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DacBietAE86
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KYB Shocks! Mon, 04 August 2003 09:47 Go to next message
Does anyone know how much are KYB shocks for a AE86 sprinter?
I think these are the part No.s

FF 365015
RR 343036
These are the gas shocks from KYB.Correct?

Has anyone got these in their car with king springs?
any good?
and how much are they?

thanks heaps!
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Re: KYB Shocks! Mon, 04 August 2003 13:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
i got kybs on mine, they are good, although my car is too low.

mine are the cheapest kind, non adjustable, try to get 4 for around 350 bucks.
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Re: KYB Shocks! Tue, 05 August 2003 01:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
I got gr2's they are great in my mr2 with standard springs. Hard ride. $380 fitted. Would buy them again any day..
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Re: KYB Shocks! Tue, 05 August 2003 09:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Hey there shinybluesteel

What type of car do you have?
Which type of KYB shock was it?
Do you have a part NO. for them

Thanks
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Re: KYB Shocks! Tue, 05 August 2003 09:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
apparently a friend told me you can revalve them so you can make them more stiffer then other shocks out there on the market for a hella lot less. good for winding roads and those kind of things.
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Re: KYB Shocks! Tue, 05 August 2003 09:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ive got Kyb's in my Mr2.. Friggin BEST value for money...
Not as good as koni's.. but hell..
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Re: KYB Shocks! Tue, 05 August 2003 09:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
sweet, do you think I could get some for my car? and would they be ok with the stock springs? and then if I was to get some better springs about 1'' lower later, that would be ok too?
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Re: KYB Shocks! Tue, 05 August 2003 14:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
DacBietAE86 wrote on Mon, 04 August 2003 19:17



Has anyone got these in their car with king springs?
any good?






Yeh i have KYB red shocks in my ra28, with king springs lowered 1 1/2"... it was the best upgrade ive done!!

Shocks cost me around $340-350 for the set..
Was an excellent investment for the considerable improvement in anti-roll, turn in, and general firmness of the ride. Will always recommend them to people who want a good shock for quite a competetive price, or just in any suspension upgrade.

Can vouch for king springs too, they seem to have held up quite well for me, and also have a fairly stiff spring rate..

Yeh im a lover of driving through the hills and windy roads.. hehe Cool

Love the feel of the car with this setup, glad i spent the money on some quality parts.
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Re: KYB Shocks! Wed, 06 August 2003 00:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
my car is a AE86, with custom made springs,

cant remember what model the shocks were, like i said i think they were the cheapsest and are non adjustable. (EDIT: yeah, they were gas supressed ones)




i got strut inserts for the front, and shocks for the back.

i really have to get new springs, but i will get short stroke shocks this time.

i changed springs/shocks in an afternoon, only mistake i made was leaving a front bumpstop out (put it back in)

just be sure to get a wheel alignment soon after you lower, i didnt and the inside corners of the tyres wore off pretty fast.


[Updated on: Wed, 06 August 2003 00:41]

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icon10.gif  Re: KYB Shocks! Wed, 06 August 2003 02:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
I can definately vouch for the KYB's! They are an excellent shock absorber, I have a set in my Ae82 running on Lovell's and they are fantastic Very Happy

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Re: KYB Shocks! Wed, 06 August 2003 04:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
http://www.whiteline.com.au/store/
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Re: KYB Shocks! Wed, 06 August 2003 05:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
$180 pair of brand new 505 Pug shocks

fits in an AE86, stiffer and shorter.. short stroke susp for 1/4 the price.
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Re: KYB Shocks! Wed, 06 August 2003 05:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Simon, what brand and part number are they? I am up for new shocks soon and these sound good.
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Re: KYB Shocks! Wed, 06 August 2003 05:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
cool!

front strut inserts?

and do you mean fit, or "fit"

i read somewhere that early rx-7 shocks work on the rear end, and are shorter.

ill have to look into that, thanks!
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Re: KYB Shocks! Wed, 06 August 2003 06:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Its ALLLLLLLLLLL here Smile

Front Insert Dimensions:

AE86
Body length: 402mm
Extended length: 604mm
Extended minus Body: 202mm
Outside Diameter: 43.5mm


AE92:
Body length: 336mm
Extended length: 500mm
Extended minus Body: 164mm
Outside Diameter: 43.5mm

Celica T/RA63
Body length: 405mm
Extended length: 605mm (3dr hatch maybe shorter then this)
Extended minus Body: 200mm
Outside Diameter: 43.5mm
Shaft diameter: 22mm

Corolla KE35:
Body length: 414mm
Extended length: 613mm
Extended minus Body: 199mm
Outside Diameter: 38mm

Corona TT132
Body length: 403mm
Extended length: 600mm
Extended minus Body: 197mm
Outside Diameter: 43.5mm

Tokico HTS
Body length: 332mm
Extended length: 476mm
Extended minus Body: 144mm
Outside Diameter: 43.5mm


Rear Shocks Dimensions:

AE86
Extended Length: 560mm
Closed Length: 335mm

AW11 S/C
Body length: 345mm
Outside Diameter: 43.5mm

Peugeot 505
Extended length: 420mm
Extended minus Body: 270mm
Twin Tube Rating (344004): 1900/600

Toyota Cressida/Mark II GX70 Station Wagon
Dimensions unknown but good for AE86 rear shock, sim to Peugeot above, maybe stiffer

Hilux (front shock)
Extended length: 420mm
KYB Heavy Duty Gas Rating (KG5437): 3100/1000



Mazda RX-7 Gen 1
Extended Length: 540mm
Closed Length: 323mm


Celica T/RA63
Extended Length: 620mm
Closed Length: 320mm


'82 Camaro (16" wheels)
Extended Length: 486mm
Closed Length: 309mm

Tokico HTS
Extended Length: 455mm
Closed Length: 307.5mm

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Re: KYB Shocks! Wed, 06 August 2003 06:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
slider wrote on Wed, 06 August 2003 15:53

Simon, what brand and part number are they? I am up for new shocks soon and these sound good.


KYB, sorry dont know part number.. but they are Peurgeot 505 Rear shocks

bolt right in
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Re: KYB Shocks! Wed, 06 August 2003 23:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
wow, thanks heaps.

the only thing missing in the list is prices Very Happy

so the pug rear shocks (strut inserts) screw into the front struts of the AE86?? you would need to put a spacer under the cartridge right?

or are these replacents for the rear shocks only?

cheers

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Re: KYB Shocks! Thu, 07 August 2003 01:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
no in that list the parts for fronts only fit in the frotn and the parts for the rear likewise.

so.. the 505 will fit in the rear of the ae86 only

505 kyb's perfect.. the 505 is a bloody heavy car!
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Re: KYB Shocks! Thu, 07 August 2003 01:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
I got quoted 180 bucks a pair of new KYB's for 505 ones

good price for something that is effectivly a stiffer and short stroke shock for an AE86
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Re: KYB Shocks! Thu, 07 August 2003 02:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
btw

KYB = Keep ya Bouncing Smile

yes, im bored Very Happy
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Re: KYB Shocks! Thu, 07 August 2003 03:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
simon,

do you have the above insert specs for the:

ra60 celica
ra65 celica
ma61 supra

im currently dropping a pair of ra60 struts into the ma61 (more camber Very Happy ) and have a funny feeling that the ra60's inserts might be iterchangeable with the AE86 / 505 pug insert. the supra has been droped anout 35mm at the front, and could do with a shorter stroke shock.

any idea what the 505 weighs? ie similar to the 1300kg of the supra? more? i doubt a standard AE86 shock in a supra would be too pretty...

the 505, if damped enough, could be interesting..

cheers
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Re: KYB Shocks! Thu, 07 August 2003 03:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
ahhh crap, just realised you were talking about the rears...

still, data on the 505 weight/damping would still be good, as too if youve got insert data on the above...

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Re: KYB Shocks! Thu, 07 August 2003 04:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
so the 505 shock only applies to the rear of the car? im more concerned with the front for now, as it is easier to do dodgy things in the back (like seat-belt drop limiting ala rally cars)

i just need (ideally) 2 inch shorter stroke shocks front and back, so i dont have to use "progressive rate" springs.

i dont know how dodgy it would be to either cut and reweld 2 inches out of my current (or new) shocks, or cutting and re-threading them. better to get the proper deal though, id say.
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Re: KYB Shocks! Thu, 07 August 2003 05:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
cutting OEM struts is neither dodgy or ineffective so long its done right.

i am currently in the process of Modifying my RA40 struts that are in my ae86. They already have had the spring platform cut off and a coil over sleve put in, whoever did it put 400 pound springs in which are also fairly high, with a RA40 monroe *shudders* gas shock rated too 100 pounds.

in other words... the spring is killing the shit shock.

So, i plan to take the RA40 shocks out and fit a AE92 shock which is some 60 something mm shorter. that would mean cutting 60 mm out of the strut tube, lining it back up and then rewelding it with a seleve, done correctly it will be stronger then an OEM strut.

HOWEVER, i have a few probs so far and wheel offset clearance is one fo them. I will have to fit RA60/MA61 (are they the same?) front hubs, disk and calipers which will give me an axtra 7mm offset, then a spacer.

505's weigh a good 1350 kgs i believe, they have excellent rebound rates!

i'll see if i can find the specs for you tho!

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Re: KYB Shocks! Fri, 08 August 2003 05:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
A word of warning for those getting the KYB rear shocks. I got the ones for a RX7 and the metal sleeve does not come out of the rubber bush. So make sure the shock that you are getting fit over the lower shock mount. KYB moulds them together making removal difficult.
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Re: KYB Shocks! Fri, 08 August 2003 05:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
stuff like that can be changed enough

Oh and a 505 weighs 1450 kgs i found out!

they have excellent bound and rebound rates
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Re: KYB Shocks! Fri, 08 August 2003 07:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
i meant cutting the shock shaft, not the strut tube, i dunno if this would be too dodgy or not. wouldnt bee s obad on the back, but if you broke the shock shaft on the front, it wouldnt be pretty.
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Re: KYB Shocks! Fri, 08 August 2003 12:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Simon-MrRx7 wrote on Thu, 07 August 2003 15:28

I will have to fit RA60/MA61 (are they the same?) front hubs, disk and calipers which will give me an axtra 7mm offset, then a spacer.


check this:
http://www4.tpgi.com.au/users/loats/technical/ma61 /ra60strut.html

http://www4.tpgi.com.au/users/loats/technical/ma61/images/ra60struts/main.jpg

cheers
ed


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Re: KYB Shocks! Fri, 08 August 2003 22:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
very nice website there ed.

i picked up some SA63 (84 celica) vented fron ts and calipers yesterday.

im hoping they will bolt up to my ra40 struts no worries!
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Re: KYB Shocks! Mon, 08 September 2003 05:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Just letting ppl know... i bought some GT4 St185 KYB's for my front struts... will be converting to short stroke to fit.. they seem nice and stiff! hjope they do the job Wink
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Re: KYB Shocks! Mon, 08 September 2003 05:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Keep me posted on how the 185 inserts go.. I'm thinking of using these also.
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Re: KYB Shocks! Mon, 08 September 2003 05:24 Go to previous message
i have a feeling they will go very well Wink

im doing THE chop tonight on my strut bodies.. say Bye Bye to 70mm's Wink
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