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Location: Sydney
Registered: January 2005
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Fri, 23 September 2005 01:46

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kewl thanks man, will do.
thanks for the info sofar.
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Location: Sydney
Registered: January 2005
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Fri, 23 September 2005 01:46

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HAHA, i busted open a new page too. bonus
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Location: brisbane
Registered: December 2004
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Fri, 23 September 2005 06:46

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put a 3sgte as the replacement open up a whole new can of worms
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Location: Melbourne
Registered: March 2004
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Fri, 23 September 2005 13:01

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i dont know if i'd go to the effort with an ST, for practically the same price you could get an SX with the nicer interior and power everything? Not really a consideration if you just want to go fast i guess...
vid of me wringing the car's neck:
http://members.optushome.com.au/an-d/web/0-100.3gp
0 to 100 in about 8 seconds, soft launch (to preserve dying CV's).
Car is running crap lately, could barely break 17 seconds quarter mile on the g-tech yesterday. Usually gets under 16 easy~
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Location: Sydney
Registered: January 2005
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Fri, 23 September 2005 13:32

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reason i wanna do the st is cause i got a mate who's got a mate, wif an ST wif custom paint and full kit wif a blown motor, and hes got till tomorrow to sell it. b4 the towing company decides its theirs and keeps it for them selves...
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Location: Melbourne
Registered: October 2003
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Fri, 23 September 2005 14:11

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My Wheels are still for sale, Haven't had much luck selling em at the moment,
Why do u think these aren't selling? I'm askin a very decent price and they look HORN on the celica!
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Location: Melbourne
Registered: March 2004
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Fri, 23 September 2005 14:38

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I dont know why you're selling them man, they still look good with the kit and everything...
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Location: Melbourne
Registered: March 2004
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Fri, 23 September 2005 14:42

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If you dont mind not having the extra creature comforts then i'd probably go for the ST. If you're planning to fix it up and sell it it'd be a win - 3SFE's are dirt cheap!
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Location: Sydney
Registered: January 2005
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Fri, 23 September 2005 15:23

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yeh thats wat im thinking, but a 3sge, would be fun, and a 3sgte would be convincing enough to get me to keep it.
but my hearts set on a ra23, ta23... badly. and a ae92 as a daily
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Location: Melbourne
Registered: October 2003
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Fri, 23 September 2005 23:54

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smashed_wombat wrote on Sat, 24 September 2005 00:38 | I dont know why you're selling them man, they still look good with the kit and everything...
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Yeah i was thinkin that at first, but those 16" ZR's look hot as,
hard decision to sell them if i do!
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Location: tas
Registered: June 2002
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Sat, 24 September 2005 06:41

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I have a question about 3s gearboxs.
I'm trying to get a caldina beams halfcut from japan to convert my friends st162 to a beams.
I have already put one of these beams engines into an aw11 mr2 and that whent pretty smooth. As far as i can tell all the same applies to putting this into a st162 celica, except for the gearbox where the gear selector levers are on the other side of the box. (mr2 box)
So what i'm asking is if there is a suitable LSD gearbox that will go onto a fwd 3s engine and work with the existing celica st162 gear selector cables. Would something like the gearbox off a celica st202 be compatible? or anything else?
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Location: Melb, Victoria
Registered: April 2004
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Sat, 24 September 2005 08:12

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ST's also have drums on the back which sucks..And with the 3sgte in there.
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Location: Sydney
Registered: January 2005
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Sat, 24 September 2005 08:37

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im thinking, do the 3sgte conversion, but buy the half cut.
that way i got the brake boster, and all that lil shit i need. and ill have the g/b too. which will prolly be better than wats in their now.
but i havent heard from the guy, thinkin he fell through.
hasnt answered calls or msgs so wat can ya do?
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Location: Melbourne
Registered: March 2004
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Location: tas
Registered: June 2002
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Sat, 24 September 2005 10:37

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thanx smashed wombat. Sounds as if the only real option is a gt4 box, this can't be right.
What gearbox do you have on your gen3? is this an lsd gearbox that comes standard on st202 celica's (na gen3 motors)
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Location: tas
Registered: June 2002
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Sat, 24 September 2005 10:51

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AH! ok looks like the box that comes with the st202 is the box i would need.
Infact looks like a caldina halfcut isn't the one to go for but a beams equipped st202. Altho they must be alot rarer and also more expensive then a caldina beams cut.
Did you sort out what Gearbox too use on your gen3 st162 conversion wombat?
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Location: brisbane
Registered: December 2004
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Sun, 25 September 2005 08:36

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a celica or camry box should hold the beams power i know they have a fair amount of power but its n/a power know what i mean haha... the gt4 box isnt impossible , modify the x member and get a plate made up etc... track down a new camry 5sp box bulletproof and wack a aftermarket lsd in it
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Location: Melbourne
Registered: March 2004
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Sun, 25 September 2005 10:05

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I'm running a ST202 S54 gearbox.
Although the S54 gearboxes found in Celicas are externally identical to those found in the camry, the boxes that are fitted to 3SGE engines have a lower final drive ratio for faster acceleration. A camry gearbox behind a 3SGE would be p00. They're fine for turboed cars as the extra power down low offsets the disadvantage of a high final drive ratio.
ST202's (all types - beams AND gen 3) come with two types of gearbox AFAIK.
S54: Non LSD
- E(1)53: 80% sure has LSD when found in a ST202 = same as those found in 4AGE blacktop, 4AGZE and some MR-2 halfcuts. Bigger, tougher gearbox - but not a direct bolt-in into a ST162 as the mounts, shift cable retainer, input and output splines are bigger (requiring a mix and match driveshaft setup).
Hope this helps. It probably doesn't make much sense - :S
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Location: brisbane
Registered: December 2004
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Sun, 25 September 2005 11:30

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i dont know ey yer mines turbod but i dont go any faster in low gears just get there quicker obviously but 5th is longer which i like but yer i dont know wat the ratios are so ur probly right
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Location: Geelong.Vic.AU
Registered: September 2003
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Sun, 25 September 2005 13:12

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On the topic of gearboxes,
I have to change my gearbox & cluch soon, I have a fair idea on what has to happen, and I have a haynes, but yeah...:
Hoise engine, remove driveshafts, crossmember, remove gearbox, change cluch, then reverse...
Just trying to get the heads up on any potental problems I might have, or any other suggestions on things I should do with the gearbox out?
CHeers fellas
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Location: Sydney / NSW
Registered: March 2004
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Mon, 26 September 2005 01:33

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doobs, get the flywheel machined if it has grooves in it, and while you have the flywheel off, it would be a good idea to check the oil seal and replace that if it needs it as well.
Karl
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Location: Melbourne
Registered: October 2003
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Mon, 26 September 2005 02:50

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I can't believe no st162 owner would want my wheels haha. I've been tryin for a while now, they are reduced to $460 now which is an absolute bargin....
These Super ITC are pretty wicked, been muckin around with it for over 2 weeks and they have really helped the car pickup, feels like the powerchip again hehe!!
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Location: Geelong.Vic.AU
Registered: September 2003
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Mon, 26 September 2005 04:01

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Ey Adrian,
"3sge Gen 1 Ignition leads (ENGINE ELECTRIC SECTION)" They are mine not for sale 
Thanx for the suggestion warrior, will definietly get it done.
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Location: Melbourne
Registered: October 2003
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Mon, 26 September 2005 06:11

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doobs wrote on Mon, 26 September 2005 14:01 | Ey Adrian,
"3sge Gen 1 Ignition leads (ENGINE ELECTRIC SECTION)" They are mine not for sale 
Thanx for the suggestion warrior, will definietly get it done.
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HAHHAHA sorry dude fixed it up now...
The wheels are still available though hahaha
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Location: Sydney / NSW
Registered: March 2004
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Mon, 26 September 2005 11:57

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well the engine is in, i have some new 17's and i threw on a X-force cannon. heres some pics.



here is a st165 fan i had, cause i cant fit the standard fan in the engine bay.
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Location: Melbourne
Registered: March 2004
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Mon, 26 September 2005 13:32

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looks hawt man! Those rims are porn too! Looks like another karl-classic in the making!
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Registered: June 2003
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Tue, 27 September 2005 12:12

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drainer of a day today drove around looking for wheels (yes again).
Not only did I find some that I liked but they were the right size and everything. Down side is that apparently they won't import a set of four they only import orders of 100+ wheels. Does anyone else think that's strange?
So I kept looking, found some more and were told they wouldn't import just for one person again.
How exactly do people do business if they don't stock rims taht fit wrx's? I suppose wrx's are already 16x7 wheels.... Maybe I'm going to have to get 17's.
I guess I'm just annoyed because I don't understand how they can offer wheels and then allow the distributors to determine whether or not they get sold.
If anyone knows somewhere in victoria that will import/find wheels that have been requested please tell me.
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Location: Gunnedah NSW
Registered: July 2004
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Tue, 27 September 2005 23:17

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I was just wondering what size rims are the best fit under a celica. Also is the rumor true that wrx mags fit celicas? By the way here is a pic of my car. It is an 1986 Celica SX with custom made extractors, walker hot dog, Genie turbo muffler and stainless piping.
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Location: Perth
Registered: October 2004
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Location: brisbane
Registered: December 2004
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Wed, 28 September 2005 06:16

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17s are for traction .... 18's are for show 18s on a celica looks tops... 17s fill the guards nicely
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Location: Newcastle
Registered: June 2004
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Wed, 28 September 2005 06:38

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Wow, that is one awesome looking car in that pic buck naked!
I reckon 17" are a little on the big side, especially if you wanna lower it a bit.
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Location: brisbane
Registered: December 2004
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Wed, 28 September 2005 06:38

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so boys and gurls the next stage of shitbox celica is upon us lol
the list
gt30r garrett ball bearing turbo
stainless manifold
external gate
electronic boost controller
new dump pipe
oil cooler
remote oil filter
dual feed fuel rail
sard fpr
another walbro inline pump
264 hks cams (cam regrind)
new timing belt
new water pump
new rollers
metal headgasket
arp headbolts
185 radiator
wideband controllable o2 sensor with controller
coil packs
ignitor (changing it from dizzy to wasted spark aka 4 coil packs and using the dizzy as a crank angle sensor)
new leads
custom radiator lines (stainless the one that comes straight out the engien will be redone that hold the sensors)
braided fuel , clutch , brake lines
185 brakes finally 
custom 1 piece drivers driveshaft
should be fun hope to have it running within 1 and a bit months hope to push the lil 3sgte to over 300fwhp...
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Location: brisbane
Registered: December 2004
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Wed, 28 September 2005 06:41

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i saw a celica on lows with 18s' ill be puttin 17s on mine with superlows
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Registered: June 2003
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Wed, 28 September 2005 07:00

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So, here's the enkei's that I wish to import but apprently they only import them in orders of 100......... still seems like a load of crap, or poor business but anyway.
They are proportionate and that's how it should look with king lows and 17's... btw these wheels only weigh around 7kg's for 17" size... And yes the car looks pink... I couldn't get it to go darker in photoshop
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Location: Melbourne
Registered: April 2005
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Wed, 28 September 2005 07:09

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What size are your rolling stock TRD-ST162??
Thay really do look sweet on yours, don't know why you're selling them.
18's would be nice, they really would fill the guards.
Anyone heard of larger on 162's???
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Location: Sydney / NSW
Registered: March 2004
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Wed, 28 September 2005 07:09

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charliechalk wrote on Wed, 28 September 2005 17:00 |

So, here's the enkei's that I wish to import but apprently they only import them in orders of 100......... still seems like a load of crap, or poor business but anyway.
They are proportionate and that's how it should look with king lows and 17's... btw these wheels only weigh around 7kg's for 17" size... And yes the car looks pink... I couldn't get it to go darker in photoshop
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Charlie, i dont know why you are importing them, there is a set of them for sale on these forum's. here is the link
http://forums.toymods.org.au/index.php?t=msg&t h=81380&rid=5064&S=61b867eae512e87769c06e8 21ec1b5c7
Karl
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Registered: June 2003
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Wed, 28 September 2005 07:13

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OMG! lol... ok then well yeah I didn't know that.. I check the for sales regularly... must have been new, but they do look better gold
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Location: Sydney / NSW
Registered: March 2004
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Wed, 28 September 2005 07:25

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charliechalk wrote on Wed, 28 September 2005 17:13 | OMG! lol... ok then well yeah I didn't know that.. I check the for sales regularly... must have been new, but they do look better gold
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is your car red? or u just photochopped it that colour?
i think the silver is awesome, and at least u wont have to wait for them, seeing they are in your state as well 
go for it charliechalk
Karl
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Registered: June 2003
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Wed, 28 September 2005 07:47

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hehe pm'ed the guy.. which is good.. and yes my car is red.. the one in the photo wasn't that's why it looks funny that one was some kinda light blue/green... yuck
Here's hoping he still has them though... they were for sale on the 19th...
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Location: Gunnedah NSW
Registered: July 2004
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Wed, 28 September 2005 10:07

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hey i was wondering how hard is it to fit a 3sge gen 2 motor and is it really worth it compared to a 3sgte considering the fact i have my p's.
Also do you have any articles on fitting this engine.
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Location: Gunnedah NSW
Registered: July 2004
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Wed, 28 September 2005 10:24

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hey what kind of mods performance wise, and show wise and where do you get the products to suit 162's and a rough price as i'm having a tough time trying to decid whether to swap engines or modify mine
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Location: Melbourne
Registered: October 2003
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Wed, 28 September 2005 11:53

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Here is a Pic of my car as of today..

The car is gettin a respray in about 3 weeks so i thought "why not have some fun and see what looks good."
Personally i like it, Its a bit "MATT" but yeah if i decide to keep it when i do the respray it will be in proper "gloss black"
The rims were a bit too hard to keep clean so they are now black, more of a racy look!!!
New Name for my car "RED PANDA 162"
And if anyone asks, YES there is Red Pandas,
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Location: Bulleen, Melbourne
Registered: June 2002
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Wed, 28 September 2005 11:56

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charliechalk wrote on Wed, 28 September 2005 17:00 |

So, here's the enkei's that I wish to import but apprently they only import them in orders of 100......... still seems like a load of crap, or poor business but anyway.
They are proportionate and that's how it should look with king lows and 17's... btw these wheels only weigh around 7kg's for 17" size... And yes the car looks pink... I couldn't get it to go darker in photoshop
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Charlie: Those wheels are available locally, the Australian distributor is YHI. Any decent wheel shop should be able to get them for you. Try somewhere like Donellan's in Box Hill, or The Tyre Factory (as much as I don't recommend them )
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Registered: June 2003
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Wed, 28 September 2005 13:04

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Thanks tooch 
TRD.. hehe that actually looks alright if you went racing like that no one would even notice But it does remind me of something I saw on my wanders. I dont' know why. I saw a dukes of hazard remake... same car same wheels... looked great.. even had the number but for some reason it was matt black instead of read still looked, well... dukes of hazard hehe..
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Location: Sydney / NSW
Registered: March 2004
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Wed, 28 September 2005 13:25

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Adrian, u have wrecked it, put it back the way it was 
before

after

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Location: Melbourne
Registered: March 2004
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Wed, 28 September 2005 14:22

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Location: Bulleen, Melbourne
Registered: June 2002
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Thu, 29 September 2005 06:26

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LOL!!!!
That is fucking brilliant
Sorry Adrian, had to laugh!!!
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Location: brisbane
Registered: December 2004
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Sat, 01 October 2005 05:22

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dead!
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Location: Sydney
Registered: October 2004
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Sat, 01 October 2005 06:23

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GOLD!!!
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Location: newcastle nsw
Registered: March 2005
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Sat, 01 October 2005 21:52

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this thread has died in the ass
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Registered: April 2005
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Sun, 02 October 2005 05:08

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adrian that looks mad, but i still like it as it was before,
talking to the mechanic that did the celica on fullboost.com, he says i can get 240fwkw with same turbo but changing the rear turbine (or sumfing similar)
well he has done one 12sec fwd gt2, hopefully in 1.5 years i can get one too
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Registered: April 2005
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Sun, 02 October 2005 05:10

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also i wanna camry gearbox due to the shoter ratios and the fact they r cheap as chips, can i use all cvamry parts for my m,anula conversion? or need celica pedals/shit etc
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Location: QLD, Gold Coast
Registered: February 2004
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Sun, 02 October 2005 09:23

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I thought camrys had tall ratios??
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Registered: April 2005
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Sun, 02 October 2005 09:58

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nah, shorter as far as i know, celica's ratio r long as,
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Location: Adelaide - Race Central
Registered: June 2004
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Sun, 02 October 2005 11:13

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TRD....
Dude.......The black bonnet ia solely restricted to people who have Carbon Fibre or at least fibreglass bonnets'
and thats only because they look tough with the CF material look, and are a little harder to paint coz of the shiny glossy stuff.
I laugh loudly and think weird thoughts at those who paint an otherwise perfect bonnet matt black..."just because"
I'm with Karl.....ur car looks good all Red
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Location: Melbourne
Registered: October 2003
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Sun, 02 October 2005 12:31

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jonchai wrote on Sun, 02 October 2005 21:13 | TRD....
Dude.......The black bonnet ia solely restricted to people who have Carbon Fibre or at least fibreglass bonnets'
and thats only because they look tough with the CF material look, and are a little harder to paint coz of the shiny glossy stuff.
I laugh loudly and think weird thoughts at those who paint an otherwise perfect bonnet matt black..."just because"
I'm with Karl.....ur car looks good all Red
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Its gettin a bit much replying to this sort of answer, Carbon Fibre is for people who much rather spend $400-$1000 on making their bonnet lighter (which isn't that heavy anyway) instead of going to the Gym and loosing the weight if they are that worried..
Its a look i'm after, which is what car enthusiasm is all about, opinions and everything are great, but yeah i've mentioned it a couple of times now but yeah my bonnet WILL be a GLOSS FINISH and at the moment is a TEMPORARY IDEA to figure out what to do with the paint, hardly worth sittin there for half a day perfecting the bonnet, spraying it in gloss black (from the gun) using a bucketload of thinners to then realise ur not keen on the look..
Its a trial thing, I'm actually doin stuff on the car myself which is heaps better than just giving the car to a spray shop or a mechanic to do engine work,
Its all about personal opinions yes, but its hardly fair to hold it against someone for accepting opinions but taking on their own ideas!
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Location: Sydney / NSW
Registered: March 2004
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Sun, 02 October 2005 12:54

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Jonchai, where are the pics of your car mate, we did some serious post whoring to get to the next page so you didnt post them on the same page as Adrain a couple of weeks back. come on mate, i spend a good 3 hours packing those parts, now show us some pics 
i don't think the black bonnet looks that bad, i just dont like the wheels in black Adrian, they look like steelies mate. itching for some spinner hubcaps. ,they looked like they stuck out more when they were white, it like an illusion i spose.
Karl
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Location: Adelaide - Race Central
Registered: June 2004
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Sun, 02 October 2005 14:34

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Post whore or not, Adrian's car is still on this page! thanks to.....*oh..dont worry *
nah....been slack sorry guyz......i had a full week to do something about it and i havent.....tmrw's a nice day in Adelaide so i might bring the Celica out for a shoot.
goodthings take time remember. and even then, the bonnet pins still arent on, and the car is now officially nekid. its missing the entire boot area + sparewheel, glovebox and door panels so there wont be any interior shots either
oh and Karl......i'll be needing a few more small bits and pieces if u have...will PM soon
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Location: brisbane
Registered: December 2004
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Mon, 03 October 2005 05:08

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i dont mind black bonnets but yer gloss is the money... carbon fibre is for wankers with to much money

got some speedflow fittings the other day gunna go grab some braided hose in a sec going -6 hose and fittings should be able to run a space shuttle on those lines haha
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Location: brisbane
Registered: December 2004
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Mon, 03 October 2005 05:10

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got smokes ... haha the cigarette machine liked me and decided to throw a fair few freebies my way
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