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Remote oil filter with cooler
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Mon, 17 November 2003 00:26
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I've already got a remote oil filter setup on my car. Its using a bracket that the filter screws into and it has two hoses plugged into it that go to the engine's plate. It works great, but I want to add a cooler for summer.
I've also got the stock MA70 oil cooler sitting in my garage.
Can I hook this cooler up? How?
I paid a shitload for these hoses from Pirtek ($300) and don't feel like scrapping them for another set willy-nilly.
I remember hearing KingMick from these forums talk about a filter plate with 4 hoses in it. Does anyone know where I can get one? (I'm asking kingmick via PM too)
The oil cooler's lines are metal, but I remember they only had rubber hoses connecting it to the engine. Can I use those rubber hoses (like the powersteering lines) or do I need to spend heaps at Pirtek again?
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Adelaide, SA
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May 2002
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Re: Remote oil filter with cooler
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Mon, 17 November 2003 00:57
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I have a remote mount setup similar to yours (although not on the car) and the filter plate has 4 fittings but you blank off two depending on which direction you are mounting it in. I'm also going to put my ma70 cooler on it and was planning to simply connect it from the filter out and then back into the block.
You can also buy a thermostat that will plumb into this line and only open the cooler lines at a certain temp.
You should be able to use rubber lines as long as they are rated for the temp and pressure you require.
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Re: Remote oil filter with cooler
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Mon, 17 November 2003 01:00
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http://www.perma-cool.com/Catalog/Cat_page14.html
Maybe I plum one of these in and run the cooler off the thermostat. Will have to get some lines made to connect it up.
Other thing is the MA70 cooler has thin lines(1/4 inch), the lines to the filter are huge (1/2 inch). Might have to get a connector to make it smaller to go through the cooler.
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Re: Remote oil filter with cooler
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Mon, 17 November 2003 01:04
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This is what I meant about 4 lines.
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Adelaide, SA
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Re: Remote oil filter with cooler
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Mon, 17 November 2003 01:50
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That's the same as mine  It's so you can mount it with the oil lines on one side or the other (depending on your engine bay configuration).
I hope to put mine on soon - it's a real PITA to change the oil-filter on the 1j!!
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I supported Toymods
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Re: Remote oil filter with cooler
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Mon, 17 November 2003 01:56
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dunno if this is going to be of help but here goes anyway :
thats my engine bay. i run a std z9 type remote oil filter and a cooler - all the hose fittings are speedflow and the hose is all pushlock stuff.
its the speedflow fittings you'll need - have a chat with T on these forums (meridian motorsport) they supply these. thats where i got all my gear from.
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Re: Remote oil filter with cooler
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Mon, 17 November 2003 01:59
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I don't think using the filter plate with 4 fittings is a good idea. That would mean the oil coming out of the engine will either be filtered OR cooled, correct? What you want is for your oil to be filtered AND cooled!
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Re: Remote oil filter with cooler
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Mon, 17 November 2003 02:05
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Norbie, Yeah I thought the same thing.
I think kingmick was using it for a pressure guage, which would work I suppose. I still need a pressure guage.
Grega, I'll have a chat with Toby. Very good pic with the blue lines.
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Syndey
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December 2002
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Re: Remote oil filter with cooler
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Mon, 17 November 2003 02:05
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if you already have the remote filter you can just change over to one of the 4 line setups or fit a squash plate in the remote this gives you the 2 lines for the oil cooler and will be a heap cheaper than the other setups
Dale
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Re: Remote oil filter with cooler
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Mon, 17 November 2003 02:14
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Can you elaborate?
Whats a squash plate? I can't find it on google.
How do I change it over to a 4 line setup?? Have you got a pic of a 4 line setup?
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Syndey
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December 2002
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Re: Remote oil filter with cooler
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Mon, 17 November 2003 02:32
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the plate goes between the oil filter and oil filter mount, it has 2 hoses coming off it that go to your oil cooler, thats it nothing else needs to be changed,
Dale
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Re: Remote oil filter with cooler
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Mon, 17 November 2003 06:53
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Speaking of sandwhich plates, and remote setups, I was wondering if anyone can point me in the right direction to buy a sandwhich plate for my 1JZ-GTE so I can fit an oil cooler. However, I do not need a remote oil filter kit with it. I am trying to find them seperate.
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I supported Toymods
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Epping, Sydney
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Re: Remote oil filter with cooler
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Mon, 17 November 2003 06:57
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grega - that's looking awesome!
how long till it's back on the road?
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Kita-Ku, Sapporo, Japan
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January 2003
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Re: Remote oil filter with cooler
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Mon, 17 November 2003 07:03
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Grega, thats looking fine!!!!!!!! the engine look slike it's almost sitting on the ground  so low!!
Cya, Stewart
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November 2002
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Re: Remote oil filter with cooler
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Mon, 17 November 2003 07:16
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Grega,
That is a great looking job. Can you tell me what radiator arrangement you have place ? I don't see it sticking up above the top support panel. Remote header tank ? Cap on an elbow from the top tank ?
Cheers,
Mitch.
Perth West Aust.
(Classic-Celica)
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November 2002
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Re: Remote oil filter with cooler
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Mon, 17 November 2003 07:17
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Forgot that previous rubbish - I'm blind as well as stark raving mad lunatic idiot......
Doh.
Mitch.
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May 2002
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Re: Remote oil filter with cooler
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Mon, 17 November 2003 09:01
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Why not just use the remote filter base that you have, and run the cooler in series??
IE: you can either run from the engine to the cooler, then through the filter, or the other way around, through the filter first. If its a second hand cooler, then i'd definately prefer to have the cooler first, then any fine particles that you cant flush out will still be caught by the filter afterwards.
Make sure that the cooler you use is rated to withstand FULL oil system pressure & flow, not a bypass type that only circulates the excess oil from the pressure relief valve, which dont seem to cope so well (I lost 15psi oil pressure running all of the engine's oil through a cooler from a 3TGTE on my 4AG).
Cheers
Phil
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Re: Remote oil filter with cooler
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Mon, 17 November 2003 11:07
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| TE72_Turbo wrote on Mon, 17 November 2003 19:01 |
Why not just use the remote filter base that you have, and run the cooler in series??
IE: you can either run from the engine to the cooler, then through the filter, or the other way around, through the filter first. If its a second hand cooler, then i'd definately prefer to have the cooler first, then any fine particles that you cant flush out will still be caught by the filter afterwards.
Cheers
Phil
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i was thinking the same thing, but the only problem is that the engine may be unprotected till it builds up pressure for a few secs.
but you may be able to use an accumulator system
http://store.summitracing.com/product.asp?d=12& ;s=322&p=33&searchtype=ecat
go to http://www.summitracing.com and choose oiling systems and u have a big range
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Re: Remote oil filter with cooler
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Mon, 17 November 2003 21:09
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to put a coolor on and not a remote filter you just need to fit a sandwitch plate between the block and oil filter, then run the lines to the the cooler,
i can supply you with this stuff if you like,
Dale
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Re: Remote oil filter with cooler
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Mon, 17 November 2003 22:19
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| TE72_Turbo wrote on Mon, 17 November 2003 19:31 |
Why not just use the remote filter base that you have, and run the cooler in series??
IE: you can either run from the engine to the cooler, then through the filter, or the other way around, through the filter first. If its a second hand cooler, then i'd definately prefer to have the cooler first, then any fine particles that you cant flush out will still be caught by the filter afterwards.
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Wouldn't you rather filter the oil while it's hot and lower in viscosity, thus improving flow-rate through the filter, than cooler and thicker once past thru the cooler? I'm planning on doing this remoute mount filter and cooler and would be interested in the pro's and con's of where to place the cooler.
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Re: Remote oil filter with cooler
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Mon, 17 November 2003 22:40
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| TE72_Turbo wrote on Mon, 17 November 2003 20:01 |
Why not just use the remote filter base that you have, and run the cooler in series??
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I was thinking of doing that, but that means making up new lines. As I paid $300 for these lines I'm not in a rush for new ones. Also the lines I've got are 2 lines less than a foot long. $150 each is damn expensive.
I might try and find a way to get the new lines attached to the old ones. They should all screw in together.
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Re: Remote oil filter with cooler
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Tue, 18 November 2003 00:03
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Pete... if you can manage it, go and visit the boys at Motorsport Connections in Seven Hills - they are the NSW speedflow supplier, and also have a crudload of oil cooler stuff incl lines.
I am currently also in talks with them to get them as a discount offering sponsor for financial Toymods members (ie you)
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Re: Remote oil filter with cooler
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Tue, 18 November 2003 00:13
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sorry for the thread hijack not my intention
draven - soon on the road dude.
mitch - tis ok - std ta22 radiator - just with 3 cores. outlet/inlet moved to the opposite side.
more info on my conversion in the tech section under my conversion progress.
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