| Author | Topic |
|---|
Location:
Brisbane
Registered:
September 2004
|
|
|
Registered:
May 2002
|
|
|
Location:
Brisbane
Registered:
September 2004
|
|
Re: GT4 owners dedicated thread
|
Sat, 08 October 2005 23:02
 
|
 |
How would i go about checking error messages? i can undo the battery terminals so it resets? Not sure how to check the codes dude.
cheers
shane
|
|
|
Location:
Bulleen, Melbourne
Registered:
June 2002
|
|
Re: GT4 owners dedicated thread
|
Sun, 09 October 2005 00:16
|
|
Bridge the TE1 and E1 terminals in the diagnostic connector, and turn the ignition to ON. Count the number of flashes of the check engine light, if there are errors, the light will flash a number of times, pause for 2.5 seconds, and flash again. Example, *****...*** would be code 53 (where * is flash and ... is 2.5 second pause). It then pauses 5 seconds, and if there are further codes it will flash them up, or else it will repeat the same one. If there are no errors, it will flash steadily.
Celicatech's main page has a full BGB online, check the EFI diagnostic section for a better explanation and what the codes mean.
|
|
|
Location:
Brisbane
Registered:
September 2004
|
|
Re: GT4 owners dedicated thread
|
Sun, 09 October 2005 00:36
|
|
Thanks alot for that tooch, never checked out that celicatech site much, will do now. Thanks!
|
|
|
Location:
Bulleen, Melbourne
Registered:
June 2002
|
|
Re: GT4 owners dedicated thread
|
Sun, 09 October 2005 00:37
|
|
No probs mate, the online BGB is about the only thing that I use on that site now, don't really use the forums on there much 
|
|
|
Location:
Brisbane, Queensland
Registered:
January 2004
|
|
Re: GT4 owners dedicated thread
|
Sun, 09 October 2005 02:38
|
|
The full BGB can be downloaded off my website for anyone interested. I have the ST165,St185,St185V2 books avaiable.
Follow the link in my sig. And goto the BGB directory. (appraox 25mb each)
|
|
|
I Supported Toymods
Location:
Sydney
Registered:
December 2002
|
|
Re: GT4 owners dedicated thread
|
Sun, 09 October 2005 02:40
|
|
|
Yep the stuff in Lances signature is definately worth leeching!
|
|
|
Location:
Colac, Victoria
Registered:
May 2002
|
|
Re: GT4 owners dedicated thread
|
Sun, 09 October 2005 02:44
|
|
do you think the ABS was a hinderance or a help Puffy ?
had thought about findidng exactly what youve taken out to put on mine ..
Im not going for all out ET speed and trackwork like yours, but it would be a good thing on a street car ..
|
|
|
Registered:
May 2002
|
|
Re: GT4 owners dedicated thread
|
Sun, 09 October 2005 03:14
|
|
| Classique71 wrote on Sun, 09 October 2005 12:44 |
do you think the ABS was a hinderance or a help Puffy ?
had thought about findidng exactly what youve taken out to put on mine ..
Im not going for all out ET speed and trackwork like yours, but it would be a good thing on a street car ..
|
On a street car its good but once I upgraded the brakes the ABS was kicking in way too prematurely. I do not recommand you install ABS in your car as once you remove the G-force sensor it is difficult to re-align. If this is not done right your ABS will not function correctly. All the wiring should be there but you will need the sensors and relays. You also would need to swap your CV's...... Are you still keen ? If so you will also have to drop the motor to do the install 
|
|
|
Location:
Colac, Victoria
Registered:
May 2002
|
|
Re: GT4 owners dedicated thread
|
Sun, 09 October 2005 03:21
|
|
lol - after the explaination and all - nahh mate 
heh - didnt realise it was so in depth then what it is , and well - im uprading the brakes as well so they most likley would have the same issues on my car..
My engines been dropped out enough times already - im hioping it stays in for a while now
|
|
|
Location:
melbourne
Registered:
November 2003
|
|
|
Location:
Brisbane, Queensland
Registered:
January 2004
|
|
|
Location:
Sydney
Registered:
October 2002
|
|
Re: GT4 owners dedicated thread
|
Tue, 11 October 2005 02:00
|
|
| sikx5 wrote on Sat, 08 October 2005 22:29 |
Id appreciate anyones input as to why shes running so rich?? any advice? I have a exhuast leak in the manifold according to them. And there must be a boost leak, 112.5kw at 5/6 psi in 4th gear, doesnt sound right?
|
I replaced my O2 sensor recently, as I discovered it wasn't working properly (didn't show up on error codes but). It now seems to be running much leaner than before. No more plumes of black smoke at high revs, & much better fuel consumption. Half a tank on the run to Bathurst & back on the weekend (350km) was pretty good. Haven't run a full tank to measure consumption yet.
On another topic, I rang Just Cars to update some details today. Damn I hate insurance. After 20 mins on the phone there was no way I could convince them higher than $13k agreed value even with low kays, despite me mentioning that at least 2 other people with the same car insured with them have agreed values way higher than that. Even going through the whole 'rare, collectable, this a group A' explanations. Plus, they've changed the excesses on all GT4s to $1200 (used to be $900, or $1200 for theft).
|
|
|
Location:
Melbourne
Registered:
February 2005
|
|
Re: GT4 owners dedicated thread
|
Tue, 11 October 2005 03:01
|
|
guys the price i got for the ST185 Whiteline Works Kit is $1600+gst. that doesnt include the bump stops or the control arm bushes but i've ordered those aswell.
|
|
|
Location:
Colac, Victoria
Registered:
May 2002
|
|
Re: GT4 owners dedicated thread
|
Tue, 11 October 2005 03:03
|
|
Tony , Speak to shannons .. they are going to be a bit more expensive but will cover the group A happily ..
They know what the car actually stands for , i got grilled regarding mine - and only got full cover for it after explaining what i had planned for a once stock Gt4 , Now group A bitsa ..
I also explained my involvment in motorclubs ( toymods , for example ) and my interest in club based racing and such and their attitiude went " no problem , we'll do whatever you want .."
Dependng on the level of mods you plan to do , youd see a quote less than 2 grand with a half decent aggreed value id hope ..
1 was paying 1600 a year for basic full comprehensive and 11 grand agreed value with them before switching to modified cover and a higher agrreed value,
Im now paying $2200 a year , full modified coverage with a current aggreed value of 18 grand . 27 yo , and 1 year away from being rating 1 for life
|
|
|
Location:
Sydney
Registered:
October 2002
|
|
Re: GT4 owners dedicated thread
|
Tue, 11 October 2005 03:57
|
|
|
Thanks for the suggestion Stu. Unfortunately I've tried Shannons, and they won't cover me unless my car is garaged, so Just Cars is my only option. I couldn't really justify $2k for insurance anyway. Luckily Just Cars is only $1200, which I guess is saving me a bit every year
|
|
|
Location:
Colac, Victoria
Registered:
May 2002
|
|
Re: GT4 owners dedicated thread
|
Tue, 11 October 2005 04:28
|
|
Tony , thts bad news about the response , hopefully youll have a place to keep her locked up eventually
Remember though , my quote from shannons isnt for standard cover ..
ive got alot of extras whacked on it to cover the modifications ive made ( like the computer + engine , the bodywork , the suspension etc ) , and i also pushed them for a higher agreed value - so it bumped up the figure from about 1900 a year , to over 2 grand ..
|
|
|
Location:
Newcastle
Registered:
June 2004
|
|
|
Location:
Bulleen, Melbourne
Registered:
June 2002
|
|
Re: GT4 owners dedicated thread
|
Tue, 11 October 2005 08:00
|
|
I've been watching those cheap dump pipes on ebay for a while now, anyone actually use one? I have heard from some people that they are shit, some other people say they are decent.
For ~$199 as opposed to $500+, I am wondering if they are worthwhile.
|
|
|
Location:
Bulleen, Melbourne
Registered:
June 2002
|
|
Re: GT4 owners dedicated thread
|
Tue, 11 October 2005 08:04
|
|
| Tony wrote on Tue, 11 October 2005 12:00 |
| sikx5 wrote on Sat, 08 October 2005 22:29 |
Id appreciate anyones input as to why shes running so rich?? any advice? I have a exhuast leak in the manifold according to them. And there must be a boost leak, 112.5kw at 5/6 psi in 4th gear, doesnt sound right?
|
I replaced my O2 sensor recently, as I discovered it wasn't working properly (didn't show up on error codes but). It now seems to be running much leaner than before. No more plumes of black smoke at high revs, & much better fuel consumption. Half a tank on the run to Bathurst & back on the weekend (350km) was pretty good. Haven't run a full tank to measure consumption yet.
On another topic, I rang Just Cars to update some details today. Damn I hate insurance. After 20 mins on the phone there was no way I could convince them higher than $13k agreed value even with low kays, despite me mentioning that at least 2 other people with the same car insured with them have agreed values way higher than that. Even going through the whole 'rare, collectable, this a group A' explanations. Plus, they've changed the excesses on all GT4s to $1200 (used to be $900, or $1200 for theft).
|
Tony, how much did the 02 cost you? Genuine Toyota or aftermarket? Did you follow the BGB procedure to test it?
My car is using ridiculous amounts of fuel and the 02 sensor is something else I'm trying to eliminate as a cause.
|
|
|
Location:
Melbourne
Registered:
February 2005
|
|
Re: GT4 owners dedicated thread
|
Tue, 11 October 2005 10:07
|
|
these guys also sell the ebay dump pipes..
http://www.monstaperformance.com
but i've never dealt with them so couldnt say how good/reliable they are.
|
|
|
Location:
Vic
Registered:
April 2004
|
|
|
Location:
melbourne
Registered:
November 2003
|
|
Re: GT4 owners dedicated thread
|
Wed, 12 October 2005 02:44
|
|
absolutely wicked!
find me a 205 halfcut and ill take out a loan, god damn.
dude when u gona take that beast to the track or at least a dyno?!?
|
|
|
Location:
Colac, Victoria
Registered:
May 2002
|
|
Re: GT4 owners dedicated thread
|
Wed, 12 October 2005 03:03
|
|
looking fantastic Kyoto - cant wait to see it in the flesh
that bonnet came out much better than i thought it was , and you;; definantly notice an improvement cooling wise under there ..
Did you manage to get the little fevent to sit right and hook down onto th cam cover , or did you have to make something up ..
If you need to see how its done from the factory - ill be glad to show you on mine when i get it back
PS , next step - get some hot rims on her , and it will def. get the best 165 vote from me
|
|
|
Registered:
May 2002
|
|
Re: GT4 owners dedicated thread
|
Wed, 12 October 2005 03:32
|
|
That bonnet scoop has already ran a 12 sec qtr mile imagine how quick it will go on a lighter GT4 
Definitly time for some rims..... Im thinking 16" white wheels. 17" look out of place for some reason on a 165.
|
|
|
Location:
Vic
Registered:
April 2004
|
|
Re: GT4 owners dedicated thread
|
Wed, 12 October 2005 04:29
|
|
Thanks for the comments. I haven't bothered with the cam duct just yet, though i prolly will when i get some more time.
Defintely agree with the rims comments, already got some (5x114.3) 16" P1s which i might get some hub adaptors for, but that will require rolling/lipping the guards. Dunno if i can be bothered, though the alternative i'd look at are TE37s which are considerably more expensive. Dunno what i'll do. Glad to have the fecker back on the road to tell you the truth!
After rims, it needs coilovers then the bugger is done for good!!
|
|
|
Location:
Hobart, Tasmania
Registered:
January 2005
|
|
Re: GT4 owners dedicated thread
|
Wed, 12 October 2005 05:01
|
|
|
Thats awesome KYOTO! The bonnet came up great!
|
|
|
Location:
Brisbane
Registered:
September 2004
|
|
Re: GT4 owners dedicated thread
|
Wed, 12 October 2005 06:08
|
|
Woah!! good stuff there Kyoto! Looks great
I love how you build up the vent too, so its a hump, very nice, not just slapped on a ordinary flat bonnet.
|
|
|
Location:
Bulleen, Melbourne
Registered:
June 2002
|
|
Re: GT4 owners dedicated thread
|
Wed, 12 October 2005 07:54
|
|
Mate that looks awesome, looks factory fitted!
|
|
|
Location:
Melb, Victoria
Registered:
April 2004
|
|
Re: GT4 owners dedicated thread
|
Wed, 12 October 2005 08:10
|
|
Bonnet scoop looks awesome man. nice st165
I wanna try putting some vents onto my bonnet now!
|
|
|
Location:
melbourne
Registered:
November 2003
|
|
Re: GT4 owners dedicated thread
|
Wed, 12 October 2005 08:43
|
|
|
who did the work on the bonnet and how much did it end up costing ya?
|
|
|
Location:
Vic
Registered:
April 2004
|
|
Re: GT4 owners dedicated thread
|
Wed, 12 October 2005 10:22
|
|
Thanks again for the comments guys. Nice to see the effort and cost has been worthwhile. Work was done by a guy named Ange who is the in house panel beater at Toyospares. He takes his time (about 2 months!) but in retrospect im glad, the results speak for themselves.
I bought Puffy's vent for $200 and then the panel work/painting cost me $1,050. The bonnet pins were about $30 from memory. Unfortunately for me i have put so much money into the car thus far that selling it isn't really an option, so i've adopted a "spare no expense policy". I just keep telling myself that over-capitalisation doesn't exist as long as you never dispose of the asset!
There are a couple more bits and pieces i have lying around waiting to be fitted. It's still running the original clutch the 205 donor car came with from the showroom floor so i've ordered a stage 3 clutch and lightweight flywheel combo. I have an Aussie 3" DP and midpipe from the old motor waiting to be fitted and will look into a decent EBC but apart from that the only mod its running is a pod filter, 2.5" cat back system, and short shift kit. When all your friends have already been OS a number of times im getting fairly sick of cars. Just wanna spend some time in the bloody thing, its off the road so often...
PS: if anyone is itnerested in an brand new 165 lightweight flywheel i have one thats of no use to me.
|
|
|
Location:
Colac, Victoria
Registered:
May 2002
|
|
Re: GT4 owners dedicated thread
|
Wed, 12 October 2005 10:58
|
|
i read the bit about " spare no expense " policy
I Crossed this when my engine blew the HG to bits , and things kept falling into my lap , like forged pistons , and st205 gearboxes ..
So far bar 2 mishaps its been worth it ..
the bank account hates me - but at least i kknow stuff is done right , the first time
|
|
|
Location:
Canberra
Registered:
November 2004
|
|
|
Location:
Colac, Victoria
Registered:
May 2002
|
|
Re: GT4 owners dedicated thread
|
Wed, 12 October 2005 12:10
|
|
my guess - somewhere between 110 - 120 ..
seems to be the figure of regularity before people start uppig boost beyond 12psi and installing fancy computers and stuff
|
|
|
Location:
London - for a while anyw...
Registered:
August 2003
|
|
Re: GT4 owners dedicated thread
|
Wed, 12 October 2005 13:02
|
|
Hello all. I'm in need of some help. I've come into possession of a 1989 ST165 needing some new bearings in the engine. I was wondering if anyone knows the parts number for the mains and big end bearings.
It's a JDM model brought to the UK and hopefully on its way to Oz next year.
Thanks,
Chris.
|
|
|
Location:
melbourne
Registered:
November 2003
|
|
Re: GT4 owners dedicated thread
|
Wed, 12 October 2005 13:06
|
|
|
wow, 1000$ is alot, i had no idea it would be so much.
|
|
|
Location:
Colac, Victoria
Registered:
May 2002
|
|
Re: GT4 owners dedicated thread
|
Wed, 12 October 2005 13:07
|
|
now correct me if im wrong but if you go genuine you really need to have the crank out first as theres no set " set " of bearings that line up - each have numbers - ie 1 2 3 or 4 according to the size or something
I vaguely recall being told this when i had my engine rebuilt
I know you can get King bearings to suit but im not sure if they regrind to suit , or match the numbers needed ..
Its a wierd one mate - sorry to be vague but im positive i remember something along this line..
** ps im on really good sleepy drugs atm - so i may not even know what im on about right this moment **
|
|
|
Location:
Vic
Registered:
April 2004
|
|
|
Location:
London - for a while anyw...
Registered:
August 2003
|
|
Re: GT4 owners dedicated thread
|
Wed, 12 October 2005 14:54
|
|
|
Thanks Stu. Just had a shop over here finally get back to me, and they said the same thing. Looks like this could be a 2 weekend job.
|
|
|
Location:
melbourne
Registered:
November 2003
|
|
Re: GT4 owners dedicated thread
|
Thu, 13 October 2005 01:27
|
|
lol kyoto, i didnt say anything about hybrid Ct's or aussie stuff. i said 1000$ was expensive, hahah.
but im sorta at the same place a the moment. im gona spend about $2500 on suspension, and dont know whether to leave it at that and get a new car eventually, or do up the gt4. and if i do up the gt4, wether to do teh 205 swap which will cost about 7-8k! or just do a little bit to teh standard engine.
|
|
|
Location:
Canberra ACT
Registered:
November 2002
|
|
Re: GT4 owners dedicated thread
|
Thu, 13 October 2005 02:02
|
|
| BlackGT4 wrote on Tue, 11 October 2005 13:01 |
guys the price i got for the ST185 Whiteline Works Kit is $1600+gst. that doesnt include the bump stops or the control arm bushes but i've ordered those aswell.
|
Ummmm.. so what happened to the $870? 
|
|
|
Location:
Canberra
Registered:
August 2003
|
|
Re: GT4 owners dedicated thread
|
Thu, 13 October 2005 04:23
|
|
Nice find
|
|
|
I supported Toymods
Location:
Perth, Western Australia
Registered:
December 2002
|
|
Re: GT4 owners dedicated thread
|
Thu, 13 October 2005 04:27
|
|
|
Took my ST205 to the drags last night - consistant 13.5's with 1.9 60' times from standard motor running factory 10psi and full street trim, quite pleased with it.
|
|
|
Location:
Canberra
Registered:
August 2003
|
|
|
Location:
Canberra ACT
Registered:
November 2002
|
|
Re: GT4 owners dedicated thread
|
Thu, 13 October 2005 04:50
|
|
Hey Chris,
I've been monitoring my economy lately and I've been getting consistent low 11's (11.3ish litres per 100km). That is with pretty easy driving and plenty of 80-100km/h stuff.
|
|
|
Location:
Canberra
Registered:
August 2003
|
|
Re: GT4 owners dedicated thread
|
Thu, 13 October 2005 04:56
|
|
Matty,
Im not sure if I should be worried or not. Fuel consumption was a lot better pre-rebuild, but compression was shit and power was much lower. Not sure just seemed strange cos i would have thought low compression probably didn't help the economy.
|
|
|
Location:
melbourne
Registered:
November 2003
|
|
Re: GT4 owners dedicated thread
|
Thu, 13 October 2005 05:33
|
|
clg , thats awsome
congrats on those times.
|
|
|
Location:
Bulleen, Melbourne
Registered:
June 2002
|
|
Re: GT4 owners dedicated thread
|
Thu, 13 October 2005 07:00
|
|
| Squid wrote on Thu, 13 October 2005 14:38 |
What sort of economy are people getting, im not convinced mine is all that good, I get about 450km off 55 litres.
which of course is about 12 per 100km 
|
I'm getting about 350km, from full until the light comes on...so probably around 50-55L too.
I need to look into this, its fucken costing me too much 
|
|
|
Location:
Colac, Victoria
Registered:
May 2002
|
|
Re: GT4 owners dedicated thread
|
Thu, 13 October 2005 08:19
|
|
i got between 11 and 12 normally
its a turbo perfomance car - its never going to be a fruvilous corolla ..
expect above 10 to be normal - but anything higher than 13 - well - theres something amiss there - most idssues seem to come wuith cars that either have had no mods , Ie o2 sensor wearing out or AFM issues , or ones that have been played about with , with piggyback boost controllers and FCD's etc set up wrong ..
Thats what ive noticed anyway - Does your car fall into either of these ?
|
|
|
Location:
Colac, Victoria
Registered:
May 2002
|
|
|
Location:
Melbourne
Registered:
February 2005
|
|
Re: GT4 owners dedicated thread
|
Thu, 13 October 2005 09:27
|
|
| Matty P wrote on Thu, 13 October 2005 12:02 |
| BlackGT4 wrote on Tue, 11 October 2005 13:01 |
guys the price i got for the ST185 Whiteline Works Kit is $1600+gst. that doesnt include the bump stops or the control arm bushes but i've ordered those aswell.
|
Ummmm.. so what happened to the $870?
|
Ummm.. i never said $870
|
|
|
Location:
melbourne
Registered:
November 2003
|
|
Re: GT4 owners dedicated thread
|
Thu, 13 October 2005 10:15
|
|
i think i said 870, but thats just for springs and shocks.
im not sure if that was with tax or without, but im pretty sure it was without. that was also for st165 not 185.
hye black gt4, i ordered my works kit today too, and i got he bumpstops as extras. gona cost around 1900 
fark!
|
|
|
Location:
Melbourne
Registered:
February 2005
|
|
Re: GT4 owners dedicated thread
|
Thu, 13 October 2005 10:38
|
|
bugger it.lol
i ordered mine on tuesday.
the main reason i decided to order it was because i know how much it will add to the car, and the overall results have be proven to be good as well.
|
|
|
Location:
Canberra
Registered:
November 2004
|
|
|
Registered:
May 2002
|
|
Re: GT4 owners dedicated thread
|
Thu, 13 October 2005 12:08
|
|
| Classique71 wrote on Thu, 13 October 2005 18:34 |
It Shall return - FINALLY - with a full set of St205 Rotors and calipers on every corner !
w00t!
|
Good to hear there was no damage but Damn you and your rear st205 brake setup on your hot GT4 
|
|
|
Location:
Canberra ACT
Registered:
November 2002
|
|
Re: GT4 owners dedicated thread
|
Thu, 13 October 2005 12:28
|
|
| YGT04A wrote on Thu, 13 October 2005 22:06 |
Hi every one
Im pulling my turbo off this weekend and I would like any helpful hints in how to do this.
I will be pulling the radiator and intercooler out and I had someone suggest pulling the aircon compressor out, and I was thinking about taking the alternator out as well.
Any other suggestions?
Cheers
Jono
|
This is something I will have to do shortly, so I have been looking for similar info. I found this article http://www.celicagtfour.com/turbo_swop.htm which looks pretty good. Also there is some info in the BGB (available online) for removing the turbo.
Good luck with it and let us know how you go! BTW - who's doing your hi-flow and what is the approx cost?
|
|
|
Location:
Sydney
Registered:
October 2002
|
|
Re: GT4 owners dedicated thread
|
Thu, 13 October 2005 14:52
|
|
| tooch wrote on Tue, 11 October 2005 18:04 |
Tony, how much did the 02 cost you? Genuine Toyota or aftermarket? Did you follow the BGB procedure to test it?
My car is using ridiculous amounts of fuel and the 02 sensor is something else I'm trying to eliminate as a cause.
|
I bought a genuine Denso one from oxygensensors.com
Was about $150 including postage (better than the $260 quoted by Toyota, and which would have to be ordered from Japan).
Yeah, I followed the BGB procedure.
|
|
|
Location:
Canberra
Registered:
October 2004
|
|
Re: GT4 owners dedicated thread
|
Thu, 13 October 2005 21:46
|
|
| YGT04A wrote on Thu, 13 October 2005 22:06 |
Hi
Im pulling my turbo off this weekend and I would like any helpful hints in how to do this.
|
It's all in my Hanes manual. Come pick it up tonight, it should help you plenty.
|
|
|
