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Mon, 11 August 2003 00:12
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Why?
Why?!?!
Why must people do this?!?!
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Re: Poor RX-8
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Mon, 11 August 2003 00:43
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HeHe, I thought you were gunna tell us you already had a chance to race and beat one !!!
Max always seems to be first with the news when these new models come out.
Matt
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Re: Poor RX-8
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Mon, 11 August 2003 01:42
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I'd love to have a go at an RX-8. 
On a side note...
I heard a rumour that the new RX-7 will be quad rotor!! 
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I supported Toymods
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Re: Poor RX-8
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Mon, 11 August 2003 02:45
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thats true!!!!
new rx-7 is going to be a killer!
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Perth
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November 2002
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Re: Poor RX-8
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Mon, 11 August 2003 02:54
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Go mazda, they look to have a nice lot of performance cars right now. I wonder if they will put the rotary into their mainstream cars being as they have increased fuel efficiency and whatnot.
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May 2002
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Re: Poor RX-8
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Mon, 11 August 2003 03:19
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| Nark wrote on Mon, 11 August 2003 11:42 |
I heard a rumour that the new RX-7 will be quad rotor!!
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I heard this rumour as well, but I dismissed it as BS. Where did you hear it?
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Re: Poor RX-8
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Mon, 11 August 2003 04:11
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the new RX7 is said to be a big block twin rotor.
Instead of forced induction mazda will be going for cubes for power.. and power it shall make 
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Re: Poor RX-8
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Mon, 11 August 2003 04:16
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| Norbie wrote on Mon, 11 August 2003 13:19 |
I heard this rumour as well, but I dismissed it as BS. Where did you hear it?
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Can't remember... My memory sux0rz... 
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Melbourne
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March 2003
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Re: Poor RX-8
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Mon, 11 August 2003 07:16
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Actually it'll most likely be a 1.4 or 1.5 ltre rotar and be built on the a shortend and widend rx8 chassis. Supposed to be NA and under 1 tonne.
It will be going head to head with the new gtr, and that pushes 480hp ( take a look here for more info, if u can read japanese then doubhle bonus http://members.iinet.net.au/~awcabren/SAU/ )
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Launceston, Tasmania
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May 2002
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Re: Poor RX-8
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Mon, 11 August 2003 07:33
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Are these cars just prototypes or the real thing? i don't really go much on that GTR but the VQ32DETT sounds interesting I'm not sure whether i like the RX7 or not either:S
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Launceston, Tasmania
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May 2002
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Re: Poor RX-8
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Mon, 11 August 2003 07:33
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front end of that GTR looks just like the new magna
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Re: Poor RX-8
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Mon, 11 August 2003 08:39
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As far as all the rumors about the RX7 I've heard, they are going to have a roughly 1.5l twin rotor which they'll achieve by widening the rotors in the current 1.3l RENESIS. They are looking in the range of 240-250kW for power, which should be plenty to keep GTR's honest given the less weight.
Speaking of weight, they will be using a wider and shorter version of the RX8 chassis (to make it financially viable) but I'd say weight of under a tonne is VERY optimistic considering all the weight of the larger brakes etc.
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Re: Poor RX-8
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Tue, 12 August 2003 04:47
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as long as it looks as sexy as the last model rx-7 
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Launceston, Tasmania
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Re: Poor RX-8
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Tue, 12 August 2003 05:16
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Also regarding the quard rotor engine. i remember vaigly reading about an engine called a 26BT, obviously this is 2.6 liter displacement. I can't confirm that it is not just a rumor but i think it may have been in a lemans car or something.
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Re: Poor RX-8
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Tue, 12 August 2003 05:20
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That would be the R26B which was a mazda produced LEmans motor only. It was a Peripheral ported quad rotor making in excess of 700 NA hp.
so no.. it isnt a road going engine
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Re: Poor RX-8
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Tue, 12 August 2003 05:23
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well
fuck
2.6 litre n/a putting out 700+ bhp.
I'm guessing there's all of one engine in the world that can make that claim.
over 250bhp/litre
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Re: Poor RX-8
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Tue, 12 August 2003 05:26
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If you're comparing it with piston engines, the R26B is actually 5.2 litres. 700hp is still pretty impressive though.
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Re: Poor RX-8
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Tue, 12 August 2003 05:28
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how does that work?
I always wondered how a 1.3 litre displacement engine "really" has 2.6
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Re: Poor RX-8
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Tue, 12 August 2003 05:30
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in the cams manual a rotory displacement is classified *1.6 (i think) even more if it is force fed
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Re: Poor RX-8
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Tue, 12 August 2003 05:40
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but *why* ?
just to even things up coz rotary engine found a way to get more power out of a smaller engine?
if that's the case, it is the biggest producer of power per litre. no sense multiplying by 1.6 or 2 to "even things up"
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Re: Poor RX-8
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Tue, 12 August 2003 05:46
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i have had this exact same discussion with a friend who owns a s4 rx7. i honstly think rotories should be in a class of their own. in my opinion is its like trying to race jet powered dragsters against internal combustion dragsters. they just arn't matched. same with piston vs. rotory.
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Tue, 12 August 2003 05:46
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I think the reasoning behind that is that there's a complete (in/compress/out) cycle for every cc each time the crank spins, rather than half of a conventional piston engine....
Something like that. Can't remember the specifics right now.
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Re: Poor RX-8
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Tue, 12 August 2003 05:50
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just as an additional.. that front bar of your original post is AWFUL. I've seen front bars on civics with kittens trapped in them that looked better than that atrocity
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Adelaide
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June 2003
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Re: Poor RX-8
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Tue, 12 August 2003 06:13
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the reason for it is because the rotary goes AROUND instead of up and down, each time the rotor goes past the ignition point it fires,
where as a piston goes down then it goes up and fires only once
its kind of a bad explanation but basically the rotor fires 3 times one rotation
i think
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Re: Poor RX-8
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Tue, 12 August 2003 07:44
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All twin rotors should be compared to 6 Cylns due to the fact that there are 3 firing cycles per revolution per rotor.
Swept volume is 1.3L's but people referr them to 2.6's due to the firing nature of the rotary.
I myself like to think that its a 1.3 L...seems more fun when you beat someone and they ask what it is... you tell the clueless idiot in the commie (ok im being general now) that its just a 1.3
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