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J-AE86
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sprinter prices	Sun, 07 August 2005 13:07

http://www.nissansilvia.com/forums/index.php?s=eaf 1f1908488d4246b0ad732db72180c&showtopic=106109 &st=30 "as i said b4...i have no problem ppl buying for track..as those ppl are usually looking for a low cost, low matienance track car...in which case ..if they were selling for 10k i dont they would of bought it... i meant a cruiser..as in cruising around at night,happy laping, showing off...whatever ppl call it QUOTE and dont be jealous that a 20 year old car is pulling as good pennies as many, newer others. well i dont think all ppl would think that when a 86 drives by..they could be thinking 'look at that rust bucket, with a carbon fibre bonnet and loud exhaust...its a 1980's economy car...is he some kind of cheapo ricer?' see ....different ppl have different views...i for one think their over priced and over rated " just some interesting posts i was reading i'd thought toymodders might like to have a read at each to their own [Updated on: Sun, 07 August 2005 13:15] [Report message to a moderator]

ae86drift
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Re: sprinter prices	Sun, 07 August 2005 13:25

god im sick of talking about this shit... [Report message to a moderator]

Youngy
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Re: sprinter prices	Sun, 07 August 2005 13:31

I have a sprinter in it's original wrapper! It will be worth as much as my original luke skywalker figure in it's original packaging soon!! [Report message to a moderator]

ae86drift
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Re: sprinter prices	Sun, 07 August 2005 14:01

ps silvia owners are ignorant about it. AE86 is a personal thing. like des and arch said, the attraction is the owning and modifying and especially the directness of the final product. [Report message to a moderator]

ShiRi
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Re: sprinter prices	Sun, 07 August 2005 14:31

I RULE THE INTERNET [Report message to a moderator]

Intensevil
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Re: sprinter prices

Sun, 07 August 2005 14:53

ShiRi wrote on Mon, 08 August 2005 00:31

I RULE THE INTERNET

I CHALLANGE THEE TO THY THRONE OF NET!!

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xolent
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Re: sprinter prices	Sun, 07 August 2005 15:23

Reason why I'm not into a 180sx is because there's no point owning one when I can't even drive a 20 year old rust bucket to it's ultimate. And I've seen MANY 180sx/200sx/Silvia/Skyline/Supra write-offs Well, there's more front cuts 180sx's then there is AE86's but all the AE86's are all in the junkyard because of their old age p.s: I think ae86 owners are as ignorant as silvia owners ae86 [Updated on: Sun, 07 August 2005 15:28] [Report message to a moderator]

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Re: sprinter prices	Sun, 07 August 2005 22:21

the price for a stock sprinter with loads of rust and a seized 4ac, should be around the $25000,hahaha mick [Report message to a moderator]

Julz01
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Re: sprinter prices	Sun, 07 August 2005 23:46

those silvia guys are stupid they all think that people are paying the price for a stock sprinter [Report message to a moderator]

SW20R
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Re: sprinter prices	Sun, 07 August 2005 23:54

qoute from redbook.com.au which is the online version of official car yard and re-sellers guide. 1985 TOYOTA SPRINTER AE86 Coupe 2dr Man 5sp 1.6 National average price - private sale* $1,200 - $2,700 Price when new (RRP) $14,758 Seems about right for a Corolla pitty no-one took care of them till initial d came out [Report message to a moderator]

Merudo
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Re: sprinter prices

Mon, 08 August 2005 00:12

ae86drift wrote on Sun, 07 August 2005 23:25

god im sick of talking about this shit...

Then don't talk about it.

Problem solved.

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Lench
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Re: sprinter prices

Mon, 08 August 2005 00:16

kingmick wrote on Mon, 08 August 2005 08:21

the price for a stock sprinter with loads of rust and a seized 4ac, should be around the $25000,hahaha
mick

location? pics? very interested! is this ready for dorifto? Laughing

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MR 1JZ
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Re: sprinter prices

Mon, 08 August 2005 00:29

xolent wrote on Mon, 08 August 2005 00:53

Reason why I'm not into a 180sx is because there's no point owning one when I can't even drive a 20 year old rust bucket to it's ultimate.

And I've seen MANY 180sx/200sx/Silvia/Skyline/Supra write-offs Confused

Well, there's more front cuts 180sx's then there is AE86's Rolling Eyes

but all the AE86's are all in the junkyard because of their old age Razz

p.s: I think ae86 owners are as ignorant as silvia owners Laughing

ae86

dude ive seen a few smashed 86's too...

the only reason you dont see front cuts of them, is that who wants to buy a 4AC cut? Laughing

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Merudo
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Re: sprinter prices	Mon, 08 August 2005 00:32

yeah but the JDM one is 4AGE yo... [Report message to a moderator]

SEXY 16
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Re: sprinter prices

Mon, 08 August 2005 01:16

SW20R wrote on Mon, 08 August 2005 09:54

qoute from redbook.com.au

which is the online version of official car yard and re-sellers guide.

1985 TOYOTA SPRINTER

AE86 Coupe 2dr Man 5sp 1.6

National average price - private sale* $1,200 - $2,700
Price when new (RRP) $14,758

Seems about right for a Corolla pitty no-one took care of them till initial d came out Razz

the red book is the biggest load of shite i have ever read

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Corona RT142
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Re: sprinter prices	Mon, 08 August 2005 01:18

yeah it says a corona can be worth as much as 4k hehe [Report message to a moderator]

Merudo
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Re: sprinter prices

Mon, 08 August 2005 01:27

SEXY 16 wrote on Mon, 08 August 2005 11:16

SW20R wrote on Mon, 08 August 2005 09:54

the red book is the biggest load of shite i have ever read

Why is it a load of shit?

It's the NATIONAL AVERAGE PRICE.

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Corona RT142
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Re: sprinter prices	Mon, 08 August 2005 01:30

Its the price the dodgy dealer wil try and sell you the car at. FFS when we bought our camry touring in 2003 (slighty used 2002 model) they were listed for like 33K we bought the car with 18K kms on it and manual for like 27K. [Report message to a moderator]

shcao
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Re: sprinter prices	Mon, 08 August 2005 01:34

on the contrary, it's the national declared price. Think about it... on the receipt (especially with old cars), ppl bump down the sale price on 'paper' so they pay less stamp duty at vicroads/rta/etc... [Report message to a moderator]

Callifo
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Re: sprinter prices	Mon, 08 August 2005 04:37

The redbook price is about right IF its a 100% stock 22 year old car. I mean I paid less than the minimum price for mine but considering how much Ive spent on it (which is true for any car) I never sell it for anything remotely close. That price does not include inports and/or modified versions of the car so of course your 4age red/blue/20v/ze fully fixed up is going to fetch MUCH more than you national average price. The unfortunate part of the price being listed so low is insurance companies dont like insuring much above that mark (for a decent price) even for the most well looked after one. On another note saw an initial D style levin (white/black, jap writing and all) on the back of a tow truck heading into a crash repairs today). Hope that wasnt another victim of ID. [Report message to a moderator]

ae86drift
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Re: sprinter prices

Mon, 08 August 2005 04:46

Callifo wrote on Mon, 08 August 2005 14:37

On another note saw an initial D style levin (white/black, jap writing and all) on the back of a tow truck heading into a crash repairs today). Hope that wasnt another victim of ID.

sad thing is, it probably was. Crying or Very Sad

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hachi-man
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Re: sprinter prices	Mon, 08 August 2005 04:55

is there really a need for one of these threads once a week? surley we could just make a thread where all the haters of 86 can go there and have a whinge and just keep it to a singular thread. [Report message to a moderator]

ke382TG
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Re: sprinter prices	Mon, 08 August 2005 04:57

I think the asking price for cashews and macadamia nuts is too high, the price of macadamias is expected to increase even further. Should we switch to purchasing walnuts and peanuts? My point is [Report message to a moderator]

hachi-man
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Re: sprinter prices	Mon, 08 August 2005 04:58

^your just an initial P wannabe [Updated on: Mon, 08 August 2005 04:59] [Report message to a moderator]

SEXY 16
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Re: sprinter prices

Mon, 08 August 2005 05:06

Merudo wrote on Mon, 08 August 2005 11:27

SEXY 16 wrote on Mon, 08 August 2005 11:16

SW20R wrote on Mon, 08 August 2005 09:54

the red book is the biggest load of shite i have ever read

Why is it a load of shit?

It's the NATIONAL AVERAGE PRICE.

its as accurate as a dog pissing in snow
example
95 vs exec 180kms 7 months rego clean car
my yard $3499
auction $1500/2000
insurance value $8000
red book $4000/5700
what the fcuk?

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79rollaboy
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Re: sprinter prices	Tue, 09 August 2005 02:37

When my 86 was written off, I told the assesor that theyre much more valuable now than a standard corolla... I asked him to consider the work I had done to mine and the money i'd put into it and try to determine the value based on sprinters with similar mods... ended up getting 4800 payout... but the wrecker said he wanted 1000 because theyre valuable... Still, 3800 is a fair bit more than red book value for an insurance payout... Look at Shelby Cobras... Do you see me going onto Shelby forums complaining about the price of them... NO! Just accept that this is what 86's are worth now... The more desperate people like you crave them, the higher up the price goes... [Report message to a moderator]

Corona RT142
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Re: sprinter prices	Tue, 09 August 2005 02:49

You can't compare a shelby to a sprinter, for starters one was actually built as a performance car and espcially in terms of the AC 427 had a shitload of go. But your point is extremely valid, in every era there are many cult cars and unlike some other cars they hold or appreciate in value over time. This could be because they make a good motorsport base, were in a movie or just a cool or different car for the times. And then there is your supply and demand argument simple economics. Lots of noobs/wanna drifters plus genuine entusiasts want to buy sprinters, but oh no not many sprinters around. Demand pull inflation, demand outstrips supply and hence the price will rise. Personally i think some are more overpriced the others but wtf do i care if someone a is stupid enough to pay that price then good. Second i appreciate the sprinter for what it is and like them but i'll probably never buy one so i couldn't really give a rats how much one sells for. But like every fad one day the bubble will burst and prices will drop maybe not down to the redbook prices but the ppl that paid premiums back in the day will lose out. Look at the GTHO and monaro's they sold for nutty prices in the late 80 dropped in the 90's but have risen again with the new introduction of respective models. Oh and the only thing i don't agree with shelby pricing is the replicas some of them are a massive rip, but also alot of work have gone into em so once again if someone is willing to pay good on em. /END RANT. [Updated on: Tue, 09 August 2005 02:49] [Report message to a moderator]

79rollaboy
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Re: sprinter prices	Tue, 09 August 2005 03:11

I was only giving an example... If a car is turning into a classic... Not that im saying the sprinter is a classic car... but the prices rise... and complaining about it does nothing... [Report message to a moderator]

SW20R
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Re: sprinter prices

Wed, 10 August 2005 00:09

SEXY 16 wrote on Mon, 08 August 2005 15:06

Merudo wrote on Mon, 08 August 2005 11:27

SEXY 16 wrote on Mon, 08 August 2005 11:16

SW20R wrote on Mon, 08 August 2005 09:54

the red book is the biggest load of shite i have ever read

Why is it a load of shit?

It's the NATIONAL AVERAGE PRICE.

its as accurate as a dog pissing in snow
example
95 vs exec 180kms 7 months rego clean car
my yard $3499
auction $1500/2000
insurance value $8000
red book $4000/5700
what the fcuk?

Prices are different. But these are based on national averages like said above.

Say if sprinters were more common and initial D was never EVER released driving down parramatta rd you'd probably see 2-4 sprinters in one day.

Toyota or sales people knew the car was great back then but predicted it to be an hot item today.

for a 22 yr old car that originaly cost 14k. that sounds fair for a stock australian ae86 with usual problems.

as with the prices in the excel. Insurance is worth aleast or upto 8k to compensate for the people who paid 20k back then. Redbook value means how much you can trade it in or dealer sell it for. If you were to sell it say at 5,500. you probably could there are some people who would pay that. But your price is your own and I dont want to be here telling you howto do your job. Im just saying thats how I see car prices when I'm shopping using the average sales printed material (like you would going for a homeloan or something)

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Re: sprinter prices	Wed, 10 August 2005 00:20

I dont no whats the big deal. No ones forcing you to buy a sprinter. There are cars that are cheaper and rwd. Mmmmm, 80 model 323 mazda with a 4agze and drift suspension. old school skylines, etc. [Report message to a moderator]

Intensevil
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Re: sprinter prices	Wed, 10 August 2005 02:38

I think that most of the demand for sprinters is superficial anyway. Sure people come on the internet and ask to buy them but when the REAL price of the car hits them they back off never to be seen again. This can be seen by how long it takes the moded sprinters that are over 6k to get sold, generaly they stay up for sale for a while and dont get snapped up instantly [Report message to a moderator]

Corona RT142
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Re: sprinter prices	Wed, 10 August 2005 02:47

not even the modded ones look at the "mint" trueno's that ppl have up for sale for like 13K they take a very long time to sell. [Report message to a moderator]

Lench
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Re: sprinter prices

Wed, 10 August 2005 02:50

bubbles wrote on Wed, 10 August 2005 10:20

old school skylines, etc.

exactly what im looking at now Smile

cant be stuffed messing around with overpriced shells full of rust with a siezed engine..
might as well go for a cheap shell full of rust with a siezed engine Laughing

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Re: sprinter prices	Wed, 10 August 2005 03:34

there are buyers who know the worth of a mint ae86 because of the age of the cars and the history of being thrashed most of the time then there are buyers who see the car on face value as a boxy old 80's hatch with some hot parts bolted on the real enthusiasts are willing to pay good money for something they know will be reliable and stay in good nic for years to come the buyers who wish to get something 'fast' or 'drift ready' wont pay the prices for the mint examples purely because their intent is to probably destroy it.. my 2c [Report message to a moderator]

Youngy
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Re: sprinter prices	Wed, 10 August 2005 04:58

The prices will all blow over soon and the Sprinter\AE86 will go the way of the Suzuki Swift. [Report message to a moderator]

79rollaboy
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Re: sprinter prices

Wed, 10 August 2005 05:26

SW20R wrote on Wed, 10 August 2005 10:09

SEXY 16 wrote on Mon, 08 August 2005 15:06

Merudo wrote on Mon, 08 August 2005 11:27

SEXY 16 wrote on Mon, 08 August 2005 11:16

SW20R wrote on Mon, 08 August 2005 09:54

the red book is the biggest load of shite i have ever read

Why is it a load of shit?

It's the NATIONAL AVERAGE PRICE.

its as accurate as a dog pissing in snow
example
95 vs exec 180kms 7 months rego clean car
my yard $3499
auction $1500/2000
insurance value $8000
red book $4000/5700
what the fcuk?

What happens to multi-quotes if they get really big???

Mmm..

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Re: sprinter prices

Thu, 11 August 2005 02:17

Youngy wrote on Wed, 10 August 2005 14:58

The prices will all blow over soon and the Sprinter\AE86 will go the way of the Suzuki Swift.

Sure, the prices will decrease, but unlike the swift, the 86 has a longstanding racing pedigree, and while they are still rust free enough, they will be wanted by those that love them Very Happy

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ae86drift
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Re: sprinter prices

Thu, 11 August 2005 03:09

cannonball wrote on Thu, 11 August 2005 12:17

Youngy wrote on Wed, 10 August 2005 14:58

The prices will all blow over soon and the Sprinter\AE86 will go the way of the Suzuki Swift.

Sure, the prices will decrease, but unlike the swift, the 86 has a longstanding racing pedigree, and while they are still rust free enough, they will be wanted by those that love them Very Happy

rofl..... nice one..

well in 10 years when the 'AE86 craze dies off' you can all still come to my place to see the mint trueno and levin ill have in the garage Very Happy

one with a 20v and one with a 16v

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Re: sprinter prices	Thu, 11 August 2005 03:17

Once a year all devout 86ers will travel on a pilgrimage to the Hachi Roku Mecca that is AE86drifts garage [Report message to a moderator]

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Re: sprinter prices

Thu, 11 August 2005 03:58

cannonball wrote on Thu, 11 August 2005 13:17

Once a year all devout 86ers will travel on a pilgrimage to the Hachi Roku Mecca that is AE86drifts garage Very Happy

rofl....

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Re: sprinter prices	Thu, 11 August 2005 04:28

People who say prices are jacked up too much aren't looking hard enough! Myself and 2 friends have all bought great AE86s in the past 3 months for great prices 1 x straight stocker clean in/out runs perfectly! 6months reg $1200 1 x stocker fresh new paint not running 6months reg supplied with all 4AGE conversion $3000 1 x stocker faded paint straight car little rust with 4 months reg $2000 who says bargains arent still yet to be had [Updated on: Thu, 11 August 2005 04:29] [Report message to a moderator]

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Re: sprinter prices

Thu, 11 August 2005 13:37

Youngy wrote on Sun, 07 August 2005 23:31

I have a sprinter in it's original wrapper! It will be worth as much as my original luke skywalker figure in it's original packaging soon!!

i got one too its still wrapped in its original box.. still in mint condition... has panda paint job, deep dish watanabe rims, all jdm features, Japanese Domestic Market..
recently bought from Kmart... unwanted gift.. asking $14000 ono Laughing

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