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Wolf3D
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Simmons 16s 4x114.3 with Pics Sun, 27 June 2004 23:25 Go to next message
Set of 4 Simmons wheels
Front: 16x8
Back: 16x9
Just powdercoated in White and unused since restoration.
No center caps, but these are real simmons.
4x115 stud patern RWD offset.
These were on a mid 80s mazda 929, but will fit most Toyota and dattos, and I think R31 Skyline/Pintara. Pluss lots more I presume.
Tyres are in great condition, and are all 225s (con't remember the profile, but can check later if you want).
These are pretty fat, so prefer Melbourne buyer to try them on their car before buying. They do fit on my RX4 even with these tyres, but the stud patern is wrong, so that's why I'm selling.

Price: $850
Location: Melbourne, SE Suburbs
Email me at: mcorish@bigpond.net.au

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Re: Simmons 16s 4x115 with Pics Sun, 27 June 2004 23:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
I am interested what suberb are you in? also which size and type of tires do you have on them right now? I am in Endeavour Hills
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Re: Simmons 16s 4x115 with Pics Sun, 27 June 2004 23:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
I'm in Mt Waverley.
The profile of the tyres I can't remember off hand, but they are almost commodore size. The back tyres are Bridgestone Turanzas (Right in picture), and the left ones are also brand name, but I can't remember what.
I'll get details tonight.

What are you thinking of putting them on?

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Re: Simmons 16s 4x115 with Pics Mon, 28 June 2004 00:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Tyres on the left look like Kelly Chargers with that pattern.
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Re: Simmons 16s 4x115 with Pics Mon, 28 June 2004 01:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
rim offset? it should be stamped on the inside of the rim.

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Re: Simmons 16s 4x115 with Pics Mon, 28 June 2004 01:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
I'll have a look again, but I didn't see any, because they are 3 piece, and the offset is relative to what dish you bolt onto the front. For that matter if you wanted you could put the 8s on the back, and buy a new inner and narrow the 9s down to 7s. would cost about $80-100 a wheel I'm told.

I think it would be safe to say they would fit most RWD, but not FWD. That's why I'd like people to try them on to see, because even if I give you an offset and it seems right, It would still be best to wack them ond and check, partcularly as they are fat bastards. Look tough as if you can fit them under! 80s celicas and stuff should be fine.
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Re: Simmons 16s 4x115 with Pics Mon, 28 June 2004 02:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Would be ideal for a MA61 Supra.

Bugger that I have changed from 4 stud to 5 Sad
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Re: Simmons 16s 4x115 with Pics Mon, 28 June 2004 03:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
what did you use to change stud pattern? i want to do that to my corona mark 2 so i have a bit of a choice what wheels i can put on it! i thought of trying crown stub axles and a crown rear axle assembly.
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Re: Simmons 16s 4x115 with Pics Mon, 28 June 2004 03:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
should still be some form of marking on the rims. failing that i suppose you/we could work out the offset the old fashioned way (ruler & tape)

i'm looking at them for a 240z by the way.

all 4 got tyres on them?

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Re: Simmons 16s 4x115 with Pics Mon, 28 June 2004 03:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
joecoolmk2 wrote on Mon, 28 June 2004 13:30

what did you use to change stud pattern? i want to do that to my corona mark 2 so i have a bit of a choice what wheels i can put on it! i thought of trying crown stub axles and a crown rear axle assembly.


MS65 front hubs and MS123 rear stubs. The Corona Mk2 is a live axle, so I think to do the rear you can go the Hilux route ala GT and others.

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Re: Simmons 16s 4x115 with Pics Mon, 28 June 2004 04:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
I would be putting it on an Sprinter, a tight squeze but acheiveable I think. If you could measure the offset by hand of the rims that would be great.
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Re: Simmons 16s 4x115 with Pics Mon, 28 June 2004 05:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
I'll look for markings tonight, and measure them the best I can with a ruler. Will have a diagram up soon. But feel free to just come and try them on. PM me to make a time.

They all have tyres on them, and they are all road worthy.
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Re: Simmons 16s 4x115 with Pics Mon, 28 June 2004 09:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
pity I've been at work all day.
if they suit an MA61 supra (offset 0-10, too small for 240z, sprinter or old celica) then I will *definitly* take them, pay for postage, rub your thigh, whatever Smile
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Re: Simmons 16s 4x115 with Pics Mon, 28 June 2004 10:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
if they fit toyotas and dattos and r31 skyline they will be 4X114.3 Smile

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Re: Simmons 16s 4x115 with Pics Mon, 28 June 2004 11:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
I know - not worried about stud pattern, worried about offset Smile
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Re: Simmons 16s 4x115 with Pics Mon, 28 June 2004 14:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ok have just measured the dish of the wheels relative to the center. This is as close as I can get with a ruler, and as the totals come close to the width the wheels are supposed to be, then I guess it should be right.

Back wheels.
Front dish: 80mm
Back dish: 145mm

Front wheels
Front dish: 70mm
Back dish: 130mm

I hope this helps, but as I said, best bet is to try them on.
I'm actually pretty sure that the stud patern is 4X114.3 as stated, because after looking it up, that's what I found the 80s mazda 929s to have. On the ruler it looked like 115, but I'm sure it's actually 4x114.3. I'll edit the title of the post.

Here's more details on the tyres
Front: Kelly Charger 225/50 R16 (well spotted CLG)
Back: Bridgestone Turanza 225/55 R16

Hey draven What year is an MA61 Supra?
If I know someone with one, or can find one at pick a part, I'll give them a try on. But prefer Melbourne buyer.
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Re: Simmons 16s 4x115 with Pics Mon, 28 June 2004 14:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
what you have there is a +30 offset.
not ideal for sprinters of old celicas (which I think are around +20-25?) but pretty close.

the mk2 supra is 1984, and uses an offset of 0-10... so +30 is a bit too much
thanks for going to the trouble of measuring for me tho
the hunt for used simmons goes on ...
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Re: Simmons 16s 4x114.3 with Pics Mon, 28 June 2004 20:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
i got a set of 17x8 and 17x9 Simmons FR on my supra, MA61, the offset is + 28 they fit perfectly, and my car is very low!
i brought mine for 1500 and they are 3 months old, looks prettty sweet tho!
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Re: Simmons 16s 4x114.3 with Pics Mon, 28 June 2004 22:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
mk2garage wrote on Tue, 29 June 2004 06:15

i got a set of 17x8 and 17x9 Simmons FR on my supra, MA61, the offset is + 28 they fit perfectly, and my car is very low!
i brought mine for 1500 and they are 3 months old, looks prettty sweet tho!


I'll second that. I have some 16x8" B45's with +25mm offset (from a 300ZX) and they fit sweet.

Buy em Draven, as they are a very good deal. You'll then be avble to fit in some really good brakes as well. Very Happy

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Re: Simmons 16s 4x114.3 with Pics Mon, 28 June 2004 22:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
hmm... may fit my 240z - unfortunatly it has no motor in it right now so it can't be driven...

i'll check what offset the rims on it are.

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Re: Simmons 16s 4x114.3 with Pics Mon, 28 June 2004 23:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
T,
Where abouts in Melbourne are you?
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Re: Simmons 16s 4x114.3 with Pics Mon, 28 June 2004 23:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
I would like to have a look at these if possible, could you please send me a message at sam@telpacific.com.au please

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Re: Simmons 16s 4x114.3 with Pics Tue, 29 June 2004 00:58 Go to previous message
i'm in moorabbin/cheltenham.

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