215 motor on the engine stand ,or its a rally special as the beams have no disy and the cyl head is not 1 i have seen [Report message to a moderator]

CelicaRA45
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Re: TA12 + 3SGE beams (new pics)	Sat, 03 September 2005 11:49

carina man if you wont to make more power you will need a new ecu ,change rod ratio with new forge pistons and new rods ,new cams still using vvti and also quad throttle set up ,plus new valve springs plus there are other parts as well my ra45 is making 165 kws at the back wheels at 8700rpm and a flat torque curve from 4000 rpm to 8800rpm the comp ratio is still 12to 1 to run on pump fuel ,if you wont to do any mods or you need any parts let me now as im building up a new 1 for 180kws at the back wheels [Report message to a moderator]

carina_72
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Re: TA12 + 3SGE beams (new pics)	Sat, 03 September 2005 20:04

celica man, nice to know that someone knows something about 3sge beams. I'll have to be in touch with you. Those mods comes sometimes, near future I hope, but first I have to make it work properly and "finished" otherwise. I have custom made exhaust manifold + pipe, toda flywheel + clutch package and custom made aircleaner setup, otherwise stock. How much horses your engine gave in stock mode? It supposed to have 210 JIS/SAE hp, but how many there are really? 130-140 engine kws mayby? Well, when I get big brakes conversion ready, I'll go to dyno. Any pics of your beams? [Report message to a moderator]

FrEaK oF CaRs
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Re: TA12 + 3SGE beams (new pics)	Sun, 04 September 2005 01:45

OMG THAT IS SOOOOO CRAZY good work dude it is very special... WOW AND WOW AND WOW [Report message to a moderator]

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Re: TA12 + 3SGE beams (new pics)	Sun, 04 September 2005 05:45

omfg that is horn. that has to be 1 of the best rear ends i have ever seen [Report message to a moderator]

andylaurel
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Re: TA12 + 3SGE beams (new pics)	Sun, 04 September 2005 06:36

its just so lovely. [Report message to a moderator]

carina_72
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Re: TA12 + 3SGE beams (new pics)	Sun, 04 September 2005 14:53

while surfin' around, spotted one pic. [Report message to a moderator]

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Re: TA12 + 3SGE beams (new pics)

Sun, 04 September 2005 22:19

carina_72 wrote on Sun, 04 September 2005 06:04

Any pics of your beams?

http://members.optusnet.com.au/gianttomato/Sprints/Glenns%20BEAMS2%20in%20car3.jpg

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carina_72
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Re: TA12 + 3SGE beams (new pics)	Tue, 06 September 2005 20:33

we cleaned our garage little bit and here are few pics. Car is very dirty, have clean it up someday also new rims in those pics also, have to lower it down a little and get some drift camber to front [Updated on: Tue, 06 September 2005 21:02] [Report message to a moderator]

carina_72
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Re: TA12 + 3SGE beams (new pics)	Wed, 28 September 2005 22:31

now first testdrive is done. stainless 4-2-1 with stainless 3" pipe and one muffler, better airfilter and 8000rpm sounds quite awesome goes better than old 2T few things have to be done, but it's driveable and that gives more power to builder/driver [Updated on: Wed, 28 September 2005 22:32] [Report message to a moderator]

carina_72
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Re: TA12 + 3SGE	Sat, 01 October 2005 12:37

Now dynoed, won't give as much power/torque than toyota let us believe Revlimiter cuts powercurve climbing in 7800 rpm, and that curve is going 45 degrees up in that time 9kw is missing, but it still gives some hope. Mayby apexi power fc would help . Little more fuel and raising that revlimiter would give little bit more power to top end and more torque to down and middle. Had to done 57mm restriction to inlet before airflow meter to get richer mixture. [Report message to a moderator]

CelicaRA45
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Re: TA12 + 3SGE	Sat, 01 October 2005 12:43

because you changed the extractors that will change how the motor makes it max h/power ,and torque [Report message to a moderator]

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