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 Advice on superchargin a 4K
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Wed, 24 September 2003 07:12
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I was thinkin about buying a super charger of a wrecker out of an altezza or something, for $395
to hook it up i guess i'd just need to weld up a metal pipe to the carbie and another for the air filter, i dont really know if i need to intercool it 'coz its originally not had one. They run 7-10psi, i guess i could weld a VL aircon belt onto the fan because it is the exact same belt pattern.
Any ideas or "you're a dickhead"'s
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Wed, 24 September 2003 07:41
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i was thinkin the same thing for a ke30 panny, an adapter to manifold, the adapter for carb (prolly newer one) and some stab. bracketing wola! 
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Wed, 24 September 2003 07:42
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yeh its a pretty foolproof idea.
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Wed, 24 September 2003 08:12
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yes, cant help you out, but i can say do it!
i was thinkn of trying the same thing for mine next holidays.
Bit simpler than a turbo.
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Wed, 24 September 2003 08:41
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if one or both of ya do it scan the plans for the adapter plate! i'll do the same if i do it... gotta get a rolla first i guess!
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NSW Engadine
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June 2003
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Wed, 24 September 2003 09:46
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excellent, production will commence as soon as sufficient funds are found
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NSW Engadine
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Re: Advice on superchargin a 4K
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Wed, 24 September 2003 10:10
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hey does anyone have any ideas on how many ponies i'd gain my engines basically stock except for an exhaust.
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Kita-Ku, Sapporo, Japan
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January 2003
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Re: Advice on superchargin a 4K
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Wed, 24 September 2003 10:47
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surely there's a little more to it than that...
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I was thinkin about buying a super charger of a wrecker out of an altezza or something, for $395
to hook it up i guess i'd just need to weld up a metal pipe to the carbie and another for the air filter, i dont really know if i need to intercool it 'coz its originally not had one. They run 7-10psi, i guess i could weld a VL aircon belt onto the fan because it is the exact same belt pattern.
Any ideas or "you're a dickhead"'s
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what carby?? a DMTT?? or are you going to make up a pressurised box? chances are it will not give decent fuelling.
the SC14 is prolly a little big for the 1.3L (or 1.5L) motor...
the way to do it would be to grab a 4KE or 7KE injection manifold, get an intercooler, get properly sized injectors, get aftermarket computer, tune it properly, etc.
but give it a go , see what happens.....
do a search for the supercharged gas 5K that was around (was Brads)
Cya, Stewart
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adelaide
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August 2003
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Re: Advice on superchargin a 4K
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Wed, 24 September 2003 12:52
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I have just finished fitting a SC14 to a 4K thats in a clubman type of vehicle and it was done reasonably cheaply.
it has; ported head, double valve springs, head studs, 4 into 1 exhaust, cam suitable for s/c setup and modified distributor ( set at 10 deg mech adv with no vac adv. ) The s/c has 2 x 2" SU's which should be too rich according to the books but on this particular setup seems to be working well...it wheelspins all the way through second gear!!!.
There is a lot of fabrication in this type of conversion and it will take quite a bit time to get it set-up correctly...I have blown two head gaskets on the dyno before this last configuration ( studs & mod timing )
If you are interested, you can let me know your email address or pm me and I can email you some photos.
good luck with it.
kevin.
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adelaide
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August 2003
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Re: Advice on superchargin a 4K
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Wed, 24 September 2003 13:02
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If some-one can tell me how to put an image on this post I can show you what I have done...can't quite work it out??? 
kevin
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Brisbane
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May 2002
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Wed, 24 September 2003 14:11
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To show pics you have to have hosts them somewhere and then link to them. How big are they, I might be able to host them for you if you don't have space. 
Cheers
Wilbo
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NSW Engadine
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June 2003
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Re: Advice on superchargin a 4K
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Thu, 25 September 2003 12:13
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i'll just sticky tape it to the engine bay and get some garden hose to run it to the motor, no seriously if i do it and the engine blows up, i'll just buy another, where not talkin big money, mines reconditioned with a 5spd for 200
i'l draw up a sketchy pic on the computer and post it up
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NSW Engadine
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adelaide
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August 2003
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Re: Advice on superchargin a 4K
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Fri, 26 September 2003 11:37
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I've sent my photos thru' to wilbo so hopefully you can get to see them......I wouldn't run the drive belt off the fan pulley etc., as there is a reasonable force needed to drive it ..especially when it is revving out quickly. It should be taken from the crank...machine an adapter and mount another pulley there to drive it.... and remember to have the adjusting pulley/tensioner on the non-driven side ( slack side ) of the belt.
I converted mine to use gilmer/timing belt ( 8mm toothed belt ) so there is no chance of any slippage, but it is a lot more work.
regards, kevin.
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Re: Advice on superchargin a 4K
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Sat, 27 September 2003 02:56
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Very nice looking setup man, you can tell a lot of work has gone into it BTW what figures did you pull on the dyno?
Cheers
Wilbo
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adelaide
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August 2003
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Re: Advice on superchargin a 4K
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Sat, 27 September 2003 10:13
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thanks,....the two times it was on the dyno ( before the head gasket let go each time ) the guy was still trying to get the mixtures correct with the right needle profile using only a single SU at that stage...the needle was getting very thin and it was still lean and any attempt to get resonable load on the dyno resulted in too much wheelspin because the rollers had lost a lot of the grooves.
how-ever we were getting between 80 to 90 hp at the rear wheels at approx 3500rpm.
next time it will be on a new dyno...
Next time it will have correct timing setup, plenty of fuel good traction and around 7000rpm!!! ....
regards, kevin.
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new zealand
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June 2003
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Re: Advice on superchargin a 4K
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Fri, 10 October 2003 06:41
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NICE!! my kp60 starlet has a supercharged 5k with a ported big valve head custom intake 4age injectors link ecu custom extractors and a sc14 running about 12 pounds boost what gearboxs are you guys running behind your forced fed k series motors I'm running a t50 do you have that option in Australia?
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adelaide
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August 2003
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Re: Advice on superchargin a 4K
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Sat, 11 October 2003 13:29
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Hi,
I'm still using the 4 speed but next time the motor has to come out I will go to the 5speed.... My car only weighs 550 kg so at this stage there is no problems with the gearbox... although I would like a longer 1st gear... guess I will go down a ratio or two with the diff.
kevin.
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adelaide
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April 2003
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Re: Advice on superchargin a 4K
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Sat, 11 October 2003 16:02
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I have a 5 speed i dont need sitting in my shed mate, perhaps we can work it into a deal if you need one
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