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Are pod filters illegal?
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Thu, 31 July 2003 03:22
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I've heard that pod filters are illegal unless housed in a "filter box" - in which case you might as well just fit a panel filter.
Anyone know if this is true?
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July 2003
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Re: Are pod filters illegal?
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Thu, 31 July 2003 03:43
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Yeha any alterations to inlet & exhaust is illegal unless engineered.
in some cars, panel filters are better that the pod filter set up
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Brisbane
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July 2003
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Re: Are pod filters illegal?
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Thu, 31 July 2003 05:57
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| MR2SUM wrote on Thu, 31 July 2003 13:43 |
Yeha any alterations to inlet & exhaust is illegal unless engineered.
in some cars, panel filters are better that the pod filter set up
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extractors arent illegal... and they dont need to be engineered
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Sydney
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April 2003
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Re: Are pod filters illegal?
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Thu, 31 July 2003 06:08
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yes its true - pod filters are illegal unless housed inside a filter box, just go and get a K&N panel filter ... less hassle.
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July 2003
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Re: Are pod filters illegal?
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Thu, 31 July 2003 07:20
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..less hassle, but what about performance difference?
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Sydney
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April 2003
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Re: Are pod filters illegal?
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Fri, 01 August 2003 00:18
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well performance wise ... an air filter change will not unlock an extra 100hp or something ... it will probably give u a slight gain top end and make your engine rev easier.
Pods will not get their full benefit unless you have a proper cold air induction system otherwise u'd just be sucking in hot air which would reduce any performance gain possible.
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Sydney
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July 2002
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Re: Are pod filters illegal?
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Fri, 01 August 2003 01:48
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To get a pod filter engineered you need an emmissions test and a noise (drive by) test. Mine is engineered and it is not in an enclosed box.
The ONLY reason to have it inside an enclosed box is so that it can't be seen - and defected. Its still illegal.
If you want specific answers, talk to an engineer. PM me if you want the phone number of mine (Phil Scott).
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March 2003
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Re: Are pod filters illegal?
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Fri, 01 August 2003 06:00
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i was told the reason you "need" to have it in a box (rta's reason) is that its a fire hazard
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Brissy QLD
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March 2004
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Re: Are pod filters illegal?
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Sun, 11 April 2004 10:51
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i dunno if anyone will respond to this but how much does it cost you to get it engineerd?
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I supported Toymods
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May 2002
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Re: Are pod filters illegal?
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Sun, 11 April 2004 11:25
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Why would you not want to have it in a box anyway? Just sitting in the engine bay it will be sucking in hot air.
It would be better in a box with cool air directed into it.
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Brissy QLD
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March 2004
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Re: Are pod filters illegal?
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Sun, 11 April 2004 11:37
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that didn't really answer my question.
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Brisbane
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July 2002
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Re: Are pod filters illegal?
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Sun, 11 April 2004 11:40
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just use a standard panel one and run some CAI up into a hole in the box
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I supported Toymods
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Re: Are pod filters illegal?
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Sun, 11 April 2004 11:59
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| DunkyMonkey wrote on Sun, 11 April 2004 21:37 |
that didn't really answer my question.
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Ok ok, i'll bite.
The cost of engineering will come down to what you want engineered! What do you want engineered?
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Location:
Brisbane, QLD, Australia
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May 2002
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Re: Are pod filters illegal?
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Sun, 11 April 2004 12:02
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Even if it was boxed, I still fail to see it performing better.
To me it would be like a plug hole in the sink. The water (air), just swirls around until it goes in the hole, while a panel is more or less straight through (like cutting the bottom off the sink and turning the water on), which gives it a greater direct area of contact.
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Re: Are pod filters illegal?
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Sun, 11 April 2004 14:10
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| speakafreaka wrote on Fri, 01 August 2003 16:00 |
i was told the reason you "need" to have it in a box (rta's reason) is that its a fire hazard
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Didnt you know, it may explode if its not in a box ... 
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Brisbane, QLD, Australia
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May 2002
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Re: Are pod filters illegal?
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Sun, 11 April 2004 14:13
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| Les wrote on Mon, 12 April 2004 00:10 |
| speakafreaka wrote on Fri, 01 August 2003 16:00 |
i was told the reason you "need" to have it in a box (rta's reason) is that its a fire hazard
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Didnt you know, it may explode if its not in a box ...
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Nah, you just gotta watch out for those EFI carbies. They'll backflash on you in a major way. 
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Adelaide
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May 2003
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Re: Are pod filters illegal?
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Mon, 12 April 2004 14:13
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oil soaked cloth = fire hazard! end of story!
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Ballarat, Vic.
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September 2002
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Re: Are pod filters illegal?
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Mon, 12 April 2004 16:05
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wellllll technicly the mr2's is in its own box...... im gathering you'd classify the boot as a box 
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Location:
Melbourne
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February 2004
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Re: Are pod filters illegal?
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Mon, 12 April 2004 17:46
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Everything comes down to mood and attitude.
I was pulled over over the weekend and the cop looked under my bonnet. I have an apexi air pod and he didn't give a shit.
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Adelaide
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September 2003
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Re: Are pod filters illegal?
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Fri, 16 April 2004 01:13
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Pod filters are legal according to ADR rules. And no, you don't need to get it engineered if a pod filter is added. However, the rules state that it must be a non-oiled type filter, the MAS must not be removed or modified in any way. It must also not be too loud with the intake sound. Tehy also do not need to be in their own box, people generally do this for cold air.
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Re: Are pod filters illegal?
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Fri, 16 April 2004 02:21
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a question of too loud... does the cop need to send u away to get the sound tested ??? they cant just say " oh ur car is too loud.. DFEFECT" can they ?
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Yagoona Sydney
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December 2003
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Re: Are pod filters illegal?
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Fri, 16 April 2004 02:27
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yeh they can...... i got defected because my exhaust was to loud.... he did not even test it and i also had an engineers certificate! damn cabramatta police suck!!!!!
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May 2002
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Re: Are pod filters illegal?
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Fri, 16 April 2004 02:31
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did u try to contest him there and then ???????
what did he say ? ur eng cert must HAVE the exhausts volume in dBs ... so he cant say shii* !
cop pulled me over once at rbt and said i quote ....
"u SOUNDED like u were going very fast young man"
my response " i was going 60 all the way sir ... "
"well u SOUNDED really fast to me ... "
my response .. "prove it"
he shut up and gave my car the once over .. but found nothin wrong and said.. again i quote !!
"highway patrol will have a field day with u.... get lost"
pu55y hahaha
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Brissy QLD
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March 2004
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Re: Are pod filters illegal?
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Fri, 16 April 2004 03:07
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YAY go the person that knows the ADR rules, now does anyone know where i can pick up a copy of the ADR's
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I supported Toymods
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Brisbane
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May 2002
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Re: Are pod filters illegal?
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Fri, 16 April 2004 04:04
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ADR's can be had from the Transport Dept. But, in Queensland if your car came with an air box it MUST be fitted UNLESS you do a full noise emissions test.
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south east - melbourne
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March 2004
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Re: Are pod filters illegal?
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Fri, 16 April 2004 05:14
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IN MELBOURNE
POD FILTER IS IILEGAL ONLY IF ITS A OIL BASED ONE
IF ITS A DRY FILTER ELEMENT LIKE THE APEXI
ITS LEGAL
K&N IS IILEGAL AS THEY ARE OIL BASED
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Sydney
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April 2004
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Re: Are pod filters illegal?
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Fri, 16 April 2004 10:49
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Pod filters need to be boxed as an exposed filter "could be a fire hazard in the event of a backfire"
Any mod needs to be engineered atherwisw highway patrol will rape you.
Any engineering usually costs around 600 - 700...
Just going from experience with a 13b turbo conversion.
And the oiled and non oiled, doesnt matter. The rotary couldnt get a certificate with a dry hks filter and no box as it "could be a fire hazard in the event of a backfire"...
Just my two cents
Mitch
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Melbourne
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August 2003
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Re: Are pod filters illegal?
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Sun, 18 April 2004 08:36
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| Apollo wrote on Mon, 12 April 2004 00:13 |
Nah, you just gotta watch out for those EFI carbies. They'll backflash on you in a major way.
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Are you telling me there's something special about a pod-shaped filter that precludes its sue on a carburetted motor? Surely you're not...
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Club Member
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Sydney, NSW
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May 2002
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Re: Are pod filters illegal?
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Sun, 18 April 2004 08:40
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I'm running a K&N Panel Filter in the stock air box with cold air induction... Sounds the goods and has heaps better flow...
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