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celicamad
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Re: 1jz into ra60? Tue, 10 June 2003 10:56 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
1ggte at best gives (i believe) about 200 rwhp i think thats what darren was getting anyway im sure someone can post the exact figure .so for toyota manual thats about 235 h.p @ flywheel

1jzgte good for 300 rwhp (auto) so thats about 375 hp @ flywheel
300 is with minor mods but 240 is as easy as an exhaust and 14 psi

Frank fair enough if nark has the engine 10 mm from the flywheel( minimum for engineering in NSW).Then yes the engine will sit about 20 -30 mm further .

now Believe it ot not a 2jz is longer and higher than a 1jz im told the lenghth is actaully in the timing case cover as is some height .but we are only talking 20 mm

sorry i think i didnt explain a few things properly

Oh and by the way im not pissed off or cranky or any of that shit .
im just trying to get my point across .when i re-read ny posts i sound really agro .well im not!! annoyed yes agro no .

i cant help but be sarcastic thats me Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy

SO anyway .i dont want to argue with anyone but discuss pro's and cons based on actual information and measurments etc not a wild guess Razz

O.k

yes the ta23 engine bay is a litle bigger but the differnces where only minor

I have actually done the conversion in to an Ra60 and yes a custom radiator was needed .as it was in the ta23

So in direct reffernce to the ra60 1j conversion

O.k so if you measure from the centre of the strut tower to the rear of the engine .then from the same point to the front .
approx 60% of the engine is in the forward half of the engine bay .ie forward of the front wheels

with the original engine only 50% was forward of centre .

THE TWO ENGINES WEIGH THE SAME THE ORIGINAL ENGINE AND THE 1JZ(YES WE WEIGHED THEM SIXWORKS CAN VERIFY THIS (he helped me weigh the 1jzgte)

however we where able to calculate that 12 kg of additional weight was added forward of the strut tower .

now as barry expliabed this is the critical point...forward of the strut tower he also said that less than 20 kg was neither here nor there ...BARRY JOHNSON CHASSIS ENGINEER i have his number you can ring him and argue with him if need be

so as i explained battery to boot bumper mod raditor . etc we saved 15 kg anyway .

now the a/c compressor would have weighed at least 4 or kg (im guessing) plus the condensor and plumbing etc. however we decided to forget this based on the fact that we had yet to fit Intercooler and plumbing

All i can tell you is this with the battery ,surge tank in boot and the Engine all fittted the front to rear weight split actually favoured the rear by a couple of percent more than factory.

even then barry suggested adding a little weight to the rear .And he was right traction was better and the car felt more confident

dont forget we seam welded and strengthened the crossmeber .this will have added a little more front rigidity as well

dont forget the 1j sits lower than the original engine

Remember the statement at hand
Quote:

1jz is expensive and kills handling


Yes the 1j is more expensive .
NO HANDLING IS NOT EFFECTED AT ALL !!!!THE CAR HANLDED BETTER
those that want to belive me can that that dont want to great

the information is here for those that are considering the same conversion .draw your own conclusions

sorry i dont have time to PROVE myself to others .
ive done it worked thats it

oh yeah i almost forgot Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy peace man !!! Laughing
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Read Message   1jz into ra60? RA60_CelicaSun, 08 June 2003 10:52
Read Message   Re: 1jz into ra60? IntensevilSun, 08 June 2003 11:11
Read Message   Re: 1jz into ra60? celicamadSun, 08 June 2003 12:31
Read Message   Re: 1jz into ra60? NarkMon, 09 June 2003 01:43
Read Message   Re: 1jz into ra60? RA60_CelicaMon, 09 June 2003 03:41
Read Message   Re: 1jz into ra60? IntensevilSun, 08 June 2003 13:43
Read Message   Re: 1jz into ra60? Mon, 09 June 2003 02:14
Read Message   Re: 1jz into ra60? NarkMon, 09 June 2003 02:49
Read Message   Re: 1jz into ra60? Mon, 09 June 2003 02:15
Read Message   Re: 1jz into ra60? gianttomatoMon, 09 June 2003 02:28
Read Message   Re: 1jz into ra60? celicamadMon, 09 June 2003 04:03
Read Message   Re: 1jz into ra60? RA60_CelicaMon, 09 June 2003 04:34
Read Message   Re: 1jz into ra60? NarkMon, 09 June 2003 10:12
Read Message   Re: 1jz into ra60? dravenMon, 09 June 2003 04:31
Read Message   Re: 1jz into ra60? justcallmefrankMon, 09 June 2003 09:57
Read Message   Re: 1jz into ra60? dravenMon, 09 June 2003 10:07
Read Message   Re: 1jz into ra60? justcallmefrankMon, 09 June 2003 10:09
Read Message   Re: 1jz into ra60? SkiDMaNMon, 09 June 2003 11:01
Read Message   Re: 1jz into ra60? celicamadMon, 09 June 2003 22:33
Read Message   Re: 1jz into ra60? justcallmefrankTue, 10 June 2003 00:48
Read Message   Re: 1jz into ra60? NorbieTue, 10 June 2003 00:48
Read Message   Re: 1jz into ra60? ed_ma61Tue, 10 June 2003 01:11
Read Message   Re: 1jz into ra60? RA60_CelicaTue, 10 June 2003 09:13
Read Message   Re: 1jz into ra60?  celicamadTue, 10 June 2003 10:56
Read Message   Re: 1jz into ra60? dravenTue, 10 June 2003 11:50
Read Message   Re: 1jz into ra60? RA60_CelicaTue, 10 June 2003 12:25
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