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Registered: March 2003
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Track Days At Mallala **CANCELED**
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Sun, 17 October 2004 07:23
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**CANCELED**
Unfortunately it looks like it will be thunderstorms and rain on Friday, like much of the week. The track may still be open but I may not be attending.
I'll be organising another one though. Most likely on a Saturday so more people can go.
Mallala Practice Day: Friday 12th of November
Everyone is invited. Please read the following posts for more information.
Cost: $70 cash
Time: 10am and 15 min sessions start from 10:30am to 5pm.
Bring: Normal license, cash, helmet (motobike helmet is ok), full tank of petrol, food/drink, maybe extra tyres. Video and Still cameras, perhaps a stopwatch.
Wear: Long sleeves, pants. Cotton, no 100% synthetics.
Maintenance: Newish brake pads, serviced and roadworthy car. Mallala is hard on brakes.
This is not a CAMS sanctioned event, be warned motorsport is dangerous. Pace yourself do not go beyond your envelope.
You do not need, but I recomend:
Fire Extinguisher
Bonnet strap
Blue Triangle Battery Marking
Currently attending:
Danish -Driving
Arch?
big JON -Maybe Driving
genkin
ShAkEn
bbaacchhyy?
Patr1c?
FWDboy?
[CatchMe] -Maybe Spectating
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[Updated on: Tue, 09 November 2004 14:07]
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Location: South Australia
Registered: July 2002
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Re: Track Days At Mallala
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Sun, 17 October 2004 07:44
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I think most people here aren't all that keen on motorsport and the like. Except for the sprintah dudes and their dorifto obsession
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Registered: March 2003
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Re: Track Days At Mallala
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Sun, 17 October 2004 07:57
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Well what's the point in having a powerful car.
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Location: South Australia
Registered: July 2002
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Re: Track Days At Mallala
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Sun, 17 October 2004 08:54
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So you can go to the dragstrip and then brag about quarter mile times
I'm more of a rally-dude myself but if I had a better set-up car and some more money for tyres etc I'd love to go up to mallala and do some lapping.
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Banned user
Location: ADELAIDE - The Drift City
Registered: July 2002
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Re: Track Days At Mallala
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Sun, 17 October 2004 08:59
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its not that no ones interested in track days, its just finding the time and money to do it
im keen for a track day once the drift car is finished, i wanna see what sort of time the car can clock on lala
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Location: Adelaide
Registered: January 2004
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Re: Track Days At Mallala
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Sun, 17 October 2004 09:14
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id be keen for a grip run too
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Location: adelaide
Registered: April 2003
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Re: Track Days At Mallala
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Sun, 17 October 2004 09:35
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better turn this to planning or the thread'll get locked/moved, cos we know that the NSW boys are gonna be keen to go to mallala........
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Registered: March 2003
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Re: Track Days At Mallala
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Sun, 17 October 2004 09:45
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Ok well I'll look into it and give a selection of days etc and requirements.
Some time after the 23rd.
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Banned user
Location: ADELAIDE - The Drift City
Registered: July 2002
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Re: Track Days At Mallala
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Sun, 17 October 2004 10:11
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see theres a date now its a planned event
suck on that mods
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Registered: March 2003
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Re: Track Days At Mallala
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Sun, 17 October 2004 10:15
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On the same note, who has been on a sprint/track/clubday (not a drift day, as it's different) and can fill in what is needed.
I had a few links to the Porsche and Soarer club that had details on what you needed to do to your car and type of helmets needed. I'll see if I can dig them up, scrutineering details etc.
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Banned user
Location: ADELAIDE - The Drift City
Registered: July 2002
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Re: Track Days At Mallala
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Sun, 17 October 2004 10:19
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drift day and prac day at mallala is the same scruiteneering
since prac trac time is not a speed event under cams rules.
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Location: South Australia
Registered: July 2002
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Re: Track Days At Mallala
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Sun, 17 October 2004 11:34
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The mods aren't totally evil btw
Simon - yeah time and money is the main factor.
But it does seem like there is a bit of scarcity of motorsport nuts around here...
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Banned user
Location: ADELAIDE - The Drift City
Registered: July 2002
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Re: Track Days At Mallala
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Sun, 17 October 2004 12:59
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get into drift mate
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I supported Toymods
Location: Adelaide
Registered: July 2004
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Re: Track Days At Mallala
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Sun, 17 October 2004 23:14
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IM IN IM IN IM IN IM IN!!!!
Been itching to get the soarer out on the track and come on people its $50 for 4 runs on a saturday afternoon, you dont need a fire extinguisher, you dont need teh blue stickers, all you need is a road worthy car and an ability to rock up at lala
Danish is the 23rd of Nov when its happening?
That will give me time to source some supra brakes, cos autos and tracks arent very nice with pissy brakes
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Location: Adelaide
Registered: September 2004
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Re: Track Days At Mallala
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Mon, 18 October 2004 01:02
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Auto's and lala arent easy on brakes...actually lala alone isnt easy on brakes.
Im hell keen for a track day, its just a matter of when it is and whether i can afford it...but if its only $50 for an arvo then its probly worth $100 with petty and tyres, but thats still pretty cheap fun.
Youd hafta wear a helmet, long sleeves and long pants. Also, we dont need a battery sticker, or a fire extinguisher...is that right??
Jon
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Location: Adelaide
Registered: January 2004
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Re: Track Days At Mallala
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Mon, 18 October 2004 01:04
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Count me in for a track day!
don't mean to ruin your plans Danish, but I reckon it would be cool if lots of the 86 guys had a track time showdown
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I supported Toymods
Location: SA; Home of Car Scene BS
Registered: January 2004
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Re: Track Days At Mallala
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Mon, 18 October 2004 01:06
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if we gte enough people interested in this sort of thing then when the club is up and rolling, graham and i will organise track days for u....
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I supported Toymods
Location: Adelaide
Registered: July 2004
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Re: Track Days At Mallala
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Mon, 18 October 2004 01:44
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no offence stef but we want to go to the track this year.
23rd it is?
what you people think?
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Location: adelaide
Registered: April 2003
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Re: Track Days At Mallala
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Mon, 18 October 2004 03:54
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im in for a track day!!!!
im more of a rally man but, hachi fun is hachi fun.
will it be a private thing?
even for a cams 'come and try' day u need lots of stuff.
stuff= bonnet catch, batt sticker, 2l oil catch can, fire ext...blah blah
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I supported Toymods
Location: Adelaide
Registered: July 2004
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Re: Track Days At Mallala
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Mon, 18 October 2004 03:56
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no you dont need shit at these ones because you arent being timed, all you need is the helmet
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Location: SA
Registered: May 2002
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Re: Track Days At Mallala
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Mon, 18 October 2004 05:24
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Someone tell me what racing techniques in drifting you dont use in Rally?
Will be up for a track day as soon as the cars running. If not will come out in the ke70 for a hoot.
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Registered: March 2003
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Re: Track Days At Mallala
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Mon, 18 October 2004 05:46
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Yes It will be some time after the 23rd within the following month.
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Toymods Vice President
Location: Sydney
Registered: May 2002
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Re: Track Days At Mallala
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Mon, 18 October 2004 07:10
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Cheers Joshstix!
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Location: Adelaide
Registered: January 2004
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Registered: March 2003
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Re: Track Days At Mallala
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Mon, 18 October 2004 09:12
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What's the point... it's fun.
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Location: Adelaide
Registered: September 2004
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Re: Track Days At Mallala
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Mon, 18 October 2004 11:28
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Arch wrote on Mon, 18 October 2004 18:25 |
genkin wrote on Mon, 18 October 2004 10:34 | Count me in for a track day!
don't mean to ruin your plans Danish, but I reckon it would be cool if lots of the 86 guys had a track time showdown
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AE86 BATTLE!!!!!!!!!
how good would it be.. oh man we gotta do that
Edit: what do u mean not being timed? if we arent being timed whats the point of a grip run?
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Yeah i was thinking that, while i want to get out on the lala i want a time so i know how i go....
Jon
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Banned user
Location: ADELAIDE - The Drift City
Registered: July 2002
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Re: Track Days At Mallala
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Mon, 18 October 2004 11:45
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gimmy my toy!
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Registered: March 2003
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Re: Track Days At Mallala
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Mon, 18 October 2004 11:58
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Everyone is welcome, all types of cars. I don't care. Just thought it would be good to have some familiar people along.
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Location: Adelaide
Registered: September 2004
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Re: Track Days At Mallala
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Mon, 18 October 2004 12:26
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Put me down, ill be there with bells on...on the 12th that is...and my bells will be the stupid chime i havent disabled yet that comes on when im doing more then 105 kays!
Jon
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Re: Track Days At Mallala
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Mon, 18 October 2004 12:33
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Well that's two for the 12th, and I still have my speed chime on so I'll be driving angry.
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Location: SA
Registered: July 2004
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Re: Track Days At Mallala
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Mon, 18 October 2004 13:04
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Fitting your car with some semi metalic pads is a very good idea if you are going to do a few laps, most road cars will run out of brakes after a lap or even before as mallas is extremely hard on brakes. Id recommend fresh break fluid also. I did a 1:34.8 in my roady ra28 which is ok for a reasonably standard car but tyre grip is a big factor. I took my dads ta22 rally car for a quick few laps and did a 1:28.7 which is a little slow for the car but a few more laps should see a 26 or so. Its alot more fun with big brakes, semi slicks and grunt tho
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Re: Track Days At Mallala
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Mon, 18 October 2004 13:13
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That's right Vanquish, whoever I talk to that has been to Mallala always recomends new track pads. Your pads will wear out after a few laps, even new ones if you are pushing hard each corner.
Don't bother with semi slicks, you can pay more than $500 a tyre. Just get out there and have some fun!
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Location: SA
Registered: July 2004
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Re: Track Days At Mallala
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Mon, 18 October 2004 13:36
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Na pad wear isnt really an issue, after 80 laps i wore a new set of pads to the backing plate so a sprint or two wont hurt em. The brakes just get so faaaarken hot and dont pull up, brake fluid can boil also.
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Location: South Australia
Registered: July 2002
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Re: Track Days At Mallala
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Mon, 18 October 2004 13:40
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Have a CAMS L2S license, does that help
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Re: Track Days At Mallala
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Mon, 18 October 2004 13:43
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FWDboy, yes sure, means you can go along with the Porche club and get timed laps. But it also means you have to pay a bit more.
From what the Soarer boys tell me brake pad wear is an issue for our heavier and more powerful cars.
They also say, once you have finished your session, do not stop drive out of Mallala and cruise down the road for a few minutes, then back again to cool down the brakes. This will also be good for your engine and turbos.
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Location: SA
Registered: July 2004
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Re: Track Days At Mallala
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Mon, 18 October 2004 13:50
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yea spot on. those turbos must get daim hot!
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Location: Adelaide
Registered: September 2003
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Re: Track Days At Mallala
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Mon, 18 October 2004 21:08
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Hi Danish,
Got your PM, and when the car is going, the answer is a definite yes.
It will still be a little while though.
I echo the sentiments re the brakes, and advise people to make sure their DISCS as well as their pads (invest in a decent set) is a must for Mallala
Cheers
Michael B
PS If I can, I'll try and come out and watch at least.
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I supported Toymods
Location: Adelaide
Registered: July 2004
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Re: Track Days At Mallala
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Mon, 18 October 2004 23:22
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12th sounds good danish
I think we should set thursday aside for removing of the speed bell as that could get rather annoying
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Location: South Australia
Registered: July 2002
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Re: Track Days At Mallala
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Tue, 19 October 2004 01:42
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I probably won't make it as currently my brakes are crap and I don't have the money to fork out for some new discs and pads Discs are currently too warped and the pads are too 'street' (ie the suck after braking hard just a few times in succession from high speed) had to fork out $210 for rebuilding the front calipers just recently anyway!
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I supported Toymods
Location: Adelaide
Registered: July 2004
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Re: Track Days At Mallala
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Tue, 19 October 2004 01:44
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dont be gay, you hafta come!
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Location: Adelaide
Registered: September 2004
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Re: Track Days At Mallala
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Tue, 19 October 2004 04:56
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MR 1GGTE wrote on Tue, 19 October 2004 08:52 | 12th sounds good danish
I think we should set thursday aside for removing of the speed bell as that could get rather annoying
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I so agree with this!!!!
I didnt realise it was a friday, and if we do this on the thursday ill hafta organise two days off!!!
Jon
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I supported Toymods
Location: Adelaide
Registered: July 2004
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Re: Track Days At Mallala
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Tue, 19 October 2004 05:05
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big JON wrote on Tue, 19 October 2004 14:26 |
MR 1GGTE wrote on Tue, 19 October 2004 08:52 | 12th sounds good danish
I think we should set thursday aside for removing of the speed bell as that could get rather annoying
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I so agree with this!!!!
I didnt realise it was a friday, and if we do this on the thursday ill hafta organise two days off!!!
Jon
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its dash removal stuff you do realise this dont you big jon?
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Location: Adelaide, SA
Registered: May 2002
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Re: Track Days At Mallala
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Tue, 19 October 2004 05:07
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Hmm.. I'll come along if I have my suspension, brakes, intercooler and BOV done in time!
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Re: Track Days At Mallala
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Tue, 19 October 2004 06:39
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Hehe yeah maybe, but you know how lazy I am about little things like that.
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Location: South Australia
Registered: July 2002
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Re: Track Days At Mallala
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Tue, 19 October 2004 06:50
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Quote: | dont be gay, you hafta come!
| I'm not gay, just metro
Nah I would really like to come, but I think my braking style is like Henri Toivonen's (RIP) and I'd be stuffed after a lap or two I'll try to get the money together for some front discs and pads (screw the rears) and get out there but I don't think I'll be able to get the cash in time!
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Location: Adelaide
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Re: Track Days At Mallala
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Tue, 19 October 2004 09:50
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MR 1GGTE wrote on Tue, 19 October 2004 14:35 |
big JON wrote on Tue, 19 October 2004 14:26 |
MR 1GGTE wrote on Tue, 19 October 2004 08:52 | 12th sounds good danish
I think we should set thursday aside for removing of the speed bell as that could get rather annoying
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I so agree with this!!!!
I didnt realise it was a friday, and if we do this on the thursday ill hafta organise two days off!!!
Jon
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its dash removal stuff you do realise this dont you big jon?
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yes, i do. and believe you me, i really need that little chime to mcfuck off...its sooooooo annoying. But also, im not gonna like pulling my dash apart...it looks too much like hard work!!!
big JON
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I supported Toymods
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Re: Track Days At Mallala
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Tue, 19 October 2004 10:30
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big JON wrote on Tue, 19 October 2004 19:20 |
MR 1GGTE wrote on Tue, 19 October 2004 14:35 |
big JON wrote on Tue, 19 October 2004 14:26 |
MR 1GGTE wrote on Tue, 19 October 2004 08:52 | 12th sounds good danish
I think we should set thursday aside for removing of the speed bell as that could get rather annoying
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I so agree with this!!!!
I didnt realise it was a friday, and if we do this on the thursday ill hafta organise two days off!!!
Jon
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its dash removal stuff you do realise this dont you big jon?
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yes, i do. and believe you me, i really need that little chime to mcfuck off...its sooooooo annoying. But also, im not gonna like pulling my dash apart...it looks too much like hard work!!!
big JON
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Then again I just installed a killa stereo, thats right i said it, its killa!
So i cant really hear teh chime anymore
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Location: Adelaide
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Re: Track Days At Mallala
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Tue, 19 October 2004 11:10
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MR 1GGTE wrote on Tue, 19 October 2004 20:00 |
big JON wrote on Tue, 19 October 2004 19:20 |
MR 1GGTE wrote on Tue, 19 October 2004 14:35 |
big JON wrote on Tue, 19 October 2004 14:26 |
MR 1GGTE wrote on Tue, 19 October 2004 08:52 | 12th sounds good danish
I think we should set thursday aside for removing of the speed bell as that could get rather annoying
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I so agree with this!!!!
I didnt realise it was a friday, and if we do this on the thursday ill hafta organise two days off!!!
Jon
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its dash removal stuff you do realise this dont you big jon?
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yes, i do. and believe you me, i really need that little chime to mcfuck off...its sooooooo annoying. But also, im not gonna like pulling my dash apart...it looks too much like hard work!!!
big JON
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Then again I just installed a killa stereo, thats right i said it, its killa!
So i cant really hear teh chime anymore
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Haha, yeah im trying to figure out still how im gonna do my stereo...its not happening too fast at the moment tho...grrrrr.
Jon
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Location: sideways
Registered: September 2004
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Re: Track Days At Mallala
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Tue, 19 October 2004 12:44
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Track day @ Mallala requires:
1. Bonnet Strap to hold bonnet down
2. Fire Extinguisher
3. Battery Marking (triangle above battery for safety crew)
4. Tape over glass (eg. headlights)
5. Helmet
6. Long sleeve clothing, non flamable.
7. Road worthy car (brakes good, no leaks etc)
Be with a club - eg. Porsche club
Have 2S CAMs license, provided through porsche club.
Stef, you wont get enough to pay for the event. Your better of to tag along with Porsche club, as the WRX club does. Check www.wrxsa.com for details on the next events, or my site www.turbo-a.net
Jon : make a door bell from ur dash.
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I supported Toymods
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Re: Track Days At Mallala
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Tue, 19 October 2004 14:25
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turbo-a wrote on Tue, 19 October 2004 22:14 | Track day @ Mallala requires:
1. Bonnet Strap to hold bonnet down
2. Fire Extinguisher
3. Battery Marking (triangle above battery for safety crew)
4. Tape over glass (eg. headlights)
5. Helmet
6. Long sleeve clothing, non flamable.
7. Road worthy car (brakes good, no leaks etc)
Be with a club - eg. Porsche club
Have 2S CAMs license, provided through porsche club.
Stef, you wont get enough to pay for the event. Your better of to tag along with Porsche club, as the WRX club does. Check www.wrxsa.com for details on the next events, or my site www.turbo-a.net
Jon : make a door bell from ur dash.
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clubmanmc filled you in did he?
anyways as danish said none of that is needed becuase we arent being officially timed, but i intend on having someone in the stands timing me
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Re: Track Days At Mallala
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Wed, 20 October 2004 14:22
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I've spoken to Clubman, but no the info came from CAMs.
I spoke to them to make sure my car will pass the scruteniering.
I'll post more info once Ive done the event on my site. Including video from outside, and depending how strict they are, inside too. (lots of gaffa tape
The free days are as they sound, free days, they are run once a month from record with a rotation of bikes, gokarts and cars. I'm keen for printouts tho, it's the only way to know ur faster.
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Location: Adelaide, SA
Registered: June 2003
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Re: Track Days At Mallala
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Thu, 21 October 2004 01:20
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Theres a reason you dont need all the safety gear for a practise day, and its because they're not CAMS sanctioned, hence doesn't have to comply with CAMS rules. This also means no Liability Insurance on your behalf.
Further, no scrutineering means you have no guarantee that the car tailgating you at 180 actually has brakes. Or that the one in front isnt about to drop a shitload of oil at the next apex because his sump plug is really a wine cork.
Mallala's not safe. You do high speeds within metres of solid concrete walls and 2 tonne flying metal boulders (other cars)...
that happened 2 months ago, and no he wasnt being an idiot, it can just happen to anyone
You'd all be much better waiting for a CAMS event. Yes it's more expensive, but its safer, and its timed. The open day when that photo occurred they had the HQ & Falcon Sedans out there doing practise in amongst slow road cars, and with 32 cars on a 1.2? kilometre track all doing high speeds.... well you do the math. Coincidentally though, the next time out was apparently dead, no bikes, no racers practising just a couple of Soarer blokes. So it really is a hit or miss affair. (A CAMS event will list the max number of cars that will be allowed on the track during a session.)
As for car prep, have near new pads (esp if youre going out in a newer Soarer... I cant say i know much about the older ones), and recently changed brake fluid (within 6-12 mths - but make sure its full). Also ensure all fluids are at the full mark (trans, power steering, engine oil, headlight fluid). And if you've got an auto make sure it doesnt get too hot because heat will kill it. If the fluids boiling, don't go back out. Don't inflate tyres to their maximum capacity, because as the heat gets into them the pressures will rise, taking them above what they can safely hold. 40-45psi is about right and about what most people think a street car needs anyway Dont bother with nitrogen inflation etc etc. If it was me Id still have a battery triangle and a fire extinguisher on my car going out there but if youre on a budget it's up to you.
Oh yeah, and for those saying Mallala is fairly hard on brakes... it is renowned as the hardest track for brakes in Australia! Look at a map of the circuit and you'll see fast straights with relatively slow corners...
Anyway enough blabbering. For those interested in a CAMS event I know of a Regularity on the 28th of November and I think Sprints are on the 5th of December. There's probably other things on in between as well.
Anyhow if you still decide to go out I'll come out later on and take lots of photos if its a nice day
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Re: Track Days At Mallala
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Thu, 21 October 2004 04:12
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You are scaring people now, but thanks for the info. I think I'll give it ago a few times first, then if I like it i'll do it the CAMS way.
I don't think I'd like to be on the track with many cars at once. You're right, no scrutineering means nana's 120Y can race.
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Re: Track Days At Mallala
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Thu, 21 October 2004 04:34
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This is the link that I was originally looking for:
http://planetsoarer.com/trackday/trackday.htm
Set up for CAMS events at Mallala. Some tips can also be taken for the non CAMS practice days.
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Location: Adelaide
Registered: September 2004
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Re: Track Days At Mallala
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Thu, 21 October 2004 13:12
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Nice essay Sanj.
people should listen to what others say instead of telling them that they're scaring people, most times wha tother people have to say are the facts, and that way people dont get mislead.
Im still gonna be going out, but im gonna be going at my own speed and taking my own time, im there to have fun, not win any medals trying
Jon
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Re: Track Days At Mallala
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Thu, 21 October 2004 13:19
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big JON wrote on Thu, 21 October 2004 22:42 | Nice essay Sanj.
people should listen to what others say instead of telling them that they're scaring people, most times wha tother people have to say are the facts, and that way people dont get mislead.
Im still gonna be going out, but im gonna be going at my own speed and taking my own time, im there to have fun, not win any medals trying
Jon
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I think most of us are going to be taking our time and learning, hence why I dont care about being timed.
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