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speakafreaka Forums Junkie Registered: March 2003	legalities of pod filters Wed, 31 December 2003 07:47 Here is some very interesting information from an SAU Member..... -------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------- 10 days ago I was defected for having an exposed Pod filter. I was planning to change back to the standard airbox (with K&N filter) soon anyhow so didn't kick up a stink about it and just accepted the 'defect notice'. My defect notice said 'airbox must comply with standards' and he told me that it must be boxed. My only requirements were to have my airfilter 'comply with the standards', get it checked by a blue slip mechanic and my defect notice signed and then have the RTA signed the other part of the defect notice. No RTA inspection was required at all. So 2 days later (Monday) I visited my local Ultra Tune mechanic who is 'blue slip' certified to enquire about my defect notice. He looked at my current setup and said their is nothing wrong with it. As long as the AFM is in place and is the original Nissan part then it does not matter what is 'after' the AFM. So that means I should have been told to get EPA approval of my Pod filter setup not a defect notice to box the pod or change back to the original airbox. The Ultra Tune mechanic rang the RTA Defect section and was told flat out that "anything aftermarket on the car is defect-able and is illegal', that means 'anything'. Now my mum works in the police force so I got her to chase up the exact ruling and bring it home on paper or in a book because I was curious as to what the 'exact' word for word ruling is. Now she couldn't find anything so she got some other police officers to look into it for me (these aren't just regular behind the desk officers these are the guys that teach the entire NSW force to drive, what to do, etc etc, they are very high up in the ranks). Guess what.... no documentation could be found at all in the road and traffic law book (this thing is well over 1,100 pages of documentation, so many pages infact I couldn't even be bothered to read it) stating -anything- about Pod filters or air filters. They then tried to find any other books that might contain information about this and were unsuccessful. Their is no such book in existance (atleast at the NSW Police Training Facilities) of what police can and can't defect you for, on the other hand, "RTA" Inspectors im sure would have a book and -could- defect you but -not- Police Officers. Afew hours later I then had a Seargent (that my mum works with) call me on my mobile and say "If your Nissan AFM is inplace and untouched you have not done anything illegal, get your defect notice signed by Ultra Tune and then signed at the RTA, you are clear". Abuse of power? Most certainly ! Money making? Most certainly ! Oh while im in a typing mood afew more things that are true. * For a police officer to do a "speed check" they must drive behind you for a minimum of 200m with no cars between yourself and them. * If you are pulled over regarding this you can ask the Police Officer to check his tyre pressures with the "provided" tyre pressure gauge. Highway Patrol cars have their speedo's checked every 30 days and are very conscious of having the speedo's right. If he does not have this tyre pressure gauge with him (supplied when the speedo is checked) dob him in and you watch how red his arse is after copping a whipping from his Sergeant. If the tyre pressures say anything -but- 42psi then take the speeding fine to court and could technically be thrown out of court quicker than the police officer can wipe his own arse. If the tyre pressures are not on exactly 42psi then their is no way of prooving that his speedo was accurate when doing his 'speed check' behind you. * Their is no way that a police officer can do a "background" check on his car computer on you whilst driving behind you -unless- he calls it through the radio for the head office (or call centre thingo) to do the check for them. * Their is no such thing as being "black flagged", ie; if you get defected once, a cop can't just look on his computer and go "oh he's been pulled over X times lets be a bastard and get him again for something else". * A Hwy Patrol mounted radar can reach up to 600m in a forwards or sideways view but not behind you. * Every police officer -must- wear his/her Police hat when they are out of a vehicle, failure to do so can get very nasty if the right people are told. * All car doors must be locked whenever the car is in motion. If a police officer is found to have a door unlocked (once again by the right people) then his/her license can be removed on the spot and then they have to re-take the entire police driving training course. * In pursuit a police office must "stop" at all inter-sections if it is a red light. Failure to do so will make "them" fully liable of "any" accident or damages caused at that intersection not "the police force". * Fog lights in use during the day on cop cars (and anyone for that matter) is an offence (unless in foggy areas). You may have noticed that when cop cars have their lights on that the foglights are also automatically on, naughty naughty. thought you guys would like that [Report message to a moderator]

	Subject	Poster	Date
	legalities of pod filters	speakafreaka	Wed, 31 December 2003 07:47
	Re: legalities of pod filters	SIMDOG	Wed, 31 December 2003 08:01
	Re: legalities of pod filters	draven	Wed, 31 December 2003 08:39
	Re: legalities of pod filters	ed_ma61	Wed, 31 December 2003 09:38
	Re: legalities of pod filters	SupraPete	Thu, 01 January 2004 22:59
	Re: legalities of pod filters	ed_ma61	Wed, 31 December 2003 09:42
	Re: legalities of pod filters	Astroboy007	Wed, 31 December 2003 10:13
	Re: legalities of pod filters	CamryMan	Wed, 31 December 2003 11:16
	Re: legalities of pod filters	Astroboy007	Wed, 31 December 2003 11:47
	Re: legalities of pod filters	CamryMan	Thu, 01 January 2004 05:33
	Re: legalities of pod filters	ae86drift	Thu, 01 January 2004 05:52
	Re: legalities of pod filters	ed_ma61	Wed, 31 December 2003 13:16
	Re: legalities of pod filters	Astroboy007	Wed, 31 December 2003 22:29
	Re: legalities of pod filters	draven	Wed, 31 December 2003 23:43
	Re: legalities of pod filters	ed_ma61	Wed, 31 December 2003 13:22
	Re: legalities of pod filters	7M-Brisbane	Thu, 01 January 2004 00:23
	Re: legalities of pod filters	Steve-AE86	Thu, 01 January 2004 01:44
	Re: legalities of pod filters	Allan	Thu, 01 January 2004 08:08
	Re: legalities of pod filters	Shraka	Thu, 01 January 2004 08:41
	Re: legalities of pod filters	Allan	Thu, 01 January 2004 09:42
	Re: legalities of pod filters	pro_ke	Thu, 01 January 2004 22:49
	Re: legalities of pod filters	lumpy	Tue, 06 January 2004 00:18
	Re: legalities of pod filters	ae86drift	Thu, 01 January 2004 05:15
	Re: legalities of pod filters	Astroboy007	Thu, 01 January 2004 05:21
	Re: legalities of pod filters	Toobs	Fri, 02 January 2004 01:50
	Re: legalities of pod filters	Allan	Tue, 06 January 2004 04:39
	Re: legalities of pod filters	speakafreaka	Sat, 03 January 2004 03:27
	Re: legalities of pod filters	CrUZsida	Tue, 06 January 2004 00:49
	Re: legalities of pod filters	T APLUS 22	Mon, 01 March 2004 03:07
	Re: legalities of pod filters	Les	Mon, 01 March 2004 04:38
	Re: legalities of pod filters	ed_ma61	Mon, 01 March 2004 06:48
	Re: legalities of pod filters	speakafreaka	Mon, 01 March 2004 07:45
	Re: legalities of pod filters	T APLUS 22	Mon, 01 March 2004 08:37
	Re: legalities of pod filters	charliechalk	Mon, 01 March 2004 07:47
	Re: legalities of pod filters	ed_ma61	Mon, 01 March 2004 09:58
	Re: legalities of pod filters	Les	Tue, 02 March 2004 13:44
	Re: legalities of pod filters	-=NiGz=-	Thu, 04 March 2004 01:09
	Re: legalities of pod filters	Cool1	Mon, 01 March 2004 09:21
	Re: legalities of pod filters	Youngy	Wed, 03 March 2004 05:45
	Re: legalities of pod filters	jackel	Wed, 03 March 2004 17:00
	Re: legalities of pod filters	onejayzed	Thu, 04 March 2004 06:26
	Re: legalities of pod filters	Clown	Thu, 04 March 2004 08:52
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