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Beej Regular Location: Adelaide Registered: April 2004	Speed Mag R stooooooopid Thu, 14 July 2005 05:58 ok so some of u know, others dont, i sent in a letter to speed mag a while back about a stupid un-educated comment they made... lets start at the begining shall we? Dear Speed, First of all, great mag, read it every month, love it, and its only getting better. Now, the reason I'm writing. I'd like to make a correction on a response to an email enquiry about car choice in issue 21 page 105. The comment is made "While the Suabru and Celica GT-FOUR have plenty of rally cred, their respective transmissions are made of glass, and when (rather than if,) they do go bang, can be extremely expensive to fix." I would like to reference a few sites for u, www.fensport.co.uk first of all which has a number of fast GT-Fours regularly drag raced, including a corolla running GT-Four gear with 650+bhp and a 10.66 ¼ mile, all on stock transmission gear. Secondly I would like to reference http://www.gtfour.ca/race.html , all fast GT-Fours with stock trannies. Last, but not least, I would like to point out that in my entire time being involved in the GT4/Celica community at www.toymods.org.au, www.alltrac.net, www.celicatech.net, www.ozcelica.com and www.GT4oc.net I have never once heard of a GT4 Box going "bang" despite relentless abuse (as mine itself does suffer). In conclusion I do however concede the point that the synchros are weak, and do seem to wear earlier than other similar vehicles, this however is another story entirely. Yours sincerely Beej then i read this months issue, found mine and Stu's letter. it would seem they are still stoooooooooopid this was their reply "some anomalies there Beej - 485KW-plus (650 plus horsepower) in a GT4 makes a 0-400 metre time much faster than 10.66 sec. Our bet is that with that much power on tap, a GT4 would make mush of the toyota cog-box. Synchro failure leads directly to gear failure, as in the case of the mysterious GTR thrid gear explosions which are without fail caused by the synchro disintergrating on a third gear shift." so theyre getting the following letter, as a reply to that reply Dear speed, Id like to reply to your reply in issue 22 page 115. "Our bet is that with that much power on tap, a GT4 would make mush of the toyota cog-box." Now the reason I cited references for u in my first letter was to prove the point. Your "bet" is of no interest to me considering I have cold hard "evidence" to the contrary. I'm afraid I didnt mention synchro "failure" which I do agree leads to gear failure, I did however refer to the WEAR of said items. I would be very happy if u could actually GO to www.fensport.co.uk, click on the link on ur lefthand side that states "Fensport Cars", and then read the specs on the corolla with GT4 running gear your telling me can't possibly do that without breaking its gearbox. Then follow its THREE YEAR HISTORY, during which the only gearbox change was for different ratios. I also hate to break it to you but a 1/4 mile time is subject to far more things than engine power and car.ie weight, reaction time, gear ratios, conditions, clutch powerband, traction and so forth. The only reason I pursue this is u are misinforming the public, which severely disheartens me for a mag as respected as urs, and because its giving ppl the wrong impression about a car I do love. Kind Regards, Beej let us see what ensues [Updated on: Thu, 14 July 2005 06:12] [Report message to a moderator]

	Subject	Poster	Date
	Speed Mag R stooooooopid	Beej	Thu, 14 July 2005 05:58
	Re: Speed Mag R stooooooopid	ke382TG	Thu, 14 July 2005 06:17
	Re: Speed Mag R stooooooopid	Merudo	Thu, 14 July 2005 06:19
	Re: Speed Mag R stooooooopid	WantaTurbo	Thu, 14 July 2005 07:06
	Re: Speed Mag R stooooooopid	79rollaboy	Thu, 14 July 2005 08:55
	Re: Speed Mag R stooooooopid	Classique71	Thu, 14 July 2005 09:16
	Re: Speed Mag R stooooooopid	thechuckster	Thu, 14 July 2005 09:31
	Re: Speed Mag R stooooooopid	Joshstix	Thu, 14 July 2005 09:33
	Re: Speed Mag R stooooooopid	Classique71	Thu, 14 July 2005 09:44
	Re: Speed Mag R stooooooopid	4agte	Thu, 14 July 2005 09:48
	Re: Speed Mag R stooooooopid	shinybluesteel	Thu, 14 July 2005 10:36
	Re: Speed Mag R stooooooopid	no_tofu_speed	Sat, 16 July 2005 13:44
	Re: Speed Mag R stooooooopid	peeack	Sat, 16 July 2005 14:23
	Re: Speed Mag R stooooooopid	tom210	Sun, 17 July 2005 07:04
	Re: Speed Mag R stooooooopid	berad	Sun, 17 July 2005 08:31
	Re: Speed Mag R stooooooopid	3S-GE_Man	Sun, 17 July 2005 13:46

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