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Re: Capacity vs Cylinders Wed, 18 June 2003 05:38 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
fingers wrote on Wed, 18 June 2003 09:14

I would have thought that having six cylinders compared to four for a given size would make it smoother as you have two extra pistons firing.

Is that a valid comment?


definitely, and is what everyone is forgetting.
the power output of a motor is not constant, but is a pulsing curve with one pulse for each piston firing.

take an extreme example.
a 3L 4 cyl, compared to a 3L V10

the 4cyl will have two power pulses per revolution, and the V10 will have 5 pulses. so the V10 will have much smoother power delivery, and i think that the average torque (area under the curve of torque vs time) will be higher for the V10.

an analogy is single phase vs 3 phase electricity. liek comparing single cylinder vs 3 cylinder. (unfortunately it's like comparing different size engines tho)

if you look at a graph of the three suprimposed voltage curves for 3 phase, the average voltage is higher.. 415V vs 240V, and you have 3 times the amperage available...

i'm sure an elec engineer will be able to do the math as i'm a bit rusty, but i think that for a 3 phase circuit with same amperage going thru it, it will have higher power than a single phase with same amperage.

yes the mechanical losses will be higher, but not by much..

a direct example from the bike world for 1L motors(assuming similar development) a YZF-R1 (4cyl) has about 105Nm, where a VTR-SP1 has about 100Nm, so 5% less for same capacity. they have vry diferent torque curves too, with the R1 having torque higher in the rev range, and the SP1 having a wider and flatter, but lower rpm, torque curve.....

Cya, Stewart


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