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How to RAISE your 3SGTE from an ST185 GT4
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Sun, 15 August 2004 08:52
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I borrowed this from Alldata.
I still think dropping the engine downwards is easier but this could be of use to anyone wanting to raise OR lower the engine out of their ST185.
This information is also 99% the same as removing an engine from an ST205 and probably also an ST165.
DISCONNECT CABLE FROM NEGATIVE TERMINAL OF BATTERY CAUTION: Work must be started after approx. 20 seconds or longer from the time the ignition switch is turned to the "LOCK" position and the negative (-) terminal cable is disconnected from the battery.
REMOVE HOOD
REMOVE ENGINE UNDER COVERS
DRAIN ENGINE COOLANT
DRAIN ENGINE OIL
DRAIN TRANSAXLE OIL
REMOVE AIR CLEANER ASSEMBLY
Disconnect the air flow meter connector.
Disconnect the four air cleaner cap clips.
Disconnect the following hoses:
Air cleaner hose from turbocharger
PCV hose from cylinder head cover
Air hose from air tube
Remove the air cleaner cap, air flow meter assembly and element.
Remove the three bolts and air cleaner case.
DISCONNECT ACCELERATOR CABLE FROM THROTTLE BODY
REMOVE ENGINE RELAY BOX, AND DISCONNECT ENGINE WIRE CONNECTORS
Remove the two nuts, and disconnect the relay box from the battery.
Remove the lower cover from the relay box.
Disconnect the fusible link cassette and two connectors of the engine wire from the relay box.
REMOVE A/C RELAY BOX FROM BRACKET Remove the A/C relay box from the bracket.
REMOVE BATTERY
REMOVE INJECTOR SOLENOID RESISTOR AND FUEL PUMP RESISTOR
Disconnect the two connectors.
Remove the bolt, the solenoid resistor and fuel pump resistor assembly.
REMOVE RADIATOR
REMOVE RADIATOR RESERVOIR TANK Remove the two nuts and reservoir tank.
(w/ CRUISE CONTROL SYSTEM) REMOVE CRUISE CONTROL ACTUATOR
Remove the two nuts and actuator cover.
Remove the three bolts, and disconnect the actuator.
Disconnect the actuator connector.
Disconnect the cable from the actuator.
REMOVE SUSPENSION UPPER BRACE
Remove the two wiper arms.
Remove the outside lower windshield moulding.
Remove the two bolts, four nuts and upper brace.
REMOVE IGNITION COIL
Disconnect the ignition coil connector.
Disconnect the high-tension cord.
Remove the two bolts and ignition coil.
DISCONNECT WIRES AND CONNECTORS
Check connector.
Igniter connector.
Ground strap from LH fender apron.
REMOVE ENGINE WIRE BRACKET
Disconnect the wire clamp from the wire bracket.
Remove the two bolts and wire bracket.
REMOVE CHARCOAL CANISTER
Disconnect the two vacuum hoses from the charcoal canister.
Remove the two bolts and charcoal canister.
DISCONNECT HEATER HOSES
DISCONNECT SPEEDOMETER CABLE
DISCONNECT FUEL HOSES CAUTION: Catch leaking fuel in a container.
DISCONNECT CONNECTORS
Engine room wire connector.
Noise filter connector.
REMOVE STARTER
REMOVE CLUTCH RELEASE CYLINDER WITHOUT DISCONNECTING TUBE Remove the four bolts, release cylinder and tube from the transaxle.
DISCONNECT TRANSAXLE CONTROL CABLES FROM TRANSAXLE
DISCONNECT TURBOCHARGING PRESSURE SENSOR AND A/C ASV FROM BODY
Disconnect the turbocharging pressure sensor.
Disconnect the following hoses:
Two vacuum hoses from A/C ASV
Vacuum hose from turbocharging pressure sensor
Remove the bolt, and disconnect the turbocharging pressure sensor and A/C ASV from the body.
DISCONNECT HOSES
Brake booster vacuum hose from intake manifold.
Turbocharging pressure sensor hose from intake manifold.
DISCONNECT ENGINE WIRE
Engine wire clamp from wire bracket on RH fender apron.
Two cowl wire connectors.
DISCONNECT ENGINE WIRE FROM CABIN
Disconnect the following connectors:
Two engine ECU connectors
Two cowl wire connectors
A/C amplifier connector
Remove the two nuts, and pull out the engine wire from the cowl panel.
REMOVE SUSPENSION LOWER CROSSMEMBER Remove the four bolts, two nuts and lower crossmember.
REMOVE FRONT EXHAUST PIPE
Loosen the bolt, and disconnect the clamp from the bracket.
Remove the two bolts and nuts holding the front exhaust pipe to the center exhaust pipe.
Using a 14 mm deep socket wrench, remove the three nuts holding the front exhaust pipe to the catalytic converter.
Disconnect the support hook on the front exhaust pipe from the support bracket, and remove the front exhaust pipe and two gaskets.
REMOVE DRIVE SHAFTS
REMOVE FRONT PROPELLER SHAFT
REMOVE DEFLECTOR FROM TRANSFER EXTENSION HOUSING
REMOVE DYNAMIC DAMPER FROM TRANSFER EXTENSION HOUSING
REMOVE ALTERNATOR
REMOVE IDLER PULLEY BRACKET AND A/C COMPRESSOR WITHOUT DISCONNECTING HOSES
Disconnect the A/C compressor connector.
Remove the four bolts and idler pulley bracket, and disconnect the A/C compressor. HINT: Put aside the compressor, and suspend it to the radiator support with a string.
REMOVE PS PUMP WITHOUT DISCONNECTING HOSES
Disconnect the two air hoses from the air pipe.
Remove the PS drive belt.
Remove the four bolts, and disconnect the PS pump from the engine. HINT: Put aside the pump and suspend it to the cowl with a string.
REMOVE ENGINE MOUNTING CENTER MEMBER Remove the eight bolts and center member.
REMOVE FRONT ENGINE MOUNTING INSULATOR AND BRACKET
Remove the through bolt, nut and mounting insulator.
Remove the two bolts and mounting bracket.
REMOVE REAR ENGINE MOUNTING INSULATOR AND BRACKET
Remove the through bolt and mounting insulator.
Remove the three bolts and mounting bracket.
REMOVE CATALYTIC CONVERTER
Remove the four bolts and RH converter stay.
Remove the three bolts and LH converter stay.
Remove the three bolts, two nuts, catalytic converter, cushion, retainer and gasket.
REMOVE RH ENGINE MOUNTING STAY Remove the bolt, nut and mounting stay.
REMOVE LH ENGINE MOUNTING STAY
Remove the bolt, nut and mounting stay.
Remove the bolt, and disconnect the ground strap.
REMOVE ENGINE AND TRANSAXLE ASSEMBLY FROM VEHICLE
Attach the engine chain hoist to the engine hangers.
Remove the through bolt, four bolts and LH mounting insulator.
Remove the three bolts and LH mounting bracket.
Remove the through bolt, two nuts and RH mounting insulator.
Lift the engine out of the vehicle slowly and carefully. NOTE: Be careful not to hit the PS gear housing.
Make sure the engine is clear of all wiring, hoses and cables.
Place the engine and transaxle assembly onto the stand.
[Updated on: Sun, 15 August 2004 08:53]
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I supported Toymods
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Re: How to RAISE your 3SGTE from an ST185 GT4
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Sun, 15 August 2004 09:00
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Yep, I'll agree with your statement, bringing the assembly out from under the car is easier!!!
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April 2003
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Re: How to RAISE your 3SGTE from an ST185 GT4
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Sun, 15 August 2004 11:17
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are you shitting me I don't think its possible to get the engine out the top, may be in a 185 but (I wouldn't have thought so) i know in a 165 that with the gearbox still on the engine, it is wider than the car (well from the points were the side mounts bolt to the frame) it cannot physically fit through there) and you can't get the gt4 box off while the engine is still in the car, so it has to be dropped underneath. but thats the 165, 205 and 185 may have a wider bay due to the wide body.
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Colac, Victoria
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May 2002
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Re: How to RAISE your 3SGTE from an ST185 GT4
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Sun, 15 August 2004 11:30
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yup - mine had to come out from underneath - no other way to get it out easier ..
shes up on a hoist atm ( next to a lamborghini ! ) with no front end or gearbox ...
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I supported Toymods
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Re: How to RAISE your 3SGTE from an ST185 GT4
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Mon, 16 August 2004 00:40
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underneath is definetly the way, thats the way i did it
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I Supported Toymods
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Re: How to RAISE your 3SGTE from an ST185 GT4
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Mon, 16 August 2004 01:28
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My approach was:
Remove engine loom from cabin and sit on the intercooler
Unbolt map sensor, idle up switch, coil & ignitor, resistor packs and sit them on the engine.
Remove airbox & assoc pipework
Undo radiator hoses & water to air IC hoses
Undo aircon pipework from compressor and unhook from the front crossmember.
Undo fuel line from top of regulator
remove lines from charcoal canister
undo the 2 or 3 earth straps
undo the steering column from the power steering rack
undo gear selector cables
undo clutch line
undo brake lines from struts
unbolt tailshaft
unbolt strut tops
unbolt crossmembers
lift the car using hoist
tada! you now have the whole shebang out of the car!
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Re: How to RAISE your 3SGTE from an ST185 GT4
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Mon, 16 August 2004 02:05
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It's not impossible to take the 162 engine out of the top with the gearbox, wouldn't the 165 be close to the same? If so then it's not that hard, that's the way I took my 3sge out and put the new one back in, first experience I'm sure it's easier to drop out though 
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I Supported Toymods
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Re: How to RAISE your 3SGTE from an ST185 GT4
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Mon, 16 August 2004 04:07
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I believe it is possible to raise out of both the 185 and 205... only a few mm of clearance either side and more of a hassle but it would be possible.
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I Supported Toymods
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Re: How to RAISE your 3SGTE from an ST185 GT4
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Sat, 12 March 2005 13:52
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I have never raised the engine out... not worth the hassle as far as I'm concerned.
I posted this up for those who didn't have a choice in the matter due to lack of equipment or whatever.
You are heaps more likely to damage something if you lift the engine instead of dropping it.
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Re: How to RAISE your 3SGTE from an ST185 GT4
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Sat, 12 March 2005 23:04
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step 1, grab yellow pages and find a good workshop
step 2, Deliver car with list of work needed
Step 3, Wait for said time frame, then start ringing every 2nd day for next two months trying to get car back
Step 4, hand over shit load of cash to get car back
Step 5, run in as per instuctions
Step 6, give it all it's got to see how it goes
Step 7, cry about dollars spent for nil result
Step 8, Flame said asshole on every forum you can
Step 9, read this very post as to how to remove engine
Step 10, get the boys around with a few beers to help with the backyard job
Step 11, finish off job after a week and read this post backwards to install engine
step 12, put "spare" (read leftover) nuts and bolts in glovebox just incase you workout where they go
Step 13, do burnout,heli or what ever you can to test and enjoy
Step 14, sometimes the most important post pics of hand with massive cuts,missing fingers,etc showing how you did the job at home cheaper than the first time you sent it out but don't mention the 6 months off work when you couldn't do anything or even drive
Step 15, tell your mate to get f@#ked when he tells you it's still the same.
Hope you all enjoyed this step by step guide, it can be applied to any car but you will have to find the right post from your car's engine removal 
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Re: How to RAISE your 3SGTE from an ST185 GT4
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Sun, 13 March 2005 01:26
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| toyrota wrote on Sun, 13 March 2005 10:04 |
step 1, grab yellow pages and find a good workshop
step 2, Deliver car with list of work needed
Step 3, Wait for said time frame, then start ringing every 2nd day for next two months trying to get car back
Step 4, hand over shit load of cash to get car back
Step 5, run in as per instuctions
Step 6, give it all it's got to see how it goes
Step 7, cry about dollars spent for nil result
Step 8, Flame said asshole on every forum you can
Step 9, read this very post as to how to remove engine
Step 10, get the boys around with a few beers to help with the backyard job
Step 11, finish off job after a week and read this post backwards to install engine
step 12, put "spare" (read leftover) nuts and bolts in glovebox just incase you workout where they go
Step 13, do burnout,heli or what ever you can to test and enjoy
Step 14, sometimes the most important post pics of hand with massive cuts,missing fingers,etc showing how you did the job at home cheaper than the first time you sent it out but don't mention the 6 months off work when you couldn't do anything or even drive
Step 15, tell your mate to get f@#ked when he tells you it's still the same.
Hope you all enjoyed this step by step guide, it can be applied to any car but you will have to find the right post from your car's engine removal
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haha so true.
PS All spare nuts and bolts must have come from the body of the front cut and are un-needed in this application... you can safely chuck these in your random bits pile so that you can use them if you ever lose a bolt while disassembling the engine next time. 
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