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Coffs Harbour
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River
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Fri, 11 November 2005 14:18
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http://edition.cnn.com/2005/US/11/04/suicide.inter net/index.html
not very funny but i did find it amusing that one of our own regulars uses other web forums 
"Suzanne's dad believes one of those messages taught her how to illegally obtain and use cyanide to end her life. And he was horrified to learn that an older ASH member who goes by the alias "River" may have helped her"
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Location:
Adelaide - Race Central
Registered:
June 2004
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Re: River
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Fri, 11 November 2005 14:45
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Waiting patiently for "River" to reply!!!!
He's been up to NO good!!!!! assume the position!!! 
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Location:
Coffs Harbour
Registered:
October 2004
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Re: River
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Fri, 11 November 2005 14:55
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i think hes in trouble
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I Supported Toymods
Location:
Casula
Registered:
January 2005
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Re: River
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Fri, 11 November 2005 21:18
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Good job of advertising.
This now has the potential to increase the membership of this news group by 13026 members.
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Location:
Land of Oz
Registered:
June 2004
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Re: River
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Sat, 12 November 2005 00:04
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Hi,
Now listen here chaps....
I can neither confirm nor deny those allegations. You'll have to speak to my lawyer.
seeyuzz
river
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Location:
Coffs Harbour
Registered:
October 2004
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Re: River
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Sat, 12 November 2005 05:14
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ill ring him monday morning
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Location:
melbourne
Registered:
February 2005
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Re: River
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Sat, 12 November 2005 08:22
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why have we never been open for this info river?
*i dont tihnk i know you any more* 
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Location:
Land of Oz
Registered:
June 2004
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Re: River
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Sun, 13 November 2005 06:57
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Hi,
Well it's not the sort of thing one devulges on a car forum.
I'm still the same lovable chappy as always. I know you guys still love and adore me. 
seeyuzz
river
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Location:
melbourne
Registered:
February 2005
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Re: River
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Sun, 13 November 2005 07:38
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| river wrote on Sun, 13 November 2005 17:57 |
Hi,
Well it's not the sort of thing one devulges on a car forum.
I'm still the same lovable chappy as always. I know you guys still love and adore me.
seeyuzz
river
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were would we be with out a wise old man.. who says we need more 18rg in that!
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Location:
Brisbane
Registered:
October 2002
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Re: River
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Sun, 13 November 2005 08:29
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i doubt that old man river would've done thast, if he had've he'd have told her the best and only way to die is to "inhale the intoxicating aroma of an 18RG exhaust till u cark it"
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Location:
Land of Oz
Registered:
June 2004
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Re: River
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Sun, 13 November 2005 09:47
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Hi,
I love the smell of a rich-running 18RG in the morning!
Death by twin cam. There's something romantic and special in that.
seeyuzz
river
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Location:
perth
Registered:
October 2005
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Re: River
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Sun, 13 November 2005 10:12
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i agree jk
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I Supported Toymods
Location:
Casula
Registered:
January 2005
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Re: River
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Sun, 13 November 2005 20:16
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CO, With the price of fuel this is now to expensive.
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Location:
Arthurs Creek, Victoria
Registered:
May 2002
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Re: River
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Wed, 16 November 2005 05:42
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That isn't really the Toymods "River" is it?
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Location:
Land of Oz
Registered:
June 2004
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Re: River
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Wed, 16 November 2005 11:33
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Hi,
The "Toymods river".... I like that! 
I'm in numerous forums, many of them related to Toyotas - especially 1st gen Celicas, but I also haunt other forums like the various rubber fetish, lesbian doctors, aliens & UFOs, the egyptian "sphinxta & phuck you" forum, beaver eaters, female circumcision, philosophy, steam engine revival, war gaming, old computers, conspiracy theories, MILF, homebuilt cyclatron making, advanced telescope making, celestial photography, perones disease, sci-fi writers, aerospace, Gorean, and........... ASH.
I'm a man of many talents and have my hooks into many things.
seeyuzz
river
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Location:
Central Coast, NSW
Registered:
February 2005
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Re: River
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Wed, 16 November 2005 13:22
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Hi,
A question, River -
Is your bed made out of old 18RG parts?
Cheers,
James
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Location:
Arthurs Creek, Victoria
Registered:
May 2002
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Re: River
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Wed, 16 November 2005 23:32
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So It is serious then?
I was going to give you the benefit of my doubt, but I guess there's no need for that.
In the most politest of ways, that story doesn't do anything for your public opinion. What the hell were you thinking?
I know the internet is all about freedom of information, and you can't be responsible for what people do with that information, but I have to say what the hell would you need to be doing stuff like that for?
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Location:
Central Coast, NSW
Registered:
February 2005
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Re: River
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Wed, 16 November 2005 23:51
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| stradlater wrote on Thu, 17 November 2005 10:32 |
So It is serious then?
I was going to give you the benefit of my doubt, but I guess there's no need for that.
In the most politest of ways, that story doesn't do anything for your public opinion. What the hell were you thinking?
I know the internet is all about freedom of information, and you can't be responsible for what people do with that information, but I have to say what the hell would you need to be doing stuff like that for?
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whoa whoa whoa
man, he's joking! far out!
LOL
It's not really the toymods river, he's just yanking your chain.
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Location:
Arthurs Creek, Victoria
Registered:
May 2002
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Re: River
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Wed, 16 November 2005 23:55
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Well, that's alright then.
I thought he was a little blase' about it all.
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May 2002
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Re: River
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Thu, 17 November 2005 00:18
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This article however contains the real River:
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(MSN) Kevin Knowles seemed to have everything going for him.
A bubbly 19-year-old with loving parents and good friends, he was also a strong student and earned a Bonza Badge in year 12.
But everything changed one spring day two months ago, when Kevs parents, Macca and Shazza, received the following e-mail.
"Dear Mum, Dad, and Bazza, I will make this short as I know. It will be hard to deal with. If you haven't heard by now, I've started drifting in industrial estates in my AE86" the e-mail read.
Alone on a beautiful right hander, just kilometres from his caravan, Kevin methodically prepared and began his approach to the corner, where his use of the E-brake and feint drift action led to his death by leaving the road and wrapping himself around a light pole.
In doing so, he joined the roughly 4,000 people between the ages of 15 and 19 who suffer dorifto death each year, according to the RTA. Dorifto death is now the third leading cause of death among young people, the RTA reports.
But Kevins case has an unusual twist. He frequented an Internet Forum called www.toymods.com
Members of this news group trade advice on how to street drift, using code words like 'slide' and 'entry speed' and 'drift angle'. Kevin found this group nine weeks before he died, posting nearly one hundred messages detailing the specs of his eight-six and his plans of fitting a 4AGE.
"My chosen method is e-brake....I've stopped throttle induced powerslides," one of Kevins posts read.
Kevins father claims the Forum group gave him everything he needed to kill himself.
"The knowledge, the tools, their psychological encouragement. ... He was led to his death," Macca Knowles said.
Forum Groups like www.toymods.com work something like an online bulletin board. Anyone with a computer and some basic Internet knowledge can gain free access to thousands of messages about dorifto. And they can post their own messages.
An archived section of the site called "The Drift Methods File" contains a list of instructions, recommendations and tips on the best and worst ways to street drift.
Kevins dad believes one of those messages taught him how to remove the button on his rear seat that activates the fold down mechanism and use it on his handbrake. And he was horrified to learn that an older www.toymods.com member who goes by the alias "River" may have helped him.
"Kevin had me check over his E-brake and we went over all the details of his corner exit, just to be safe," reads one www.toymods.com message from "River."
But "River" disputes his role in Kevins death.
"No one in www.toymods.com encourages anyone else to street drift. www.toymods.com is pro-choice yo!" he wrote in an e-mail to MSN.
"86asp_yo" is another www.toymods.com member. He was the same age as Kevin when he joined the group last year and thinks dorifto groups like www.toymods.com actually keep people from drifting.
In fact, "86asp_yo" credits www.toymods.com with saving his life.
"If it weren't for it, I think the chances of me having started drifting would have been greater," he said. "Having a place where you can see how much of a bunch of tool-beaters most of the 86 fans are really opened my eyes, I promptly sold my AE86 and bought a Daewoo Lanos wif neons."
But Kevins dad thinks otherwise.
"That's not pro-choice," Macca Knowles said of the site. "That's brainwashing. And they are not being held responsible yo."
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Location:
Land of Oz
Registered:
June 2004
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Re: River
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Thu, 17 November 2005 06:38
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Hi,
Yeah, settle down chaps.
If you think that good old Toymods river would go around and assist people in killing themselves, then you obviously haven't been reading my posts.
Perhaps it's my dry sand-paper-rough wit and cool drollness in my words and sentences that may allude others to think differently to what I have written.
Besides, my "r" in river is a little "r". I wouldn't be that pretentious to use a big "R" in my nick.
seeyuzz
river
PS: See you on alt.rubberfetish
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Location:
Melbourne - NthSubs
Registered:
January 2004
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Re: River
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Thu, 17 November 2005 06:45
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so is this the real story about bubbles 
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I Supported Toymods
Location:
Casula
Registered:
January 2005
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Re: River
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Thu, 17 November 2005 20:44
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Dam river/River, I was going to ask you for some suggestions.
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Location:
Land of Oz
Registered:
June 2004
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Re: River
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Sat, 19 November 2005 06:30
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Hi,
| Hi-Ace wrote on Fri, 18 November 2005 07:44 |
Dam river/River, I was going to ask you for some suggestions.
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Not a problem, you old geezer. I've got a few suggestions!
seeyuzz
river
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I supported Toymods
Location:
Adelaide
Registered:
July 2004
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Re: River
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Tue, 22 November 2005 01:04
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| ke382TG wrote on Thu, 17 November 2005 10:48 |
This article however contains the real River:
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(MSN) Kevin Knowles seemed to have everything going for him.
A bubbly 19-year-old with loving parents and good friends, he was also a strong student and earned a Bonza Badge in year 12.
But everything changed one spring day two months ago, when Kevs parents, Macca and Shazza, received the following e-mail.
"Dear Mum, Dad, and Bazza, I will make this short as I know. It will be hard to deal with. If you haven't heard by now, I've started drifting in industrial estates in my AE86" the e-mail read.
Alone on a beautiful right hander, just kilometres from his caravan, Kevin methodically prepared and began his approach to the corner, where his use of the E-brake and feint drift action led to his death by leaving the road and wrapping himself around a light pole.
In doing so, he joined the roughly 4,000 people between the ages of 15 and 19 who suffer dorifto death each year, according to the RTA. Dorifto death is now the third leading cause of death among young people, the RTA reports.
But Kevins case has an unusual twist. He frequented an Internet Forum called www.toymods.com
Members of this news group trade advice on how to street drift, using code words like 'slide' and 'entry speed' and 'drift angle'. Kevin found this group nine weeks before he died, posting nearly one hundred messages detailing the specs of his eight-six and his plans of fitting a 4AGE.
"My chosen method is e-brake....I've stopped throttle induced powerslides," one of Kevins posts read.
Kevins father claims the Forum group gave him everything he needed to kill himself.
"The knowledge, the tools, their psychological encouragement. ... He was led to his death," Macca Knowles said.
Forum Groups like www.toymods.com work something like an online bulletin board. Anyone with a computer and some basic Internet knowledge can gain free access to thousands of messages about dorifto. And they can post their own messages.
An archived section of the site called "The Drift Methods File" contains a list of instructions, recommendations and tips on the best and worst ways to street drift.
Kevins dad believes one of those messages taught him how to remove the button on his rear seat that activates the fold down mechanism and use it on his handbrake. And he was horrified to learn that an older www.toymods.com member who goes by the alias "River" may have helped him.
"Kevin had me check over his E-brake and we went over all the details of his corner exit, just to be safe," reads one www.toymods.com message from "River."
But "River" disputes his role in Kevins death.
"No one in www.toymods.com encourages anyone else to street drift. www.toymods.com is pro-choice yo!" he wrote in an e-mail to MSN.
"86asp_yo" is another www.toymods.com member. He was the same age as Kevin when he joined the group last year and thinks dorifto groups like www.toymods.com actually keep people from drifting.
In fact, "86asp_yo" credits www.toymods.com with saving his life.
"If it weren't for it, I think the chances of me having started drifting would have been greater," he said. "Having a place where you can see how much of a bunch of tool-beaters most of the 86 fans are really opened my eyes, I promptly sold my AE86 and bought a Daewoo Lanos wif neons."
But Kevins dad thinks otherwise.
"That's not pro-choice," Macca Knowles said of the site. "That's brainwashing. And they are not being held responsible yo."
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GODDAMN IM WRECKED FROM THAT
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Location:
Land of Oz
Registered:
June 2004
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Re: River
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Tue, 22 November 2005 01:51
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Hi,
Yeah, it's pretty good, eh? If only ke382tg (and oldcorrollas for that matter) could only use their talents for good!
seeyuzz
river
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