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Banned by his request
Location: moved to tamworth
Registered: July 2002
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Banned by his request
Location: moved to tamworth
Registered: July 2002
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Re: Turbo 4age
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Sat, 15 February 2003 05:14

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ok parts so far!
autronic sm2
msd 6a ingnition
10mm custom race leads
lots of sensors
arp bolts in rod,main and head studs
dash 3,4,8,12,16 fittings
braided hose for above
vernier cam gears
billet cams
race springs
under buckets
stainless valves
vernier cam gears
cheese cutter
new T3 high flowed for the moment
custom stainless turbo manifold
blow off valve
external wastegate
plazman intercooler and radiator
s5 rx7 oil cooler
remote oil filter
powersteering cooler
fuel cooler
surge tank
lift pump
600hp fuel pump
sx fuel reg
750cc injectors
custom fuel rail
large fuel line, feed and return
4 wire oxy sensors{haha i have 8 new ones sitting in my desk draw and yes im only using 1 not 8}.
exedy ceramic button clutch
catch can
silicone hose
gauges, oil pressure and temp,water temp,fuel pressure,boost pressure and tacho. the data logging on the sm2 gives me the rest.
so of the other parts
outlaw alloy 4 spot race calipers with t7 alloy mounting brackets and wilwood race pads.
brake bias ajuster
ajustable swaybars
coilovers
rollcage
quickshifter
etc
cant think of the rest of the top of my head!
but its getting there, not bad for a shopping trolley motor hey!
should give me a few kw i hope.
mick
p.s will the nrma still insure my ae93!haha
pps and all above done for under $1000 just kidding
[Updated on: Sat, 15 February 2003 05:28]
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Location: Eastwood, Sydney, NSW, Au...
Registered: July 2002
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Re: Turbo 4age
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Sat, 15 February 2003 11:48

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wow, how long did the work take u?
what is the "stock blue" engine.... my one is silver???
have heard people keep referring to blue and red top.... dunno what u guys are referring to?
97kw @ the wheels would be more than adequate... with that sort of power... I would be happy with it, as long as it is reliable
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Location: Auckland
Registered: May 2002
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Re: Turbo 4age
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Sat, 15 February 2003 12:17

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mixtures were upped via ae92 100kw FPR which is 2.9kg/cm2 over 2.55 kg/cm2 and also 10k variable resistor on the water temp sensor ..map sensor bleed so boost not detected ..and voila boost ..aftermarket ecu is much better but this was fine .. at 8psi it was more like 115kw-120@wheels ..fuel economy was also around 450kms for 45l so was a good package .. .this setup would be reliable if you use a surge tank and also upgrade radiator to ensure overheat does not occur .. over heat was the reason for the demise of first motor in yellow car.
If anyone wants pics you can email me drifter4ag@garagedori.com or visit website there may be a few on there ..also my old car is featured on steves site www.turbocorolla.com
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Location: Mackay QLD
Registered: November 2002
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Re: Turbo 4age
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Sat, 15 February 2003 13:58

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I was told that the fuel control for the temp scensor diddnt work with turbo. can you explain how you got it to work.Pictures would be good?
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Location: Auckland
Registered: May 2002
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Re: Turbo 4age
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Sun, 16 February 2003 09:00

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It just runs from the water temp sensor at the back of the head ..throught to cabin ..it intercepts the signal from the sensor before it hits the ecu ..with a 10k resistor you have quite alot of fuel available so much that it will just sit there coughing out black smoke at some levels.
I have had no problem with the running of this method ..except when n/a it is harder to set it as is usually almost always 2 much fuel.. i could take some pics ...but if people want more info on my setups its best to email me drifter4ag@garagedori.com
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Location: Sydney
Registered: January 2004
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Re: Turbo 4age
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Sat, 03 July 2004 09:35

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Most of the setups have been MAP sensored 4ages that have been turbod..is the AFM model 4age turbo a similar deal i.e can trick standard comp to allow for the boost .
Sorry old post I found that is quite interesting
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Location: Mackay QLD
Registered: November 2002
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Re: Turbo 4age
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Fri, 09 July 2004 09:14

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Sorry dont know never played with air flow meter?
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Location: Gold Coast
Registered: June 2004
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Re: Turbo 4age
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Tue, 13 July 2004 12:57

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I have a standard blue top (86Kw) 4a-ge in a ae82 and i want to put a turbo on it, my engine is map sensered, i have a 8-10psi turbo but i will bleed down to about 4psi... i have been told about a squillion different things to do, i dunno... what will i need to make it run ok???????????? i know an engineer so i will be sweet for money but i need to know about fuel/ignition, change the ecu or no/map senser, i need to know the work if anyone has turbo'd my car before
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Location: Syndey
Registered: December 2002
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Re: Turbo 4age
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Wed, 14 July 2004 00:15

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just change the ecu and do it properly,
you will get the bug and want to run more than 4psi boost, with a ecu and injector change 15psi is not a problem
Dale
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Location: Gold Coast
Registered: June 2004
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Re: Turbo 4age
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Wed, 14 July 2004 08:47

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so if i get stock gze injectors and a new ecu i will be sweet? and you say up to 15psi? how long will my engine last? how much power will i get from 4psi boost? What sorta ecu should i get and how much am i looking at?
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Location: Syndey
Registered: December 2002
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Re: Turbo 4age
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Wed, 14 July 2004 22:09

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stock GZE injectors are good to about 15psi boost,
most stock turbos will not run 4psi boost with out some mods to the wastegate,
on 15psi the motor will last for a long time if you look after it, ie good fuel, good tune etc,
go off other stock 4age's i have turboed they tend to make about 180rwhp on 10-11psi boost,
a microtech LT8s will cost you $1650 installed and tuned plus $100 per hour dyno hire
Dale
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Location: Gold Coast
Registered: June 2004
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Re: Turbo 4age
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Thu, 15 July 2004 01:04

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yeah, i can get a new spring for the waistgate to bleed boost to 4psi... will this be good, will i need a new ecu if i have this boost? And its a ae82 hatch, front wheels drive
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Location: Syndey
Registered: December 2002
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Re: Turbo 4age
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Thu, 15 July 2004 01:08

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it might work, i cant see the point in going to all this effort to convert it to turbo and use 4psi boost, its pointless, do it properly and change the injectors and ecu, 4psi wont do much at all..
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Location: Gold Coast
Registered: June 2004
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Re: Turbo 4age
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Thu, 15 July 2004 09:19

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well, if i only change the injectors and ecu i will then have to decompress after like, 5-6psi so there is no point getting that if im not gonna rebuild my engine and go 15-20psi. The 4 psi will give me just the xtra hp i want, i dont want to kill myself... i just wanna keep up with decent cars... i can get injectors cheap but remap or new ecu will be wayy to much
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Location: western suburbs,sydney
Registered: June 2002
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Re: Turbo 4age
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Thu, 15 July 2004 12:25

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Im doin my conversion from s/c to turbo. My dyno reading was 98.7kw ATW with the blower what kind of power figures am i going to expect? i'm using a T28BB.
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Location: camden
Registered: September 2003
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Re: Turbo 4age
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Thu, 15 July 2004 13:10

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depends how much boost you run...
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Location: western suburbs,sydney
Registered: June 2002
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Re: Turbo 4age
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Thu, 15 July 2004 13:41

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Around 14 pound or so.
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Location: Syndey
Registered: December 2002
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Re: Turbo 4age
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Thu, 15 July 2004 22:14

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Fudge,
give it a go, if the motor blows then you will be up for a rebuild, inejctors and ecu will insure it will not blow,
a stock 4age will handle 10-15psi no problems at all with the right tune and will make over 200hp at the wheels,
the money you spend on a ecu now will save you a rebuild in the future,
i have tune 20v turbos that have the stock 20v motor and on 8psi with a baby turbo it made 190rwhp it is still running strong!
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Location: Syndey
Registered: December 2002
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Re: Turbo 4age
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Thu, 15 July 2004 22:16

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serge wrote on Thu, 15 July 2004 23:41 | Around 14 pound or so.
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you will make around 150kw at the wheels on 14-15psi,
the last GZE with a t28 i tuned loved the boost, we will wind it up to 20psi later on and it will make around 200kw at the wheels,
Dale
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Location: Gold Coast
Registered: June 2004
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Location: Syndey
Registered: December 2002
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Re: Turbo 4age
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Fri, 16 July 2004 03:11

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a stock 86kw with a microtech etc makes 104rwhp, you will be sturggling to make 110kw at the wheels on 4psi boost,
i reckon 95-100kw max
dale
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Location: Mackay QLD
Registered: November 2002
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Re: Turbo 4age
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Fri, 16 July 2004 19:59

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IF THAT!?
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Location: Gold Coast
Registered: June 2004
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Re: Turbo 4age
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Thu, 12 August 2004 06:22

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Hey, just found out i can get my car running 7psi on stock internals... all i gotta do is get my map-ecu re-programmed and thats it
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Location: New Zealand
Registered: May 2002
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Location: Syndey
Registered: December 2002
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Re: Turbo 4age
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Thu, 12 August 2004 22:11
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fudge1987 wrote on Thu, 12 August 2004 16:22 | Hey, just found out i can get my car running 7psi on stock internals... all i gotta do is get my map-ecu re-programmed and thats it
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good luck getting the factory ecu reprogramed
i have been saying stock internals are perfect for up to 15psi for a long time now,
funny how no body listens when i have proven this time and time again....
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