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Re: modifying rotaries

Mon, 09 June 2003 23:26

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pro_ke wrote on Mon, 09 June 2003 23:35

because its essentially a comparison between a mazda engine and a toyota engine. the mazda engine won the award.

bmw motors have nothing to do with this conversation...

Pro KE, you are quite right. BMW motors per se have nothing to do with a 2JZGTE vs 20B 'discussion'. However, only a year or 2 ago, the S54 also won this 'prestigious' award. I don't think the awarders ever thought for a second that it would throw a leg out of bed when used in its intended fashion.

I am merely calling into question the validity of such an award by providing a recent example. I thought the logic (and provision of example) was fairly transparent.

Black Supra, go here.
Lots of great pics of holes in blocks, snapped rod bolts, spun bearings. Apparently there is an oil pressure issue, and BMW have issued a major callback.

I'm always interested in an educated discussion. Unfortunately, these things always descend into a mire of name-calling and spouting of urban myths.

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