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"bolt on" brake conversion options for FWD/4WD 5 x 100 stud pattern Mon, 11 October 2004 06:17 Go to previous message
Brake Upgrades for FWD/4WD with 5x100 stud pattern

http://img11.exs.cx/img11/5566/Image738.jpg

These started out as my original front brakes, & cause I’m more of a twisty road person, than straight line speed, I didn’t think they’d be adequate.
These are a single piston floating calliper.

http://img80.exs.cx/img80/7962/Image464.jpg
http://img32.exs.cx/img32/6715/Image584.jpg

First upgrade was to a set of ST185 Jap spec front callipers.

I didn’t need to change discs, which I’ve been told is the same for all Celicas upto ST20x models, Camrys, etc

http://img5.exs.cx/img5/549/Image754.jpg

The only mod needed was to grind away some of the brake backing plate to clear the calliper.
http://img11.exs.cx/img11/128/Image739.jpg

The brake lines bolts straight up with old fittings & hub-to-calliper bolts are identical.
Only problems is that you can’t buy these brake pads from Toyota, as the Aussie ST185 GT4 had a single piston calliper.
I took the old pads to a brake shop & they were able to match it.
Eg Bendix makes pads that suit.

After fitting these I found I had a brake balance problem (not helped that my rear struts were stuffed) caused by locking the rear drums. So I converted these to discs (there is another article on doing this)

Next step was to really get serious.


I managed to locate a set of ST205 discs & callipers off a half cut that wouldn’t fit the donor car. (The discs are TRD, not Toyota items and came pre-slotted)

As you can see they are much bigger than either of the other callipers I’d used.
http://img80.exs.cx/img80/3403/Image465.jpg
The brake pads are also larger.
http://img48.exs.cx/img48/5987/Image701.jpg
.... Single piston ........... Twin Piston ............... Four Piston
http://img2.exs.cx/img2/8650/Image752.jpg
.......... ST16x, ST18x ........................... ST205
http://img15.exs.cx/img15/9925/Image842.jpg
............ST205 ..................................ST16x, ST18x

There are a couple of traps I’ve discovered after getting these brakes which do not make them a straight bolt on.

These are all caused by the calliper mounting position.

The single & twin piston callipers are mounted on the wheel side of the hub, meaning the hub is simply drilled while the calliper is tapped.
http://img3.exs.cx/img3/162/Image1020.jpg

[Updated on: Mon, 11 October 2004 06:18]

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Read Message   "bolt on" brake conversion options for FWD/4WD 5 x 100 stud pattern  wagonistMon, 11 October 2004 06:17
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