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chutz_pah
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gearbox question (the vn is gone)	Thu, 24 February 2005 08:49

hey guys... i know this is the most wrong thing in the world to do to a celica... but.. i got a mate who i have encouraged to get a ta22 as well. however. he don't like manuals! so he will only get one that has an auto, one with more than the standard 2t in it... not as easy to come by as you think... so here is my question? i've heard that alot of commodore heads grab the 5speed manual celica gearbox (t50) and put it in etc... can the reverse be done? a commodore gearbox in a ta22 without much hassle? he has a vn commodore with an auto in it, will that fit? or is it another version of commodore? or is there a better option, some other car that an auto can come out of, which is still able to handle the power? how about a supra auto gearbox? everyone always grabs the manuals any help would be appreciated thanks jamie [Updated on: Fri, 25 February 2005 23:13] [Report message to a moderator]

THE WITZL
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Re: vn gearbox in a ta22 - will it fit?	Thu, 24 February 2005 09:07

short answer = no. [Report message to a moderator]

Norbie
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Re: vn gearbox in a ta22 - will it fit?	Thu, 24 February 2005 09:08

Long answer = OMGWTFBBQ!!!!1111oneone [Report message to a moderator]

Siktoy ra23
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Re: vn gearbox in a ta22 - will it fit?

Thu, 24 February 2005 09:12

Norbie wrote on Thu, 24 February 2005 20:08

Long answer = OMGWTFBBQ!!!!1111oneone

Yeah what he said

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EVOSTi
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Re: vn gearbox in a ta22 - will it fit?	Thu, 24 February 2005 09:19

bahaha omgwtfbbq! i think he needs to stick to the commodore or stop beeing a girl. [Report message to a moderator]

brett_celicacoupe
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Re: vn gearbox in a ta22 - will it fit?	Thu, 24 February 2005 10:50

i reckon that old VN auto gearbox would drain a few horsies 40rwhp TA22...sounds good [Report message to a moderator]

river
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Re: vn gearbox in a ta22 - will it fit?

Thu, 24 February 2005 11:15

Hi,

chutz_pah wrote on Thu, 24 February 2005 19:49

he don't like manuals! Shocked

He sounds like a bit of a splitarse. Better for him to stay with an auto Commie.

seeyuzz
river

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chutz_pah
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Re: vn gearbox in a ta22 - will it fit?	Thu, 24 February 2005 12:13

LOL... i expected as much, and i agree! but... it's what he wants, and i cant talk him out of it. i've tried. so then. my next question, dare i ask what auto will fit in it and handle the power? regardless of the obvious loss that will occur. [Report message to a moderator]

mrshin
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Re: vn gearbox in a ta22 - will it fit?	Thu, 24 February 2005 12:57

The reason Toyota gearboxes are used in Holdens etc. is because they're a cheap, common gearbox that was an improvement over the old school 3-speed manual offerings, and they had a removable bellhousing that allowed places like Dellows to cast up replacements, allowing them to fit such horrid engines as the Red motor. A Toyota 2T does NOT have the same bolt pattern as a buick... And the THM700 box doesn't have a removable bellhousing If he wants an auto TA22, then why not just buy an auto TA22? [Report message to a moderator]

chutz_pah
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Re: vn gearbox in a ta22 - will it fit?	Thu, 24 February 2005 21:11

he still wants the power that a 2tg or more has got... a 2t isn't enough. i understand the difficulty of what i'm asking, not the done thing by an stretch. more just wanting to know if it can be done, as it's what he wants etc.. thanks for the info though. i get the opportunity to tell him to suck it up and drive a manual [Report message to a moderator]

rob_RA40
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Re: vn gearbox in a ta22 - will it fit?	Thu, 24 February 2005 21:18

ok go grab his fat head and yell this into his ear. THE TA22 CAME WITH FACTORY AUTO TRANSMISSION!!!11oneoone [Report message to a moderator]

truenosedan
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Re: vn gearbox in a ta22 - will it fit?	Thu, 24 February 2005 23:26

^^^^^ [Report message to a moderator]

Allan
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Re: vn gearbox in a ta22 - will it fit?	Thu, 24 February 2005 23:44

unless its going to have a turbo on it leave the fucker manual! [Report message to a moderator]

Major Clod
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Re: vn gearbox in a ta22 - will it fit?	Fri, 25 February 2005 01:34

If he wants a 2TG, just bolt it up to a T series Auto... [Report message to a moderator]

EldarO
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Re: vn gearbox in a ta22 - will it fit?	Fri, 25 February 2005 02:42

the LT series ta22 came with 3 speed auto, 4 speed manual and 5 speed manual... the ST, rarer, came with 4 speed manual or 5 speed manual, and the uuber rare fooly schmick GT model came with only 5 speed manual, because its the best good luck in finding one though :/ [Report message to a moderator]

chutz_pah
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Re: vn gearbox in a ta22 - will it fit?	Fri, 25 February 2005 06:35

rob_RA40: ah, no shit... i know this, if you read the post properly you'll know that i and my mate, (one with the "fat head") are fully aware there is an auto for it, infact i got one. HOWEVER... it will not handle much powerwise. so there is no point using it. Major Clod: but i doubt it could handle the power a 2tg gives out, mine is stuffed and i only had a 2t on it. my main question at the moment is, will a supra auto box, bolt up. it had an engine with more power and a car with more weight and is not as old.. i belive that it would handle a 2tg with ease. so will it fit? who has one? [Report message to a moderator]

rob_RA40
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Re: vn gearbox in a ta22 - will it fit?	Fri, 25 February 2005 07:32

ahh after you explain it to me again i totally understand. i think u should go for it, commo box should go mad.... [Report message to a moderator]

Cool1
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Re: vn gearbox in a ta22 - will it fit?	Fri, 25 February 2005 07:57

What makes you think the TA22 factory auto wont handle the powar? With a decent kit though it it will be fine. Might cost you about $300 for new filter, bands and labour but all will be good. [Report message to a moderator]

Norbie
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Re: vn gearbox in a ta22 - will it fit?	Fri, 25 February 2005 08:58

As long as the 2T-G is atmo, it won't present any problems to a stock 2T auto in good condition. Even if the 2T-G is worked it won't have any more torque than a stock 2T. We're talking about a teeny-tiny 1.6L engine; shoving a big heavy power-sapping THM700 behind it makes about as much sense as... something that doesn't make any sense. [Report message to a moderator]

river
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Re: vn gearbox in a ta22 - will it fit?

Fri, 25 February 2005 09:47

Hi,

EldarO wrote on Fri, 25 February 2005 13:42

and the uuber rare fooly schmick GT model came with only 5 speed manual, because its the best Smile

....yeah, a Porsche-patented steel-case gearbox.. plus two-piece tailshaft and a 7.5inch F-series 2pinion LSD....

JDM GT's are the ducks nuts! Cool

But, getting back to your dilema, Cool1 & Norbie are right. A standard TA22 auto shouldn't have any issues behind a 2TG engine.

seeyuzz
river

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Nolan
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Re: vn gearbox in a ta22 - will it fit?

Fri, 25 February 2005 10:14

rob_RA40 wrote on Fri, 25 February 2005 18:32

ahh after you explain it to me again i totally understand.

i think u should go for it, commo box should go mad....

Rolling Eyes

bahahhah totally agreed Very Happy

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chutz_pah
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Re: vn gearbox in a ta22 - will it fit?	Fri, 25 February 2005 13:18

mrshin, Major Clod, EldarO, Cool1, Norbie, river: thanks for you info, i think i will advise that if he still wants an auto, to go with the original auto, and just get a kit put through it as cool1 had mentioned. probably the best idea, i just needed to know what other possibility's were available. thanks guys, much appreciated. Nolan: go waste someone else's time. [Report message to a moderator]

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Re: vn gearbox in a ta22 - will it fit?	Fri, 25 February 2005 20:30

2T with Commodore auto.....why didn't I think of that? Is your friend swedish? [Updated on: Fri, 25 February 2005 20:30] [Report message to a moderator]