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I supported Toymods
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stupid question #1 for the night
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Fri, 14 May 2004 14:44
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gbox oil filling rules...
1. drain gbox oil
2. remove gear stick & oil filler plug
3. fill gearstick hole until oil comes out filler hole
4. replace gearstick & filler plug
does this sound good? (a little fried, want to make sure I get it right)
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I supported Toymods
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Re: stupid question #1 for the night
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Fri, 14 May 2004 16:13
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2. replace drain plug!
I think this one's important enough to have it's own step. 
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Re: stupid question #1 for the night
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Fri, 14 May 2004 23:39
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| BigWorm wrote on Sat, 15 May 2004 02:13 |
2. replace drain plug!
I think this one's important enough to have it's own step.
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why.... maybe he wants to drain his brand new oil too? 
thats how i understand it.. but u would know better than i
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Re: stupid question #1 for the night
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Sat, 15 May 2004 00:04
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Haha I've missed that step a few times... usually results in a string of coarse language.
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I supported Toymods
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Re: stupid question #1 for the night
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Sat, 15 May 2004 02:31
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I hope I would've remembered that, but thanks for pointing it out joel
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sunny coast, qld
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Re: stupid question #1 for the night
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Sat, 15 May 2004 03:40
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why would you fill it up until it comes out the tube? don't you just fill it up until it says it is full on the stick?
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I supported Toymods
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Re: stupid question #1 for the night
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Sat, 15 May 2004 03:42
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Possibly gonna make a fool of myself here but........ he is asking about gearbox oil not engine oil, hence no dipstick
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Re: stupid question #1 for the night
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Sat, 15 May 2004 03:56
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remove gearstick ay?
that is a RWD feature only I believe.. what is teh reason for that too btw? jyst wondering..
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Adelaide
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Re: stupid question #1 for the night
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Sat, 15 May 2004 04:04
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Aye RWD only.
Its because the fill plug is at a bitch of a point on most RWD cars.
Like on my sprinter its almost flush with the floorpan, so you cant get a bottle in to fill it up. Either you use a pump or you jack the rear end of the car up and fill through the gear selector hole, much easier.
Just dont splill it, makes the carpet stink.
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Re: stupid question #1 for the night
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Sat, 15 May 2004 04:24
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| Chris Davey wrote on Sat, 15 May 2004 13:40 |
why would you fill it up until it comes out the tube? don't you just fill it up until it says it is full on the stick?
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i was actually referring to how i changed my auto gearbox fluid. never changed gearbox oil on a manual car. Learn something new everyday
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Re: stupid question #1 for the night
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Sat, 15 May 2004 04:26
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don't worry, i got it now 
on a different wavelength today
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Auckland NZ
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Re: stupid question #1 for the night
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Sat, 15 May 2004 04:47
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i hate to admit it but i never thought of removing the gearstick and using it as a filling point , 10 points to whoever came up with that one.
cheers
Matt
ps: these points are redeemable for ......................
...................absolutely nothing
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I supported Toymods
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Re: stupid question #1 for the night
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Sat, 15 May 2004 05:21
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wasn't my idea - i ripped it off these forums somewhere
is it necessary to jack up the rear of the car?
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Re: stupid question #1 for the night
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Sat, 15 May 2004 05:59
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| boris wrote on Sat, 15 May 2004 13:42 |
he is asking about gearbox oil not engine oil, hence no dipstick
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 i think theres a few "dipsticks" here
Allan
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Re: stupid question #1 for the night
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Sat, 15 May 2004 10:19
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Greg - the car should be level when you do this, so jacking up is not necessary. I find that across the dip in a driveway is a good place, and girlfriends, mums, dads, the dude from across the street make good sighters. If it is quite enough you can hear the oil drip into the ice cream container, or stormwater drain (NOT recommended) from inside the car.
Do not try to pour too fast or Norbie's string of coarse language will surely ensue.
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I supported Toymods
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Re: stupid question #1 for the night
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Sat, 15 May 2004 10:29
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I've got a catchpan - being a car nut is my one vice as an otherwise environmentally friendly person
also have a funnel, to hopefully keep my brand new carpets clean
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Re: stupid question #1 for the night
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Sat, 15 May 2004 10:30
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cant u just use a syringe you use on diffs? Ive never changed a w58 box oil before..just guessing?
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I supported Toymods
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Re: stupid question #1 for the night
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Sat, 15 May 2004 10:32
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indeed - and if I had one, I would
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Re: stupid question #1 for the night
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Sat, 15 May 2004 10:33
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are they like $15 at supercheap? Saves risking your new carpets! 
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Re: stupid question #1 for the night
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Sat, 15 May 2004 11:04
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handy hint - undo the filler plug out before removing the the drain plug. it really sucks to drop the oil then find you cant undo the filler plug to pour it all back in 
although you could always pour it through the shifter.
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Re: stupid question #1 for the night
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Sat, 15 May 2004 12:24
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how often are u meant to change it
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Re: stupid question #1 for the night
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Sat, 15 May 2004 12:53
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| YelloRolla wrote on Sat, 15 May 2004 22:41 |
Supposed to change it every 2 yrs (I think - suppose that means 40K).
Greg, funnel is like a false sense of security - don't go too fast.
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i do about 5000k a year lol
i do fuck all driving
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I supported Toymods
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Re: stupid question #1 for the night
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Sat, 15 May 2004 12:58
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I know jason
the funnel is to catch the first and last bits - I've made the mistake of filling too fast witha funnel, and ended up with a 22R covered in oil
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Re: stupid question #1 for the night
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Sat, 15 May 2004 13:04
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arnt all 22rs covered in oil?
or all Rs for that matter.
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Re: stupid question #1 for the night
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Sat, 15 May 2004 14:03
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| Bugman wrote on Sat, 15 May 2004 23:04 |
arnt all 22rs covered in oil?
or all Rs for that matter.
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Is it restricted to R series ? Shit 
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Re: stupid question #1 for the night
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Sat, 15 May 2004 14:22
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does this sound good? (a little fried, want to make sure I get it right)
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simple answer, dont work on your car when fried.... 
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Re: stupid question #1 for the night
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Sun, 16 May 2004 01:27
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| V8_MA61 wrote on Sat, 15 May 2004 20:30 |
cant u just use a syringe you use on diffs? Ive never changed a w58 box oil before..just guessing?
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what is the syringe you speak of?
I changed my diff oil last week and I got a pointy bit like the ones on a tube of silicone and fitted it into the lid of a coke bottle poor the oil in coke bottle and squeeze it in. worked alright And I kept the lid and can use it on a different bottle next time. Same sort of thing?
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Re: stupid question #1 for the night
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Sun, 16 May 2004 01:33
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You could use a syringe or a home-made contraption like that, but you'll be there all day filling up a W58.
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Re: stupid question #1 for the night
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Sun, 16 May 2004 01:36
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Or you could make a nice oversight like i did when pulling apart my S-series rear yesterday and forget that the entire axle shaft is encased in oil. I just pulled the axle out and out comes this smelly diff oil all over my leg 
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I supported Toymods
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Re: stupid question #1 for the night
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Sun, 16 May 2004 13:10
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1 litre?
I think the w58 takes 2.2l
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Re: stupid question #1 for the night
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Sun, 16 May 2004 13:13
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| Norbie wrote on Sun, 16 May 2004 11:33 |
You could use a syringe or a home-made contraption like that, but you'll be there all day filling up a W58.
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true that...cant say cos i never done one..just a diff in my ma70 
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Re: stupid question #1 for the night
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Mon, 17 May 2004 02:36
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actually didn't take that long. My diff took close to 4L and it took about 5 minutes. Got pretty sore fingers after a while though
anyway, back on topic.
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Re: stupid question #1 for the night
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Mon, 17 May 2004 11:34
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id love to be able to fill my diff up
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Re: stupid question #1 for the night
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Tue, 18 May 2004 03:41
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Hey, what oil are you using for yout gearbox, I have been wondering if it's worth trying something with a different EP number with the hope of improving the shift quality.
Any Suggestions????
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Re: stupid question #1 for the night
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Tue, 18 May 2004 08:06
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| Chris Davey wrote on Mon, 17 May 2004 12:36 |
actually didn't take that long. My diff took close to 4L and it took about 5 minutes. Got pretty sore fingers after a while though
anyway, back on topic.
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Back off topic - 4L for a diff. What is it; a Dana 6500000?
Anthony, I tried a mix of auto trans and ST90, shift seemed to be pretty good. I don't think that other parts of the gearbox liked it (synchros were pretty stuffed by the time that I pulled it out).
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