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vented 4 pot brakes
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Tue, 21 May 2002 22:53
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As a result of a prior posting , I'm making up a few sets of big brakes for Sprinters. These are 266 x 24mm vented discs with 4 piston calipers, modelled off my race car. I now have a pattern for the adaptors for the RA40 struts, and can do these if anyone wants. Kit prices vary from $500-$750 depending on exact specs you want. If you want them for SA60,Supra etc, I may be able to help there also. call me on 0417-687161 for info. alternatively, weekend only 07-38143762. If you want to fit these on a road car, you should get a modification plate from relevant State transport authority. Terry
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Re: vented 4 pot brakes
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Mon, 01 July 2002 10:36
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How is it going just aquick question? Can you make the struts for a ta 22 strut or will a ra 40 be the same also what calipers do you use. thanks .
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Re: vented 4 pot brakes
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Mon, 01 July 2002 14:03
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I'm also interested in the TA22 setup! I might give him a call tomorrow.
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Re: vented 4 pot brakes
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Tue, 02 July 2002 04:23
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guys, I've sold most of the stuff I had. I'm still trying to sort prior orders so I dont want any more today. Basically, I can fit them to any Toyota strut. The ones I offered were based around welded brackets as used for +10 years on my race cars. If you want 1 piece brackets to pass a RTA or Qld T'port test,, then the price goes up a lot as there is 4-5 hours machine time /bracket. I can make with bigger discs but 26mm is fine for fast road cars and even did a few bathurst stints. The fitment on the RA 40 /ST141 struts with the bigger stub axle is easier/cheaper. call me when you have cash waiting to spend on brakes.
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Re: vented 4 pot brakes
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Tue, 02 July 2002 08:58
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Well put 
I'll be giving you some cash for some bigger brakes in the near future!
By the way i was the dude that rand you today! Shane.
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Re: vented 4 pot brakes
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Wed, 03 July 2002 01:55
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I have no ideas about big brakes on early corollas. will have to look. i cannot imagine it to be good idea unless you change the tiny strut legs and stub axle they have. I am getting more caliper brackets made now for fitting Nissan alloy 4 pot calipers onto my 266mm discs & later Sprinter strut legs. Any takers??
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Re: vented 4 pot brakes
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Wed, 03 July 2002 01:58
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Cool... sounds like I will be talking to you soon....
I would like to fit these upgardes to my corona RT132 and RT142, would the upgrades just bolt on pretty much?
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Re: vented 4 pot brakes
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Wed, 03 July 2002 02:07
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Sorry guys, but I dont know the intimate details of each model. Basically there are 3 different stub axle sixes. The sprinter uses the middle size, 85 on coronas & celicas use larger ones. The large stub axle ones also have a different bolt pattern holding the caliper bracket to the strut. I have patterns for the 2 "big" sizes. The easiest/cheapest is adding brakes to the latter corona/celica/cressida strut. I suggest you guys with older cars look at the wreckers for a suitable "big axle" strut, and we'll go from there. I suggest you mostly look at RA40 celicas & others of this vintage, and make sure the strut has a bolt on (not integral) caliper bracket. Take care and make sure the ball joint bolts are the same. Also, make sure stut is same length as what you now have ,give or take a few mm. See technical article on Toymods for info.!!
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Re: vented 4 pot brakes
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Wed, 03 July 2002 08:46
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Terry, Are you able to modify diffs? Say a borg warner type? I would like to fit one of these items to my TA22 with big brakes of corse!
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Re: vented 4 pot brakes
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Wed, 03 July 2002 22:42
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yes, but I dont want any more work today. email me in a few weeks once current load of mods are finished. I already have designed a big-brake kit for rear of sprinter and it wont take much work to convert to BW axle. The only likely snag is handbrake cable and I wont know about this till I look at the car involved.
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Re: vented 4 pot brakes
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Thu, 04 July 2002 08:33
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No worries mate! Whats your email address? I guess it would be easier if I source a Diff first?
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Re: vented 4 pot brakes
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Thu, 04 July 2002 08:43
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COOL1 why dont you get a TRX series 3 diff. They are the same width as a celica diff, 8 3.4in with discs and same stud pattern.(borg warner with pull out centre) The 720 Nissan utes have the same diffs and some have lsd as well. Just have to change the mounts over. I got one last week and im changing the mounts on saturday. stronger than the commonmodore ones aswell.
Jamie.
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Re: vented 4 pot brakes
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Thu, 04 July 2002 08:49
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Your kidding me?
What size ar the disks? Same brakes on the TRX and the 720?
So if I got one of these, I can grab an LSD out of a dunnydoor and fit it in the TRX item?
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Re: vented 4 pot brakes
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Thu, 04 July 2002 09:51
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The TRX has pretty big discs but i think the 720 has drums. Some 720's have the lsd not all. The TRX diff had banjo type centre not like the commodore ones so they are not interchangeable. Ill post some pics next week of mine. They are the best option for a TA22 in my opinion its justthe $1000 most wreckers ask for them is a bit steep
Jamie
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Re: vented 4 pot brakes
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Thu, 04 July 2002 09:54
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a $1000 ouch!
Can ya get an LSD for the Banjo?
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Re: vented 4 pot brakes
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Thu, 04 July 2002 10:22
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whats a banjo center?
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Re: vented 4 pot brakes
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Thu, 04 July 2002 12:37
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What do you mean?
The center is changable is it not?
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Re: vented 4 pot brakes
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Fri, 05 July 2002 00:11
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what make sprinter so nice to drive is its light weight and balance. IMHO the entire balance and feel of the car is wrecked by putting overly heavy parts in it. Nissan 720 ute--you have to be joking!!! Even the TRX was a truck in comparison with Sprinter. If you want a nissan diff, look for the works Stanza LSD diffs with the alloy nose cone.
my 7.1" LSD survived several bathurst 1000's + meetings in between. I'll admit the 6.7" is a bit fragile, but mostly they broke in the LSD cross, not the crown wheel.
the celica housing is beteween 10 and 18mm wider depending on model. Also, its much heavier. you neeed different offset rims front and rear if you use a celica diff.
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Re: vented 4 pot brakes
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Fri, 05 July 2002 00:35
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I'm interested in doing a bit of draaag racing! So i'm going to need a diff that can withstand some reasonable lanches!
So what do you recomend for this application?
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Re: vented 4 pot brakes
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Fri, 05 July 2002 00:49
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how much torque will the engine develop??
put simply, drag cars will never handle on the road well cause of the weight imbalance. light cars with heavy mechanicals simply dont match.
easy fix is buy a bomb falcon for dragging and leave the sprinter alone.
more seriously, the Borg-warner diff in coronas can be altered for a sprinter and fitted with LSD or locker.
A mini-spool (locked diff) is what you need for drags
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Re: vented 4 pot brakes
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Fri, 05 July 2002 00:58
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Good question about the torque!
I'll be using a slightly worked 3S-GTE!
So you recommend a Borg Warner diff out of a Corona?
What model Corona are we talking about?
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Re: vented 4 pot brakes
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Fri, 05 July 2002 02:00
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IMHO you are wacko!. A worked 3SGTE can develop 400-500hp. you need a shortened hilux 8" with spool centre to live in this environment. refer my earlier comment about stuffing up handling.
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Re: vented 4 pot brakes
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Fri, 05 July 2002 02:15
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LOL. I was originally going to use a hilux diff but had no idear about fitting disk brakes with the toyota stud patten!
Can you do this?
The Hilux diff does'nt really need to be shortened does it?
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Re: vented 4 pot brakes
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Fri, 05 July 2002 06:42
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I've not found a hilux with correct width. maybe they exist somewhere.
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Re: vented 4 pot brakes
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Mon, 08 July 2002 02:00
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The link to the old forums has gone now I think, but there was a lot of talk on there about using a "G series" hilux diff!
I was told many times that this would fit (using the wheels with the correct offset of course)
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Re: vented 4 pot brakes
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Mon, 08 July 2002 02:41
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suggest you go look at one , equipped with a tape and bathroom scales. you see what I mean about heavy!
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Re: vented 4 pot brakes
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Mon, 08 July 2002 03:36
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I understand what your saying about the diff being heavy! But is'nt that the price you pay for something thats going to handle power/torque?
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Re: vented 4 pot brakes
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Mon, 08 July 2002 08:13
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Terry do you have any idea or what?? If you looked at Cool1's avatar you would see he owns a TA22 not a Sprinter and if you think a 7.1in will handle any decent power and abuse then you are sorely mistaken.
Are you willing to offer warranty on a 7.1 behind a worked 3TGTEU or 3SGTE??? I dont think so. They may be ok for track work in a sprinter with less than 200hp atw but in no way will they handle any decent power.
I am offering cool1 advice as i have been tossing up over what diff to use in my car for a long time and the TRX is the best all round and will save alot of money in the future. I am not trying to sell him shit like you are. If you took the time to see what car he had and what engine he was going to use before trying to make your shit sound the best you would have realised your option was inadequate and saved making yourself look like a dick!!!
Cool1 a banjo centre is one which is removed from the tailshaft side like a TA22 one. Commodore borg warner diffs have centres which are removed from the rear. That is why the centres arent interchangable.
$1000 is the price people charge if they know how good the diffs are however like anything shop around and you will find one for under $500 complete. You were also correct a G series hilux diff is the correct width for a TA22 however by the time you consider the cost of retrofitting discs and that is isnt as strong as a TRX diff it becomes clear which one is the best choice.
A TRX diff is also the same in weight if not less than a hilux one only much stronger. Its up to you its your car and your money and i have nothing to gain whichever way you go. I am not trying to sell you one or anything. I just think for what you want its the best option.
Jamie.
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Re: vented 4 pot brakes
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Mon, 08 July 2002 08:41
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Ok so let me clear some things up.
The TRX item has the same center as the Banjo?
If i'm correct, I am guessing you can get aftermarket centers? Say an LSD or maybe even a locker?
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Re: vented 4 pot brakes
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Mon, 08 July 2002 08:54
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The TRX does have a banjo centre. correct. You dont need aftermarket centres. The 720's have lsd's which bolt straight in and can be rebuilt to be almost lockers. I dont know of aftermarket centres as the TRX was no spped machine so there was no calling for it.
Jamie.
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Re: vented 4 pot brakes
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Mon, 08 July 2002 09:02
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I'll have to have a look around sometime and get some prices!
I really dont have time at the moment, damm i'm busy.
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