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| V8_MA61 wrote on Tue, 24 August 2004 15:19 |
I think you can get shaft mount rockers for them skip..but id have to check on that. Mine are roller rockers..those heads arent compatible with the rail rockers.
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you can mate, yella terra make them and they are found here...twin shaft too
http://www.yellaterra.com.au/roller.html
| V8_MA61 wrote on Tue, 24 August 2004 15:19 |
Hp flow figures? Dunno really, but i think the engine shop said around 620 or something 
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it can flow 620hp....what output figures are you hoping for ?...and when are you taking it to the track !!...love to see that in action, some wicked chassis twisting supra, lol
p.s. what colour is the actual car ?
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Tue, 24 August 2004 06:26
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Hey green ,Green is nice! And because you painted it green I am willing to forgive you for being such a cock holder 
I think your little windsor would look good in my corty bay
But I could never bring myself to fitting a V8 into it as I like my 250 to much
What trans are you running?
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Tue, 24 August 2004 09:02
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no idea what my hp output figure will be mate!
The actual car is silver/ blue... www.norbie.net/blake
Am using an r154 5 speed out of turbo supra.
Me a cockholder? Did you mean you want to come hold my cock or??
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Tue, 24 August 2004 09:35
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looks the goods, but the colour, hmm how should i say it?
AHHHH my eyes! my eyes!
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Tue, 24 August 2004 09:40
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| CrUZsida wrote on Tue, 24 August 2004 00:00 |
Oh, its GREEN
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Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm, lime green, mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm!
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Tue, 24 August 2004 10:33
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 hahahah i just remembered you LOVE your lime greens!
And you're a fellow ford bogan as well  must be some weird coindecence my friend!
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Tue, 24 August 2004 10:45
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| V8_MA61 wrote on Tue, 24 August 2004 20:33 |
hahahah i just remembered you LOVE your lime greens!
And you're a fellow ford bogan as well must be some weird coindecence my friend!
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well you know what they say about birds of a feather...
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Tue, 24 August 2004 12:25
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yes, yes i do...maybe one day 
so your 250 isnt even a bloody xflow???
I looked at going a 1gayz, but changed my mind..decided to be different 
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Tue, 24 August 2004 13:23
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x-flow ford 250 has intake on passenger side? - looks like a x-flow setup to me.
btw: blake, i don't think i'll ask you to choose the colour of my next car... lime green in a silver-blue engine bay? now that's ghay ..  
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Tue, 24 August 2004 13:35
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 please tell me you didnt mean that
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Tue, 24 August 2004 13:43
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mean what? the crossflow bit? or your choice of engine colour? or choosing colour of my next car?
seriously now: if/when you convert to EFI, will you get a manifold to suit port injection? or just replace the carbi with throttle-body injection (TBI)?
just curious... had been looking up how many MSefi folks had gone TBI, a lot talked about it on the forums, but the 'it runs' section (which isn't comprehensive anyway) didn't list that many.
cheers,
Charles.
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Tue, 24 August 2004 13:49
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undecided on the efi configuration. The f truck uses big ports, though the manifold is designed for torque due to its long runners, it doesnt make a lot of power. Edelbrock make a manifold to sit on top of it. Theres all types of ways to do it
Imagine 8 trumpets in an ma61 bay 
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Tue, 24 August 2004 14:27
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| improvedae86 wrote on Tue, 24 August 2004 11:30 |
16holes should be better than a small hole CT26 
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Ummmm i think blake has spent a couple more $ on his engine then my 7m i need to paint mine to make 600hp
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Tue, 24 August 2004 14:33
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haha, that engine looks great
looking forward to seeing it in the supra blake.....
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Tue, 24 August 2004 23:18
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| Norbie wrote on Tue, 24 August 2004 14:38 |
All you can see in those photos is a bare engine painted green? For all you know it could be a tidied up block he picked up from the wreckers!
(I'm not saying it is, you just seem to be easily impressed)
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f.f.s. norbie,
explain to me why i shouldn't be impressed??.... if blake can make a -ford- enigine look THAT good, he must be doing something right...
i knew about the project before i saw the pics... 
JB
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Tue, 24 August 2004 23:29
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Blake...nice work, mate. Love the note on Windsors as well
BTW, what was the ballpark on the heads?
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Wed, 25 August 2004 01:31
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| kyuik wrote on Wed, 25 August 2004 09:18 |
explain to me why i shouldn't be impressed??....
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You have every right to be impressed by a lump of cast iron painted an "interesting" colour. Don't let me stop you!
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Wed, 25 August 2004 01:58
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norbie ->
bright colours and shiny metal.. it is just a shame that it will be locked away under a hood....
hey blake... gonna have to get a perspex hood...
JB
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Wed, 25 August 2004 02:40
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nice one man, forget about the block but those heads look fucken sexual, the block looks good too but in contrast the heads are the schizzle dizzle!
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Wed, 25 August 2004 04:26
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| rick_o wrote on Wed, 25 August 2004 09:29 |
Blake...nice work, mate. Love the note on Windsors as well
BTW, what was the ballpark on the heads?
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too much..
seriously, if i did the conversion again i woudlve imported a mustang 1/2 cut or something very similar.
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Wed, 25 August 2004 04:27
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| V8_MA61 wrote on Wed, 25 August 2004 14:26 |
| rick_o wrote on Wed, 25 August 2004 09:29 |
Blake...nice work, mate. Love the note on Windsors as well
BTW, what was the ballpark on the heads?
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too much..
seriously, if i did the conversion again i woudlve imported a mustang 1/2 cut or something very similar.
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Btw: watch thread at about 11pm on thursday nite...the engine will be complete
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Wed, 25 August 2004 06:08
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Yes my engine is a crossflow its an old cast iron (yes people they make em out of IRON) head crossflow that has had heaps of work done
All that cast iron is good for keeping the front wheels on the ground
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Wed, 25 August 2004 09:10
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| V8_MA61 wrote on Wed, 25 August 2004 14:27 |
| V8_MA61 wrote on Wed, 25 August 2004 14:26 |
| rick_o wrote on Wed, 25 August 2004 09:29 |
Blake...nice work, mate. Love the note on Windsors as well
BTW, what was the ballpark on the heads?
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too much..
seriously, if i did the conversion again i woudlve imported a mustang 1/2 cut or something very similar.
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Btw: watch thread at about 11pm on thursday nite...the engine will be complete
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if there arent more pictures by 11pm tomorrow night i'm going to chuck a sad, find out where you live and set something on fire...posssibly myself
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Wed, 25 August 2004 09:22
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| Cyber-punk wrote on Wed, 25 August 2004 18:40 |
| V8_MA61 wrote on Wed, 25 August 2004 14:27 |
| V8_MA61 wrote on Wed, 25 August 2004 14:26 |
| rick_o wrote on Wed, 25 August 2004 09:29 |
Blake...nice work, mate. Love the note on Windsors as well
BTW, what was the ballpark on the heads?
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too much..
seriously, if i did the conversion again i woudlve imported a mustang 1/2 cut or something very similar.
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Btw: watch thread at about 11pm on thursday nite...the engine will be complete
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if there arent more pictures by 11pm tomorrow night i'm going to chuck a sad, find out where you live and set something on fire...posssibly myself
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Bit over the top dont you think?
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Wed, 25 August 2004 09:26
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hes obviously in love with my work 
*hugs* cyber-punk...i'll do my best
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Wed, 25 August 2004 09:30
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for sure
i've got a thing for old fords
and supras
i'm gonna have to see this green beast in person one day
need to buy some sunglasses first me thinks...or a welding mask
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Wed, 25 August 2004 09:31
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welding mask will be more appropriate
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Wed, 25 August 2004 10:09
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If you think having that retina burning colour on yer engine is bad
Try having a whole car painted in it
Its not good after a night on tha piss 
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Thu, 26 August 2004 12:35
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well ive promised, and im here to deliver:
take it away charles!
its not *complete* but its as close to complete as you can see before its installed in the car.
enjoy!
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Thu, 26 August 2004 12:38
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AND you beat your deadline of 11pm!!!! Can't wait for the pics!
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Thu, 26 August 2004 12:44
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thanks charles!!
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Thu, 26 August 2004 12:47
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looking bloody awesome Blake!
keep up the good work and I can't wait to see the finished project on the road.
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Thu, 26 August 2004 12:52
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Just a quick question...Dont bright colours make engines run hotter since they dont keep th heat in. Thats why most come as black??? Or is that just a mith?? If its not and the amount of work you have done its gonna run mighty hot.
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Thu, 26 August 2004 12:55
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| people100 wrote on Thu, 26 August 2004 22:52 |
Just a quick question...Dont bright colours make engines run hotter since they dont keep th heat in. Thats why most come as black??? Or is that just a mith?? If its not and the amount of work you have done its gonna run mighty hot.
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wtf? if anything a engine working in light, black would run hotter...shiny reflects heat, black absorbs it.
dunno where u heard this crap about shiny running hotter??
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Thu, 26 August 2004 13:11
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| V8_MA61 wrote on Thu, 26 August 2004 22:55 |
wtf? if anything a engine working in light, black would run hotter...shiny reflects heat, black absorbs it.
dunno where u heard this crap about shiny running hotter??
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once again, blake... think, perhaps read a little, then post... 
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Thu, 26 August 2004 13:20
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i really think engine colour has fuck all to do with engine operating temperature
if you were running the motor in summer out in the sun with no bonnet on, then black would run hotter.
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Thu, 26 August 2004 13:31
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really? would it?
i need a "blake digs a hole" smiley right now
in practical terms, i doubt the colour would have any significant impact on final runing temps, but i dare say ill side with the laws of thermodynamics none the less...
... if my engine were in danger of running hot, i'd be coating it in the thinnest layer of black i could find...
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Thu, 26 August 2004 13:41
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nope, it wouldnt mate...
heat goes downhill, not uphill. the sun will not 'heat' an object that is already hotter than what the suns radiant energy was capable of heating it to. however, on a hot day, the block will equibrilate with the environment at a higher temperature than on a cold day.
the colour of the object dictate the rate/magnitude at which the object will equibrilate its temp (in EITHER driection)... thus black objects will decrease their heat faster (when they are hotter than their environ) and will increase their temp faster (when they are colder than the environ).
as for my engine... yellow looked cool, and its is easy to pick up leaks...
next engine will be black 
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Thu, 26 August 2004 23:33
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| ed_ma61 wrote on Thu, 26 August 2004 23:11 |
next engine will be black
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Ed's right - black absorbs AND radiates more heat than lighter colours (as long as it doesn't have any funky pigmentation/resin that isulates the heat in the engine). This is why black roads continue to pump out the heat after the sun has gone done, they're releasing the energy they've absorbed during the day.
Why do you think radiators are black? (coated with a really thin layer of black paint)
But of course, if Ed was serious about using a coating to keep his engine cool, he'd use a flat/textured black coating to maximise the surface area of his engine and thus increase the amount of radiated heat. If Ed gets his coating right he may not need a radiator/cooling system at all - but the heat radiated from his engine will probably cause other issues unless the airlflow through the engine bay is high.
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How come you are using a dual plane manifold? Kinda defeats the purpose of having 600hp worth of flow in the heads? What are youre cam specs and is it hydraulic, solid or roller? I thought youd be definitely going for a single plane like an edelbrock torquer not perfomer chasing 400hp? Sorry for all the questions
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Fri, 27 August 2004 02:01
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ed is correct, 110%.
in first year physics we did some experiements on thermal conductivity, and proved conclusively that with identical objects, one painted black, the other white, the black object has a far higher thermal conductivity.
Look up thermal conductivty and then rethink what you have been thinking.
btw, engine looks nice for a pushrod, but that green is ghey
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| THE WITZL wrote on Fri, 27 August 2004 12:01 |
ed is correct, 110%.
in first year physics we did some experiements on thermal conductivity, and proved conclusively that with identical objects, one painted black, the other white, the black object has a far higher thermal conductivity.
Look up thermal conductivty and then rethink what you have been thinking.
btw, engine looks nice for a pushrod, but that green is ghey
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respect teh green bitch!
every other colour is just over-used or gay! as we all know im *different*
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Fri, 27 August 2004 02:06
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but still the question must be asked, how often is the bonnet going to be open to collect these sun rays?
I think the difference in colour would be 3/10th of fuck all personally.
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Fri, 27 August 2004 02:15
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It is in all probability 3/10th of fuck all. But this is toymods, so we like to argue the toss about these minor things forever and a day
Just remember Blake - in this house we OBEY the laws of thermodynamics! /end homer voice
For some reason I really like your car/idea Blake. It doesn't make a hell of a lot of sense.....but I like it!
Perhaps the feeling of being in seriously quick, 351 powered XW Falcon as it axle tramped its way towards being wound off the speedo affected my youthful mind many years ago. I loved my Supra, but there's still a special place in my heart for old technology, fuel guzzling, pushrod powered, carby fed V8s
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| V8_MA61 wrote on Fri, 27 August 2004 09:40 |
Single plane manifolds are crap for street use. Drag use only. And they are too high to fit under my bonnet.
Theres not *really* that much difference in it anyway, proper boss racing manifolds are dual plane - remember the mustang allan moffat had? That was a boss 302 with dual plane. Single plane are good for just hosing fuel into the chambers, not really good for my circuit and street use.
I also believe dual planes are better for hi-revving performance motors with a broad torque range.
my cam is a 600 degree lift flat tappet, so its very wild. it will start to get very angry at about 2800rpm.
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Dual plane manifolds promote higher air velocity meaning you will get more power downlow and therefore more torque but will run out of puff as the revs increase because of this. If that is an edelbrock performer it will be starting to seriously strangle above 5500 rpm, this is what my 308 behaved like anyway.
Single plane are for making power and revs. The question is whether or not the dual plane you have chosen will be sufficient for 400HP? I seriously believe that cam (what is the duration anyway?) and heads flowing 600hp are a serious missmatch for an Edelbrock Performer. Why make 400hp with an asthmatic manifold when you could probably make more with a good single plane with only small low end loss? If your cam starts to get angry at 2800 rpm, your edelbrock performer is aimed at a power band from 1500 - 5500 rpm. I think a torker 2 or victor jr may be a better choice for those heads and cam.
If fitting under your bonnet is a major priority perhaps you should use the biggest hydraulic cam you can get, the performer and some smaller port heads and have a much gruntier street motor?
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Yeah ok, I dont think youd get a much better dual plane manifold, yes the perfomer RPM is better but i wouldnt say there is alot different. It will be interesting to see how it goes!!!
On another note I know you said bonnet clearance is an issue, but putting a spacer between the carb and a dual plane manifold helps a bit with better distribution of air/fuel into the two planes. I ran a 2" on top of my performer and picked up 15 - 20hp. What carby are you using a what thickness aircleaner?
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Fri, 27 August 2004 08:08
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I've already thought about that. Hence im using a 1" edelbrock spacer.
the angle that the manifold holds for the carby is designed for better carby performance as well.
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Fri, 27 August 2004 08:42
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The angle that the manifolds on will be exactly the same as the STD windsor manifold as with all manifolds that will fit this engine
With the engine fitted you should be able to get a level and sit it on the carb mounting face and if you have done the conversion right the level should be dead straight
If you want a GOOD spacer dont use the edlebrock because all it is, is mass produced cheap shit with a name splashed on it use something good like a Cecere spacer
www.cecere.net.au
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June 2003
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Re: V8 MA61 PROGRESS UPDATE...THE GREEN MONSTER IS BUILT! MORE PICS!!
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Fri, 27 August 2004 09:07
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did you read my post?
i said the ANGLE ON THE MANIFOLD. the manifold sits flat, duh. The mount for the carby sits at an angle only.
Theres nothing at all wrong with the edelbrock spacer. Its just a spacer for christs sake.
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ACT
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August 2004
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Re: V8 MA61 PROGRESS UPDATE...THE GREEN MONSTER IS BUILT! MORE PICS!!
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Fri, 27 August 2004 09:17
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Blake you seem too be a little slow mate
The angle that you refer to is (like I said) the same as the STD manifold and this angle is meant to be level when the engine is fitted to the car
Are you understanding me?
Because I dont think I could make it any simpler
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I supported Toymods
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Adelaide
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July 2004
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Re: V8 MA61 PROGRESS UPDATE...THE GREEN MONSTER IS BUILT! MORE PICS!!
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Fri, 27 August 2004 09:18
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I know its prolly written somewhere but what carby are you using?
Holley?
Dominator?
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Brisbane
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June 2003
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Re: V8 MA61 PROGRESS UPDATE...THE GREEN MONSTER IS BUILT! MORE PICS!!
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Fri, 27 August 2004 09:20
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its a 750 holley.
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