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AE86 Regular Location: Face down in a ditch Registered: May 2002	Why no love for the 4A-C? Bullies!! Tue, 08 October 2002 13:25 After reading through the plethora of threads in the forums about engine conversions for the trusty Sprinter, a newbie would be under the impression that the 4A-C is a mechanical paperweight and that the 4A-GXX is god's give to planet. Can the tech heads out there advise why it is not feasible, either financially or technically, to do the typical mods that are down to the old V8's and the like - bore and stroke, cam, port and polish, quality carburetion and tuning - to the C? Correct me if I'm wrong but a 4A-C puts out around 50kw, while the 4A-GE puts out around 86kw. Apparently the only difference between the two motors is the head and aspiration of the GE. A 70% increase in power seems to be an extreme gain for a new head and the addition EFI. To me it suggests that the C is severely restricted and is more than happy to be worked. Can people who have worked their C post what they did, or else shoot me down in flames and say that there is nothing that can be done to the 4A-C. Cheers, AE86 [Report message to a moderator]

	Subject	Poster	Date
	Why no love for the 4A-C? Bullies!!	AE86	Tue, 08 October 2002 13:25
	Re: Why no love for the 4A-C? Bullies!!	mrshin	Tue, 08 October 2002 13:34
	Re: Why no love for the 4A-C? Bullies!!	haggis	Wed, 09 October 2002 02:29
	Re: Why no love for the 4A-C? Bullies!!	EvilJack	Wed, 09 October 2002 04:08
	Re: Why no love for the 4A-C? Bullies!!	Blacki	Wed, 09 October 2002 04:21
	Re: Why no love for the 4A-C? Bullies!!	AE86	Wed, 09 October 2002 04:32
	Re: Why no love for the 4A-C? Bullies!!	haggis	Wed, 09 October 2002 06:50
	Re: Why no love for the 4A-C? Bullies!!	Hunty	Wed, 09 October 2002 07:06
	Re: Why no love for the 4A-C? Bullies!!	familiagtx	Wed, 09 October 2002 09:35
	Re: Why no love for the 4A-C? Bullies!!	St3ve_AE92	Wed, 09 October 2002 09:48
	Re: Why no love for the 4A-C? Bullies!!	mrshin	Wed, 09 October 2002 10:21
	Re: Why no love for the 4A-C? Bullies!!	EVOSTi	Wed, 09 October 2002 11:33
	Re: Why no love for the 4A-C? Bullies!!	t_temperley	Wed, 09 October 2002 11:40
	Re: Why no love for the 4A-C? Bullies!!	St3ve_AE92	Wed, 09 October 2002 11:46
	Re: Why no love for the 4A-C? Bullies!!	IRA11Y	Fri, 11 October 2002 07:35
	Re: Why no love for the 4A-C? Bullies!!	Singlecam	Sun, 13 October 2002 07:03
	Re: Why no love for the 4A-C? Bullies!!	IRA11Y	Sun, 13 October 2002 11:03
	Re: Why no love for the 4A-C? Bullies!!	AE86	Fri, 11 October 2002 08:01
	Re: Why no love for the 4A-C? Bullies!!	jazae86	Fri, 11 October 2002 16:42
	Re: Why no love for the 4A-C? Bullies!!	FLY PSI	Sat, 12 October 2002 02:48
	Re: Why no love for the 4A-C? Bullies!!	jazae86	Sat, 12 October 2002 08:06
	Re: Why no love for the 4A-C? Bullies!!	Blacki	Mon, 14 October 2002 01:04
	Re: Why no love for the 4A-C? Bullies!!	Singlecam	Mon, 14 October 2002 06:07
	Re: Why no love for the 4A-C? Bullies!!	IRA11Y	Mon, 14 October 2002 06:15
	Re: Why no love for the 4A-C? Bullies!!	IRA11Y	Mon, 14 October 2002 06:23
	Re: Why no love for the 4A-C? Bullies!!	Singlecam	Mon, 14 October 2002 06:51
	Re: Why no love for the 4A-C? Bullies!!	Classique71	Mon, 14 October 2002 10:09
	Re: Why no love for the 4A-C? Bullies!!	IRA11Y	Mon, 14 October 2002 11:19
	Re: Why no love for the 4A-C? Bullies!!	Rex_Kelway	Mon, 14 October 2002 13:41
	Re: Why no love for the 4A-C? Bullies!!	AE86	Mon, 14 October 2002 17:03
	Re: Why no love for the 4A-C? Bullies!!	Rex_Kelway	Tue, 15 October 2002 05:39
	Re: Why no love for the 4A-C? Bullies!!	AE86	Tue, 15 October 2002 09:30
	Re: Why no love for the 4A-C? Bullies!!	chrisss	Tue, 15 October 2002 10:06
	Re: Why no love for the 4A-C? Bullies!!	bliz	Tue, 15 October 2002 10:17
	Re: Why no love for the 4A-C? Bullies!!	AE86	Tue, 15 October 2002 11:21
	Re: Why no love for the 4A-C? Bullies!!	bliz	Tue, 15 October 2002 11:33
	Re: Why no love for the 4A-C? Bullies!!	IRA11Y	Wed, 16 October 2002 10:29
	Re: Why no love for the 4A-C? Bullies!!	bliz	Thu, 17 October 2002 00:18
	Re: Why no love for the 4A-C? Bullies!!	chrisss	Thu, 17 October 2002 10:07
	Re: Why no love for the 4A-C? Bullies!!	bliz	Thu, 17 October 2002 13:28
	Re: Why no love for the 4A-C? Bullies!!	IRA11Y	Sat, 19 October 2002 03:00
	Re: Why no love for the 4A-C? Bullies!!	IRA11Y	Mon, 21 April 2003 23:37
	Re: Why no love for the 4A-C? Bullies!!	biased99	Fri, 18 October 2002 10:10
	Re: Why no love for the 4A-C? Bullies!!	bliz	Fri, 18 October 2002 14:39
	Re: Why no love for the 4A-C? Bullies!!	biased99	Sat, 19 October 2002 10:07
	Re: Why no love for the 4A-C? Bullies!!	Rex_Kelway	Sat, 19 October 2002 07:56
	Re: Why no love for the 4A-C? Bullies!!	bliz	Sat, 19 October 2002 09:30
	Re: Why no love for the 4A-C? Bullies!!	bliz	Sat, 19 October 2002 10:57
	Re: Why no love for the 4A-C? Bullies!!	mrshin	Sun, 20 October 2002 11:16
	Re: Why no love for the 4A-C? Bullies!!	biased99	Sun, 20 October 2002 23:44
	Re: Why no love for the 4A-C? Bullies!!	wilbo666	Mon, 21 October 2002 00:22
	Re: Why no love for the 4A-C? Bullies!!	bliz	Mon, 21 October 2002 02:05
	Re: Why no love for the 4A-C? Bullies!!	IRA11Y	Mon, 21 October 2002 06:08
	Re: Why no love for the 4A-C? Bullies!!	FLY PSI	Tue, 22 October 2002 11:49
	Re: Why no love for the 4A-C? Bullies!!	mrshin	Mon, 21 October 2002 13:43
	Re: Why no love for the 4A-C? Bullies!!	biased99	Mon, 21 October 2002 23:05
	Re: Why no love for the 4A-C? Bullies!!	bliz	Tue, 22 October 2002 00:23
	Re: Why no love for the 4A-C? Bullies!!	FLY PSI	Tue, 22 October 2002 01:22
	Re: Why no love for the 4A-C? Bullies!!	Blacki	Tue, 22 October 2002 01:37
	Re: Why no love for the 4A-C? Bullies!!	mrshin	Tue, 22 October 2002 01:40
	Re: Why no love for the 4A-C? Bullies!!	mrshin	Tue, 22 October 2002 01:53
	Re: Why no love for the 4A-C? Bullies!!	mrshin	Tue, 22 October 2002 01:55
	Re: Why no love for the 4A-C? Bullies!!	Blacki	Tue, 22 October 2002 02:05
	Re: Why no love for the 4A-C? Bullies!!	mrshin	Tue, 22 October 2002 02:07
	Re: Why no love for the 4A-C? Bullies!!	bliz	Tue, 22 October 2002 14:24
	Re: Why no love for the 4A-C? Bullies!!	IRA11Y	Wed, 23 October 2002 07:01
	Re: Why no love for the 4A-C? Bullies!!	FLY PSI	Wed, 23 October 2002 07:39
	Re: Why no love for the 4A-C? Bullies!!	poida	Sun, 24 November 2002 04:28
	Re: Why no love for the 4A-C? Bullies!!	bliz	Wed, 23 October 2002 07:32
	Re: Why no love for the 4A-C? Bullies!!	bliz	Sat, 23 November 2002 23:37
	Re: Why no love for the 4A-C? Bullies!!	mrshin	Sun, 24 November 2002 22:06
	Re: Why no love for the 4A-C? Bullies!!	Singlecam	Mon, 25 November 2002 16:04
	Re: Why no love for the 4A-C? Bullies!!	Singlecam	Mon, 25 November 2002 16:07
	Re: Why no love for the 4A-C? Bullies!!	turbokid	Wed, 27 November 2002 05:35
	Re: Why no love for the 4A-C? Bullies!!	bliz	Wed, 27 November 2002 05:42
	Re: Why no love for the 4A-C? Bullies!!	wilbo666	Wed, 27 November 2002 06:07
	Re: Why no love for the 4A-C? Bullies!!	THE WITZL	Wed, 27 November 2002 22:28
	Re: Why no love for the 4A-C? Bullies!!	haggis	Wed, 23 April 2003 04:05
	Re: Why no love for the 4A-C? Bullies!!	BillusMcFlunday	Fri, 15 July 2005 06:21
	Re: Why no love for the 4A-C? Bullies!!	draven	Fri, 15 July 2005 06:26
	Re: Why no love for the 4A-C? Bullies!!	Corona RT142	Fri, 15 July 2005 06:29
	Re: Why no love for the 4A-C? Bullies!!	Merudo	Fri, 15 July 2005 06:30
	Re: Why no love for the 4A-C? Bullies!!	oldcorollas	Fri, 15 July 2005 07:38
	Re: Why no love for the 4A-C? Bullies!!	ViPeR_NiPPleX	Sat, 16 July 2005 00:02
	Re: Why no love for the 4A-C? Bullies!!	kingmick	Sat, 16 July 2005 23:05

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