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What other 3sge/3sgte cams would fit in a 3sge Gen 1!!
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Tue, 08 March 2005 11:54
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Hey everyone
I have a 3sge Gen 1 and i'm wondering what could be used as a upgrade from say a 3sgte or another model 3sge that would fit and would prove as an upgrade to my car!
And how likely are aftermarket cams for these engines..
Cheers
Adrian
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Re: What other 3sge/3sgte cams would fit in a 3sge Gen 1!!
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Tue, 08 March 2005 12:26
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to be honest, you've already got the best cams which came out on the 3s-g(t)e you wouldn't see much of an upgrade, and actually be downgrading.
You have larger duration and higher lift ocmpared to the turbo.
I was considering doing the opposite for my car, thats using the 3sge cams in the turbo. But really isn't worth the wank.
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Re: What other 3sge/3sgte cams would fit in a 3sge Gen 1!!
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Tue, 08 March 2005 12:34
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What are the chances of findin aftermarket 3sge gen 1 cams.. or maybe even aftermarket 3sgte cams that would be say 264 degree cams.. would that work?
Thanx!
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Re: What other 3sge/3sgte cams would fit in a 3sge Gen 1!!
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Tue, 08 March 2005 23:12
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Go get custom ones from Tighe Cams - I sent 'em an email, it's expensive, but if you are after performance and not wank factor then it's the way to go.
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Re: What other 3sge/3sgte cams would fit in a 3sge Gen 1!!
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Tue, 08 March 2005 23:16
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finding cams is easy, but the price is the limiting factor.
You could look into getting your cams reground.
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Re: What other 3sge/3sgte cams would fit in a 3sge Gen 1!!
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Wed, 09 March 2005 01:23
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Interesting...
But i'd much prefer if i could find some aftermarket cams...
I know ppl with the 4age motors and they got second hand cams..
No real need for custom if they are already out there really..
They last for ages i would have thought..
Thanx!
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Toymods Vice President
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Re: What other 3sge/3sgte cams would fit in a 3sge Gen 1!!
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Wed, 09 March 2005 04:28
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These guys http://www.atsracing.net/cams.htm have 264 degree Gen1 3SGTE cams for $400 US a pair.
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Re: What other 3sge/3sgte cams would fit in a 3sge Gen 1!!
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Wed, 09 March 2005 06:39
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Hey...
Crows Cams make custom units for $440 for the 4age and 3sge custom done...
Thanx for that though i appreciate it...
I'm hopin to find some second hand...
But yeah just mainly tryin to find out what 3sgte/3sge cams work with the 3sge gen 1 motors.
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Re: What other 3sge/3sgte cams would fit in a 3sge Gen 1!!
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Wed, 09 March 2005 11:06
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If you do an engine swap, and want to keep it in the same 3S series you only have a few options really.
There isn't a lot of point going to a Gen 2 or Gen 3 as the power gained is definately not going to be worth the money spent.
Better to go to a Gen 2 or Gen 3 3S-GTE, or if you want to stay N/A look at the BEAMs 3S-GE @ 200hp.
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Re: What other 3sge/3sgte cams would fit in a 3sge Gen 1!!
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Wed, 09 March 2005 12:50
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Looks to be he just wants to mod the Gen 1 3SGE he has, not swap it out for something else.
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Re: What other 3sge/3sgte cams would fit in a 3sge Gen 1!!
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Wed, 09 March 2005 13:15
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Most turbo engines have pretty tame cams because the exhaust back pressure is much greater than on your typical N/A engine. Cams from a gen 2 or gen 3 head (SW20/ST182/ST202) might be the way to go for better power, but I wouldn't be able to confirm this.
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Re: What other 3sge/3sgte cams would fit in a 3sge Gen 1!!
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Thu, 10 March 2005 01:05
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Cams from a gen 2 or gen 3 head (SW20/ST182/ST202) might be the way to go for better power, but I wouldn't be able to confirm this.
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Pretty sure Gen2/3 don't fit the Gen1.
You'd be better off buying a complete Gen2/3 or Beams
(whatever Gen that is)
Gen 1 is too old to buy off the shelf parts for.
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Re: What other 3sge/3sgte cams would fit in a 3sge Gen 1!!
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Thu, 10 March 2005 01:37
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well the cams themselves don't fit. But the heads do...
So if your after performance, sourch a head from a gen2, get it ported/polished and decked, and you'll get yourself a nive handful of horsies.
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July 2003
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Re: What other 3sge/3sgte cams would fit in a 3sge Gen 1!!
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Thu, 10 March 2005 05:29
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It's a pity swapping in something like a Beams VVTi 3sge is impractacle from a price point of view.
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Re: What other 3sge/3sgte cams would fit in a 3sge Gen 1!!
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Thu, 10 March 2005 05:39
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as the guy said gen 1 cams will only fit gen 1 as they have not much base circle and the buckets are only 28mm the gen 2 onwards have 4mm base circle and 31 mm buckets hope this helps
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Melbourne
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October 2003
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Re: What other 3sge/3sgte cams would fit in a 3sge Gen 1!!
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Thu, 10 March 2005 09:09
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Hey everyone.. thats great info i really appreciate it..
What are the chances of finding some aftermarket cams for a gen 1 second hand and anyone know any good sources for this??
Thanks again everyone!!!
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Re: What other 3sge/3sgte cams would fit in a 3sge Gen 1!!
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Thu, 10 March 2005 09:13
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Next to nil.
If anyone is gonna have anything close to Gen1 gear, it'd have to be TerryOBeirne.
Other then that, start looking, very hard.
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Re: What other 3sge/3sgte cams would fit in a 3sge Gen 1!!
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Thu, 10 March 2005 09:16
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Thanx for that...
Hmmm i'll have to keep an eye out for em anyway..
Pity 3sge gen 1 aren't as common as the 4age!!!
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