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Re: 1jz ma61 vs 1jz ma70
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Mon, 02 February 2004 22:12
 
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The ma61 would kick its ass i every aspect, except for looks, i do rate the MA70 aesthetics over the MA61, but the MA61 has its own coolness appeal.
Plus the MA61 weighs a few hundred KG less than the MA70.
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Re: 1jz ma61 vs 1jz ma70
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Mon, 02 February 2004 22:23
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what about comfort dude ??
also we are comparing 85ish to 89ish car....
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Re: 1jz ma61 vs 1jz ma70
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Mon, 02 February 2004 22:25
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the seats are almost identical.....except ma70 was available in leather and with electric adjustable seats.
But yes the MA70 interior is alot nicer
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Re: 1jz ma61 vs 1jz ma70
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Mon, 02 February 2004 22:51
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u sound MUCH keener for the MA61 though bro !!
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Re: 1jz ma61 vs 1jz ma70
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Mon, 02 February 2004 23:05
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go and drive both.....or allow other to comment 
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Re: 1jz ma61 vs 1jz ma70
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Mon, 02 February 2004 23:15
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getting a 1jz ma61 on the road for under $10k would not be easy
I'd go for the ma61 too - it's a lot less porky. In terms of looks, I think they both have strong points, and are both pretty sexy (other people will tell you the ma61 is ugly as sin, but they're all wrong )
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Re: 1jz ma61 vs 1jz ma70
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Mon, 02 February 2004 23:20
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whoever thinks they are ugly should be shot...
they are both sexy cars 
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Re: 1jz ma61 vs 1jz ma70
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Mon, 02 February 2004 23:44
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1jz Ma61 will be quicker due to weight difference, but a more difficult conversion compare to the MA70. Plus you could always just buy jza70 - saving money and time by not having to swap engines etc. Or if you only want a 1jz get a Soarer!
Ma70 is a better cruising car (true "Grand Touring" car) with more room, adjustable steering wheel, electric seat (man i love that thing!) and although heavy is made to feel a lot lighter with the 1j under the bonnet. They handle brilliantly too with an excellent suspension setup and TEMS shocks (not all have these). Plus diff's are stronger and there's a lot of otions around. If Iwere going to do a conversion to an ma70 I'd go with a 2j rather than a 1j. Upfront costs would be higher and it would be a lot harder but people have done it before and you can fit the 6 speed in it!
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Re: 1jz ma61 vs 1jz ma70
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Mon, 02 February 2004 23:44
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The MA61 is the clear winner for price and performance (thanks to its much lower weight). The MA70 has the obvious advantage of being newer and thus has a nicer interior, but that's not to say the MA61 isn't nice; it still has all the goodies like aircon, power windows, central locking, electric mirrors etc. As for looks that's purely subjective so you'll have to make up your own mind.
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Re: 1jz ma61 vs 1jz ma70
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Mon, 02 February 2004 23:46
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if you want the 6-speed, upfront costs will be a lot higher
people dont let those getrag v160s go cheaply
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Re: 1jz ma61 vs 1jz ma70
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Mon, 02 February 2004 23:48
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| lumpy wrote on Tue, 03 February 2004 10:44 |
1jz Ma61 will be quicker due to weight difference, but a more difficult conversion compare to the MA70. Plus you could always just buy jza70 - saving money and time by not having to swap engines etc. Or if you only want a 1jz get a Soarer!
Ma70 is a better cruising car (true "Grand Touring" car) with more room, adjustable steering wheel, electric seat (man i love that thing!) and although heavy is made to feel a lot lighter with the 1j under the bonnet. They handle brilliantly too with an excellent suspension setup and TEMS shocks (not all have these). Plus diff's are stronger and there's a lot of otions around. If Iwere going to do a conversion to an ma70 I'd go with a 2j rather than a 1j. Upfront costs would be higher and it would be a lot harder but people have done it before and you can fit the 6 speed in it!
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sorru i did mean the jza70 in the subject - it has been edited.. 
thanks dood - so basiaclly im comparing the stock jza70
do many of these come in manual ??
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Re: 1jz ma61 vs 1jz jza70
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Mon, 02 February 2004 23:58
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There seems to be a lot more manual jza70's around than manual Soarers. You can get the Jza70 type R which all were manual (pretty sure) and had Bilstein shocks, Recaro seats, Analogue (dial type) Gauges - which I think look heaps better than digital dashes - and a few other goodies.
I doubt you'd get much of a jza70 for $10K, more like $15K will buy you a nice example.
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Re: 1jz ma61 vs 1jz jza70
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Tue, 03 February 2004 00:02
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hmmm - for 15k ud have a pretty FCKING good MA61......
need to stay around 10k, so it seems that the jza70 is out of reach !
or is that only the type R version ?
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Re: 1jz ma61 vs 1jz jza70
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Tue, 03 February 2004 00:08
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you will get burnt for a $10K jza70
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Re: 1jz ma61 vs 1jz jza70
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Tue, 03 February 2004 00:14
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hmmm ok ... for 10k, that would get a 7mgte ma70 ?
how do they compare to the jza's? or are they completely different i.e. looks wise also ?
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Re: 1jz ma61 vs 1jz jza70
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Tue, 03 February 2004 00:36
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Les,
How about you properly enjoy your 1GGTE RA65 for a while before starting something else! 
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Re: 1jz ma61 vs 1jz jza70
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Tue, 03 February 2004 00:39
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i cant..... itchy feet !!!
lol
how are your car(s) coming along man !!!
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Re: 1jz ma61 vs 1jz jza70
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Tue, 03 February 2004 00:41
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Waiting on panels to come back from someone then I can spray the final coats of POR15 and primer.
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 Re: 1jz ma61 vs 1jz jza70
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Tue, 03 February 2004 00:44
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nice bro .. nice
also ... i need a car cuz my dad is on my arse about getting another car as he is stuck at home when i use his ! hahah celica will take at least another 4 weekends.... 
(re outlook ...i turned RICH TEXT on.. and that apparently stuffs up attachments!!)
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Re: 1jz ma61 vs 1jz jza70
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Tue, 03 February 2004 00:47
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And how long do you think a 1JZ MA61 is going to take??? Longer than 4 weekends for sure!
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Re: 1jz ma61 vs 1jz jza70
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Tue, 03 February 2004 03:45
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I'm nearly a year into my 1JZ => MA61 conversion, so no, it's not quick. But I reckon when done it will rock!
JZA70 has the advantage of having the engine you want already in. And usually you'd be very lucky to make your money back on an engine conversion, so JZA70 would probably be better value resale-wise. But JZA60 has gotta be a heap more fun to own & drive!
Justin
JZA61
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Re: 1jz ma61 vs 1jz jza70
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Tue, 03 February 2004 03:55
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I've driven an MA71 and later driven the same car converted to a JZA70. The car is much nicer to drive with the 1JZ, very smooth and loves to rev without sacrificing much in low-rpm drivability. The JZA70 is definitely the pick of the Mk3 Supra's.
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Re: 1jz ma61 vs 1jz jza70
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Tue, 03 February 2004 10:52
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I myself own a jza70 r model, there are some auto ones as i have seen them myself, they have factory, bilstein, mine does not have tems, but has got recaros, etc the normal R stuff. I payed $11,500 for mine I live in W.A. only things had done to it was pod, timer and cat back 3". and works absolutely fine, the guy had it in the paper for about $13,000. but hell i love my car... I have not been in a MA70 to tell u the difference. but in the end its your car man so it is up to you. Sure the ma61 would be a sleeper with a 1j and probably quicker than a JZA70 but I will stick with my car, my opinion anyway, as much as I like sleepers though...
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Re: 1jz ma61 vs 1jz jza70
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Tue, 03 February 2004 11:13
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Jza70 is the pick, They out handle the ma60's and have a lot of good features such as ABS and tough drivelines (auto AND Manual).
In this case ( though I have a factory 5 speed) I dont think i would be that disapointed with an auto version either (heaps cheaper) they have proven themselves to be very quick at the drag strip and quite capable everywhere else.
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1jz ma61 vs 1jz jza70
