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BlackSupra
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Replacing timing belt and starter motor on 83 Celica Tue, 08 October 2002 13:09 Go to next message
My mate has been told the entire engine has to be removed to change the timing belt and for both to be done its going to set him back $750, money he doesn't have.

Can it be done whilst the engine is still in the car?

Its the carby 2L engine, whatever that is?

Currently he has no car to drive!

Any help is appreciated ta.
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Re: Replacing timing belt and starter motor on 83 Celica Tue, 08 October 2002 13:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Well if its 83 with a timing belt, sounds like an SA63 celica. No, the engine doesn't have to be removed. No it shouldn't cost anything like $750! All he needs is a few tools, a Saturday arvo and someone with a few clues to give him a hand! Timing belt would probably cost ~$80, and probably ~$100 to get the starter rebuilt. That is unless the timing belt has snapped and buggered the engine, in which case he should be able to pick up another one at the wreckers for a few hundred.
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Re: Replacing timing belt and starter motor on 83 Celica Thu, 10 October 2002 00:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Any other opinions?
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Re: Replacing timing belt and starter motor on 83 Celica Thu, 10 October 2002 01:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
'83 would mean a 21R-C. They have timing chains.

Engine shouldn't have to come out.

From what I remember (don't take my word here, just going off very bad memory) you have to take these off:
Rocker cover
Crankshaft pulley (this will prolly be a bitch to get off)
Timing cover

That should open everything up. While you're at it, change the chain tensioner (just a bit of insurance).
If I remember correctly, parts were about $70 for chain and tensioner. This was years ago though...
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Re: Replacing timing belt and starter motor on 83 Celica Thu, 10 October 2002 08:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
If indeed it is a belt, it will be an SA63, they came out in '83. So either option...there is a writeup on how to do it on the R engines somewhere on the net, the SA63 should be easier though.
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Re: Replacing timing belt and starter motor on 83 Celica Thu, 10 October 2002 11:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
83 celica is a SA63

RA60 celica was 1980-82

in my experience timing chains is easier if you are real trick and link the old chain to the new one you can thread it through without taking apart most of the motor in the process, only prob with that is you cant see if your chain tensioners is stuffed so build them stronger the first time i say

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Re: Replacing timing belt and starter motor on 83 Celica Thu, 10 October 2002 11:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
There is always the fact that all Toyota engines with timing belts are non-interference, if you are a total newbie who manages to stuff installation up correctly, at least it just runs like shit instead of putting pistons through valves Smile
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Re: Replacing timing belt and starter motor on 83 Celica Fri, 11 October 2002 02:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
celicamad85 wrote on Thu, 10 October 2002 21:04

83 celica is a SA63

RA60 celica was 1980-82


My RA60 must be very confused then...

The compliance plate says May '83.
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Re: Replacing timing belt and starter motor on 83 Celica Fri, 11 October 2002 05:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
I think you'll find that the SA63 would've been started towards the end of '83 around October I think.
eg. My plate says ~July 84 and my friends RA65 says ~September 84. it's around those months anyway.

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Re: Replacing timing belt and starter motor on 83 Celica Sat, 12 October 2002 13:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Yeah, SA63 was late 1983 from memory.
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Re: Replacing timing belt and starter motor on 83 Celica Sat, 12 October 2002 13:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Is the 21rc with it's timing chain non-interferance too?

thanks.
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Re: Replacing timing belt and starter motor on 83 Celica Sat, 12 October 2002 13:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Nope, all the R-series from memory are interference style, get it wrong, put a piston through a valve Razz
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Re: Replacing timing belt and starter motor on 83 Celica Sat, 12 October 2002 14:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Nope, all the R-series from memory are interference style, get it wrong, put a piston through a valve Razz
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Re: Replacing timing belt and starter motor on 83 Celica Sat, 12 October 2002 14:01 Go to previous message
Nope, all the R-series from memory are interference style, get it wrong, put a piston through a valve Razz
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