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I supported Toymods
Location:
Adelaide
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May 2002
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 Sprinter
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Mon, 24 June 2002 15:32
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damn! this thread needs to be moved to tech: anyway;
I have been in/friend owns an AE85 Trueno "hachi go" as I bag him. (yes from initial_D.) It is no different to AE86: it now has 4AG, and Oz diff. (But guages slightly different(no oil pressure))
Anyway, being tech and all that,
AE85 never had an option of the rear swaybar I think. AE86 has rear swaybar as standard.
More curious than any of the AE85/AE86 talk is that Oz got 'Trueno Sprinter' tail lights not the ugly IMO Levin tail lights.
Back to more AE85/AE86 difference:
Some AE85 w/ 3A have a cable clutch and K50 gearbox, or at least my friend's did. I think the US AE85 SR5 has hydraulic clutch and T50 like Oz AE86, but no rear sway bar.
Toyota Australia picked the equipment level and drivetrain to meets is price range and target market. MR2 was the death knell I feel for the AE86 Twin Cam. If they didn't release them/ have them in the planning stage, then releasing the 4AG AE86 in mass production would have matched the soon to be released N12 Pulsar and aging Cordia. Pity they never released both, but red tape on import numbers would be a likely factor. Tho I fear the price of AE86 GT Apex. LSD optional and all that and it would be reaching $16-20K I guess around 1986. Though thinking more, Toyota may have never planned to keep the AE86 in production till '87: may have been a deciding factor as well.
I think it best said that Toyota Australia had two things on its mind when deciding on what to release: Bathurst, and a small sports coupe to match Nissan's EXA/Gazelle, Mitsubishi's scorpion/cordia/starion (as in late 83/early 84).
At the $12,000 sale price, it was more expensive than some of the others (and poor equipment as standard) but rode highly on Toyota's reputation of build quality and reliability. Then they raced it at bathurt to show it was a sport's car WITH reliability. They raced the Celica's until '84 where the TRD cars raced well, but beaten buy the Bob Holden Motorsport entries (using OZ delivered AE86 built using many TRD parts). First year released and they raced it at bathurst with factory support. (There is a GOOD chance i may be wrong on this point, but it is MY opinion)
I prefer to think of the Oz Sprinter as an AE85.5. Not quite AE86, but not an AE85. (Thankfully we didn't get AE85's. We'd be needing hyraulic clutch conversion: searching for 'late' T50: needing 'F' or 'T' diffs: and a 4AG) I doubt the Sprinter would still be as popular as it is today if it really was a AE85.
Jaz
Sorry for the essay, but a few things to say.
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4AGE Bellhousing (Sprinter)
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bloody_huge23 | Mon, 17 June 2002 09:01 |
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fOOZ86 | Mon, 17 June 2002 21:11 |
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._T_. | Mon, 17 June 2002 22:29 |
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Ribbo | Sat, 22 June 2002 07:08 |
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fergo308 | Sat, 22 June 2002 12:16 |
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Ribbo | Sat, 22 June 2002 14:44 |
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fOOZ86 | Sun, 23 June 2002 13:45 |
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fergo308 | Sun, 23 June 2002 20:56 |
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fOOZ86 | Mon, 24 June 2002 02:14 |
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bloody_huge23 | Mon, 24 June 2002 08:24 |
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fergo308 | Mon, 24 June 2002 09:02 |
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jazae86 | Mon, 24 June 2002 15:32 |
