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Location: Sweden
Registered: May 2003
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RWD 3S-FE
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Tue, 12 April 2005 19:43
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There's a lot of RWD 3S-GE out here and the problem seams to be the pickup/pan and the oil evacuation from the head (when it is in straight position). Have the FE-head the same problem with the oil?
Have anyone built a RWD 3S-FE?
I'm planning to change my 3Y-C to a 3S-FE (YR21 automatic).
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Location: Canberra
Registered: October 2002
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Re: RWD 3S-FE
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Wed, 13 April 2005 01:43
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The 3SFE was a useless engine anyway.
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Registered: April 2005
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Location: Sydney
Registered: September 2003
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Location: campbelltown
Registered: November 2002
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Location: Canberra
Registered: August 2002
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Location: Melbourne
Registered: March 2004
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Re: RWD 3S-FE
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Fri, 15 April 2005 22:17
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The FE motor was designed for better response down low in the rev range. I notice this a lot when I drive our Rav4 (3S-FE) compared to the Celica. The FE definetly has more torque down the bottom but doesn't pull much (if at all) above 4000rpm whereas this is where the 3S-GE is just getting up to boogie. Also found that you need to push the 3S-GE harder just to keep up with traffic due to the lack of power down low (comparatively).
The wiring for an FE is a little less complicated than the GE, but I think if you did this conversion you would be disappointed with the end result seeing as with a little more effort you could have a bit more of a 'racey' engine.
My 2c.
- Andy
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Location: Sydney
Registered: May 2004
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Re: RWD 3S-FE
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Sat, 16 April 2005 03:08
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smt_007 wrote on Wed, 13 April 2005 13:37 | The 3SFE is not so useless, get a sv21 camry-3sfe and a st162-3sge celica, install full exhaust system with extractors throw them on the dyno, and you are getting only 3kw@wheels less from a 3sfe, on the road 3 kw@wheels is not a world of difference.
...and [absolute] just watch the language mate, that could get you kicked off the forums.
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correct me if i'm wrong but
3sge gen 1 = 103kw
3sfe = 86kw
I think the difference would be a bit more than 3kw at the treds.
then the gen 2 3sge have more powah again. If you were doing an engine conversion i'd doubt you'd bother with a gen 1.
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Location: Adelaide
Registered: April 2003
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Re: RWD 3S-FE
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Sat, 16 April 2005 07:37
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rob-ae86 wrote on Wed, 13 April 2005 14:21 | i THINK they came in the toyota spacia mini van RWD too
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Yeh it did... not sure if it was a spacia or townace... but I just remember working on a RWD 3s-fe toyota van once before...
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Location: Sydney
Registered: September 2003
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Re: RWD 3S-FE
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Sat, 16 April 2005 09:20
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Celica_John wrote on Sat, 16 April 2005 13:08 |
correct me if i'm wrong but
3sge gen 1 = 103kw
3sfe = 86kw
I think the difference would be a bit more than 3kw at the treds.
then the gen 2 3sge have more powah again. If you were doing an engine conversion i'd doubt you'd bother with a gen 1.
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3sfe=88kw
3sge=103kw
Yes i know those figures thats why im amazed that the 3sfe has only 3kw less at the wheels, i have seen dyno sheets for both, the standard camry exhaust is extremely restrictive.
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Location: Sydney
Registered: May 2004
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Re: RWD 3S-FE
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Sat, 16 April 2005 09:47
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I suppose a lot comes into it tho. Like the age of the engine, if it were different dynos etc.
But the restictive exhaust might be the cause of the torque down low that smashed_wombat was talking about.
I was supprised when I found out that my st162 had 2inch exhaust stock.
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Location: Sydney
Registered: November 2003
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Re: RWD 3S-FE
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Sun, 17 April 2005 00:10
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the camry has the same i was almost in shock when i looked under my old car and saw how big it was!
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Location: Sweden
Registered: May 2003
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Re: RWD 3S-FE
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Sun, 17 April 2005 20:03
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I already have a 3S-FE, and everything is better than a noisy and carbed 3Y .
I need a engine that is economical to use and i don't lika that i have to rev the engine so much.
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Registered: October 2003
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Re: RWD 3S-FE
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Mon, 18 April 2005 05:33
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you can convert the 3sfe to rwd. I know of two such cars running this configuration.
I am about to do the same conversion.
I am using a gemini desiel 5 speed mated to the fe block with a 2s starter motor turning it over. The only thing i need to do is look at a flywheel for the conversion as i would like to keep my gemini clutch setup.
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Location: Canberra
Registered: October 2002
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Re: RWD 3S-FE
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Mon, 18 April 2005 06:56
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alwaysRA23 wrote on Sat, 16 April 2005 07:26 |
benmeyer wrote on Wed, 13 April 2005 11:43 | The 3SFE was a useless engine anyway.
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you're a usless, but you dont see anyone else giving you negative feedback...
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Thankyou for clarifying that I am "a useless".
If you can't handle negative comments in an open forum, perhaps you should be posting your rosy ideas elsewhere. Meanwhile, I will again state my opinion that the 3SFE is a boat anchor.
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Location: Canberra
Registered: August 2002
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Re: RWD 3S-FE
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Mon, 18 April 2005 07:09
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note
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[Updated on: Sat, 16 April 2005 18:22] by Moderator...
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and maybe since this guy has picked up an engine that is better quality than his 3Y which is indeed more likely to be a usefull boat anchore. than you should not piss on his parade, and stick to your " how do i take my tint off " threads....
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Location: Canberra
Registered: October 2002
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Re: RWD 3S-FE
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Mon, 18 April 2005 07:15
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I feel so much more secure to know that you are monitoring my every move on this forum. Get over it mate.
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Location: Sweden
Registered: May 2003
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Re: RWD 3S-FE
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Mon, 25 April 2005 22:29
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F|sh wrote on Mon, 18 April 2005 07:33 | you can convert the 3sfe to rwd. I know of two such cars running this configuration.
I am about to do the same conversion.
I am using a gemini desiel 5 speed mated to the fe block with a 2s starter motor turning it over. The only thing i need to do is look at a flywheel for the conversion as i would like to keep my gemini clutch setup.
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Thanks!
I will have a auto tranny so i have to fit the driveplate to the crank in some way.The 3Y is still in the van so i can't see how good it will mate(probably no good )
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Registered: October 2003
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Re: RWD 3S-FE
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Wed, 27 April 2005 07:10
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MY 3SFE still has the drive plate on it...
you like PM me
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Location: Sweden
Registered: May 2003
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Re: RWD 3S-FE
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Mon, 08 August 2005 21:17
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So,here I am again.
The 3Y flywheel is 295mm and 115 teeth and so are the 5M flywheel, are there any more flywheels with the same size(maybe same boltpattern to the crank?).
I know i can use a driveplate from a 3S-FE but then it will be problem with the starter.
Here's pics:
http://tcs.teamymse.net/bildgalleri/index.php?cat= 10036
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Location: Sweden
Registered: May 2003
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Re: RWD 3S-FE
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Mon, 08 August 2005 21:20
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One more thing. Some of the 3S crank have 6 bolts and others 8, with one have 6 bolt?(I have never seen that).
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Registered: October 2003
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Re: RWD 3S-FE
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Fri, 12 August 2005 14:53
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the toyota camry blocks have a 6 bolt flywheel my block is a sv-21 auto
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Location: Sweden
Registered: May 2003
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Location: brisbane
Registered: December 2004
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