| Author | Topic |
|---|
Location:
sydney
Registered:
January 2003
|
|
Battery relocation
|
Mon, 08 September 2003 08:22
|
 |
Hi all
Has anyone relocated their battey to the back for better balance. I just need to know what has to be done. do i need to use those thick battery cables ? how can i pass this thru the firewall ? can i buy ready made battery support or would i need to fabricate a new one ?
I have an 86, has no back seat, still has the spare. The weight could be 60/40. To much oversteer with this.. or could be something else..
thnks all
Chriso
|
|
|
Location:
berala sydney
Registered:
November 2002
|
|
Re: Battery relocation
|
Mon, 08 September 2003 09:10
|
|
hi chris-
I relocated my battery put it on the side of my ute because they was no room in the engine bay not for balance.
cya knackers
|
|
|
I supported Toymods
Location:
Epping, Sydney
Registered:
May 2002
|
|
Re: Battery relocation
|
Mon, 08 September 2003 09:42
|
|
I had the sme problem, and researched the same thing
you'll need thick calbes (thick as you can get) to go from your engine bay to your boot
you'll also either need a ventilated battery (like the ones that come in mercedes), or a ventilator case for your battery, to vent the H2 gas to outside the cabin.
also needs to be well secured
|
|
|
Location:
sydney
Registered:
March 2003
|
|
Re: Battery relocation
|
Mon, 08 September 2003 09:48
|
|
if u have a hatch
u cannot legally fit a battery in the hatch
due to it being not sealled off from the passenger compartment
|
|
|
I supported Toymods
Location:
Epping, Sydney
Registered:
May 2002
|
|
Re: Battery relocation
|
Mon, 08 September 2003 09:51
|
|
you sure?
max got his engineered with the battery in the boot (I think)
|
|
|
I supported Toymods
Location:
Perth
Registered:
May 2002
|
|
Re: Battery relocation
|
Mon, 08 September 2003 09:53
|
|
|
He definetly did, the battery in the RA60 lives where the AFM and stuff on the 1G go.
|
|
|
I supported Toymods
Banned User
Location:
Brisbane
Registered:
May 2002
|
|
Re: Battery relocation
|
Mon, 08 September 2003 09:58
|
|
|
We fit batteries in the army land cruisers under the seats in sealed boxes! All legal and sweet!
|
|
|
Location:
sydney
Registered:
March 2003
|
|
Re: Battery relocation
|
Mon, 08 September 2003 09:59
|
|
i dont know if rules have changed recently
maybe u r allowed if its a new oddisey battery which is a dry cell
but im pretty sure acid batteries are not allowed to breath
vapours into the cabin
same shit as y surge tanks are not allowed to be in hatches in the boot
and fuel vapour should not be able to go into cabin
driver might pass out hehe
|
|
|
Location:
sydney
Registered:
March 2003
|
|
Re: Battery relocation
|
Mon, 08 September 2003 10:01
|
|
well im not to sure what the go is with passenger cars
best bet to ask an engineer
i just never bother fititng batteries into hatchback cars
even surge tanks are not the best
i had one in boot of my 1600 just behind tail lights
if i had a car run up the back of my car
it would burst into flames
|
|
|
I supported Toymods
Banned User
Location:
Brisbane
Registered:
May 2002
|
|
Re: Battery relocation
|
Mon, 08 September 2003 10:06
|
|
|
Any battery doesnt matter if it is sealed has to be in a sealed box vented to the outside world! When mounted like this it can be fitted anywhere!
|
|
|
I supported Toymods
Location:
Epping, Sydney
Registered:
May 2002
|
|
Re: Battery relocation
|
Mon, 08 September 2003 10:07
|
|
yep
just has to be vented
|
|
|
Location:
Kita-Ku, Sapporo, Japan
Registered:
January 2003
|
|
Re: Battery relocation
|
Mon, 08 September 2003 10:57
|
|
| sideshow wrote on Mon, 08 September 2003 19:59 |
same shit as y surge tanks are not allowed to be in hatches in the boot
and fuel vapour should not be able to go into cabin
driver might pass out hehe
|
hmm, so hows that work when the car originally has the petrol tank in the boot behind the back seat, and there is no partition as such between boot and cabin?? and can you have a sealed battery in a boot with a surgetank or petrol tank??? hmmmm, sounds like an ugly combination, but what else can ya do??
Cya, Stewart
|
|
|
Location:
sydney
Registered:
March 2003
|
|
Re: Battery relocation
|
Mon, 08 September 2003 11:03
|
|
usually they have a shitty piece of cardboard or plywood
between the tank n the back seat in a sedan shaped car and that is usually the case with sedans
is there any hatch back car that has the fuel tank behind the back seat
i cant think of any
im not to sure what the laws are today
i try not to fit surge tanks or batteries into the hatch part
of a car
sedans are different story
|
|
|
I supported Toymods
Location:
melbourne
Registered:
June 2002
|
|
Re: Battery relocation
|
Mon, 08 September 2003 12:17
|
|
by 86, i take it you mean AE86, and not some vague reference to a 1986 model car.
i have been poking around thinking about doing this, as i have no money or GEs to put in my car, here are my thoughts.
i'd remove the jack/tool bak cover and fix a sealed battery box there, with a vent tube attatched to an existing vent (there is one on each side you can see outside the rubber seal under the hatch)
i'm not totally sure if there is a space all the way, but i would run the cables along the side, through the door sills and out the hole that is near the original battery location.
hope this helps, it should be pretty easy to do.
|
|
|
Location:
was adelaide now newcastle
Registered:
February 2003
|
|
Re: Battery relocation
|
Mon, 08 September 2003 23:18
|
|
i originally moved my battery from the engine bay to where the back seat used to be in my 86, but have now installed a new oddessey battery in the engine bay again, this was after consultation with an engineer who told me what had to be done to engineer the battery inside the car, the following things must be done..
-battery box must vent to outside
-battery bracket must be firmly bolted/welded to body of car (no tek-screws)
-tray must be installed under battery (to catch any leakage)
-wiring to battery must be safe (obviously open to the engineers interpretation of safe)
in the end was cheaper and easier to get the oddessey(cost $210), which fits nicely in the front and doesnt hit my I/C plumbing.
please note even if a battery is dry cell (which oddessey is not, only optima)must still comply with all regs, ie like child restraints and unleaded filler necks- car may be sold to some one who doesnt know thus everything must be idiot proof.
i chose the oddessey due to its small size, and as optima dont make small batteries that i could find, just grunty batteries (ie for stereos)
finally, i really wonder if the "weight ballance" will make up for the extra 10kg or so of weight in the wire and the batt box etc.., but a relocated battery does look the goods though.
ps if you are after a batt box, wire, and switch complete with 3month old battery pm me , im in newcastle
|
|
|
Location:
Eskilstuna, Sweden
Registered:
May 2002
|
|
|
Location:
Kita-Ku, Sapporo, Japan
Registered:
January 2003
|
|
Re: Battery relocation
|
Tue, 09 September 2003 02:13
|
|
ay good info 
so. how big is this Oddessey battery, ie cm x cm x cm????
my poor little rolla has about the second smallest battery available as it's stock one.... god knows i can't fit a bigger one in the e/bay.... but grunty and small sounds really good!!
Cya, Stewart
|
|
|
Location:
Cabramatta, NSW
Registered:
May 2002
|
 Re: Battery relocation
|
Tue, 09 September 2003 06:42
|
|
| draven wrote on Mon, 08 September 2003 19:51 |
you sure?
max got his engineered with the battery in the boot (I think)
|
Mine's not engineered... 
I heard talk of dry batteries once? Not sure if the rules still apply though...
|
|
|
I supported Toymods
Banned User
Location:
Brisbane
Registered:
May 2002
|
|
Re: Battery relocation
|
Tue, 09 September 2003 08:42
|
|
|
Dry batteries unfortunately dont make one bit of difference!
|
|
|
Location:
Eskilstuna, Sweden
Registered:
May 2002
|
|
Re: Battery relocation
|
Tue, 09 September 2003 09:10
|
|
|
Correct, but you can still move them up the back if you do it right - even in a hatch.
|
|
|
I supported Toymods
Banned User
Location:
Brisbane
Registered:
May 2002
|
|
Re: Battery relocation
|
Tue, 09 September 2003 09:29
|
|
| Youngy wrote on Tue, 09 September 2003 19:10 |
Correct, but you can still move them up the back if you do it right - even in a hatch.
|
Correct.
|
|
|
