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Geelong.Vic.AU
Registered:
September 2003
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Problem starting my st162
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Thu, 24 June 2004 06:16
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Ey all,
I have a problem trying to start my celica, once in ~40 starts the car just wont go. All I hear is a click but no noise from the startermotor or engine.
Its seems if I wiggle the + terminal, the car will start. I have cleaned all the terminals but it has made no difference.
I read something about a relay going to the startermotor but I havent seen any wireing diagrams or pics.
If any one can offer me some suggestions it be great.
Cheers
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Location:
Melb, Victoria
Registered:
April 2004
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Re: Problem starting my st162
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Thu, 24 June 2004 09:12
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maybe the solinoid on ur starter motor is dying?next time it happens, try tapping the starter motor. (if u can reach them, sorry not sure  )
i know my friend had real simular probs with his falcon and thats what he use to do to start his car.lol
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Location:
QLD, Gold Coast
Registered:
February 2004
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Re: Problem starting my st162
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Thu, 24 June 2004 09:25
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Yeah i had the same problem, on cold starts, i got NRMA to fit in starter relay kit, and my cars started everytime, although i think my starter motor is about to give, but yeah starter relay seem to do the trick, about 89 bucks.
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I supported Toymods
Location:
Sunshine Coast
Registered:
March 2004
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Re: Problem starting my st162
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Thu, 24 June 2004 12:01
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flat battery.dodgy alternator,dodgy starter motor, something wrong in the the ignition
thers some possibilties
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Location:
Elwood, Melb
Registered:
August 2003
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Re: Problem starting my st162
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Thu, 24 June 2004 14:58
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KICK IT!!! Or maybe put some fuel in it, nah just kidding, it's most likely your starter, because normaly you should hear a few clicks if it isn't. 2c
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Location:
Gold Coast, QLD
Registered:
April 2004
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Location:
Geelong.Vic.AU
Registered:
September 2003
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Re: Problem starting my st162
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Thu, 24 June 2004 23:58
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Hmm something new happend tonight, now when my car starts, just after it kicks over the starter gives a clicking noise, I think it may be on the way out. I will have to see about getting a starter relay. Ill get the mechanic to have a look today.
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Location:
Canberra
Registered:
February 2004
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Re: Problem starting my st162
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Fri, 25 June 2004 02:40
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The starter is probly sticking on. Better fix this before your looking for another flywheel. Get a recon starter.
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Location:
Geelong.Vic.AU
Registered:
September 2003
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Re: Problem starting my st162
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Fri, 25 June 2004 03:25
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Ok
I may have fixed the problem (touch wood  )
As i found that I already have a relay installed (zip tied to the + cable), I decided to disconnect it and check all the connections. As i removed the tape from it, one of the connection fell right off. I cleaned all the contacts and put them on more securly. I taped and ziptied it together and it hasent happend since.
This would explan why shaking the + battery termanal would fix things but then after a drive it would not start again.
Also the starter is sounding normal again.
I hope its fixed.
Thanx for the help everyone.
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Location:
Brisbane
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December 2002
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Re: Problem starting my st162
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Fri, 25 June 2004 09:28
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I think it must be the motor ,especially if its a turbo engine... so give it to me...LOL
Seriously, yep I say starter too.
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Location:
Melbourne
Registered:
June 2004
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Re: Problem starting my st162
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Sat, 26 June 2004 03:25
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I think I have the same problem. This morning I tried to start my ST162 and all it did was click over and over, and the lights/stereo flashed on and off and i heard nothing coming from the starter motor etc.
I'm reading some pretty useful info on that celica.net site, but I'm having trouble understanding the diagrams for the wires etc. I'm not sure if I'm doing the right thing by doing this either...
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Location:
Geelong.Vic.AU
Registered:
September 2003
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Re: Problem starting my st162
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Sat, 26 June 2004 08:50
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first thing to do is check to see if you have a relay, if you do, then the wires may be loose, or the fuse maybe blown. If you dont, then you will have to get one.
The diagram is stupid and very hard to follow, look at what wire they say goes to each pin, its easy to figgure out then.
*I HIGHLY reccomend you solder the terminals on the relay, saves you from haveing the problems i did*
Heres a description right from the celica.net forum, posted by 88BlackGT-S
"This fix was posted by me over a year ago when I was just getting into fixin' my car, so here goes again. If you can wire a car stereo then you should have no problem with the starter relay fix.
Buy a 12V auto relay, wire the terminals as follows(only 4 wires to hookup):
87 - +12V (fuse this wire at battery with 30 amp)
85 - Ground (battery or chassis your choice)
86 - starter solenoid wire (ignition side)
30 - starter solenoid wire (starter side)
***The starter solenoid wire is the smaller wire coming off the starter. Black w/yellow stripe I believe, there is a connector which you will have to cutt off in order to splice in the relay. While you are at it remove starter and check the big wire for corrosion, if so replace or clean up. Starter is located underneath the exhaust manifold. Pain in a** to remove, but worth doing at least once.
You can use solderless terminals or you can solder all the connections for even better reliability, best to use 12 to 14 gauge wire for the connections. Wrap everything with electrical tape to keep out water and dirt."
[Updated on: Sat, 26 June 2004 08:57]
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Location:
Melbourne
Registered:
June 2004
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Re: Problem starting my st162
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Sat, 26 June 2004 09:07
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Thanks doobs for the info. I'm getting a service real soon so my mechanic'll have a look at it (I'll still check if I have a relay and do what I can etc.)
Cheers. 
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Location:
Elwood, Melb
Registered:
August 2003
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Re: Problem starting my st162
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Sat, 26 June 2004 13:23
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| Ice_majik wrote on Fri, 25 June 2004 19:28 |
I think it must be the motor ,especially if its a turbo engine... so give it to me...LOL
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WTF?
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Location:
Geelong.Vic.AU
Registered:
September 2003
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Re: Problem starting my st162
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Sun, 27 June 2004 11:32
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| patrick wrote on Sat, 26 June 2004 19:07 |
Thanks doobs for the info. I'm getting a service real soon so my mechanic'll have a look at it (I'll still check if I have a relay and do what I can etc.)
Cheers.
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Ahh thats cool, but if its a loose connection on ya relay, dont let the mechanic charge you $xxx to fix it, do it ya self and save a few $s.
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