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kingmick Forums Junkie Banned by his request Location: moved to tamworth Registered: July 2002	Re: TORQUE Tue, 24 June 2003 12:18 haha hope this helps! our race car used to have a 2.5 v6 that we twin turboed. it made 800hp or about 595kw on the engine dyno and could do this all day long as its a circuit track engine but everything starts to happen after about 4500rpm. with the 6 litre 350 chev nat-asp we make 660hp and 580fp at 3800rpm and it stays as a very flat curve to 7500rpm{rev to 8000rpm gearing.} on the track the 350chev is the much faster engine as the torque is there to get the car moving from low in the rev range. the twin turbo could be as quick if you spent mega dollars{or had a 10 speed gearbox} on development but we spent 140k+ getting it to be competitive so in the real would of street driving your better of with the most torque down low. drag racing everything is up top, so turbo cars can rev there tits off and be in there power band. as for gearing to give you an idea of how torque works with gearing i can use our racecar as an example. we use a hewland vgc transaxle gearbox and diff in one{sits at the back of the car} similar to the f1 cars. the tailshaft we run from the engine to the transaxle is about 30mm{solid} think TUFT steel as the is not as much torque on the tailshaft as in, say a sprinter tailshaft{dont think about horsepower here at all} as the sprinter has the gearbox bolted to the engine so the power is taken from the engine threw the gearbox which increases the torque or twisting force hence they have to be very strong and can run at high speed and the axles even stonger as the diff multiplys torque again. but with a transaxle setup the tailshaft doesnt have to be nearlly as strong hence our 30mm tailshaft. but our driveshafts are made out of MIRAGE steel the strongest steel you can get{it cost over $2000 for material to do, 2, 80cm long drive-shafts in solid 35mm plus the same again in machining and heat treating.} because they recieve both the gearbox and tailshaft torque in the one hit{besides getting in to the grip of the 12x17 slicks} sorry i dont have the time to get right into it but if you have a question just ask mick p.s a f1 car at 250km\h that weighs 1000kg at stand still will weigh over 2000kg depending on downforceof its wings. so torque keeps the weight{2000kg and rising with speed}accelerating at a quick pace. haha because of GEARING. [Updated on: Tue, 24 June 2003 12:32] [Report message to a moderator]

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	TORQUE	BAD22	Sat, 21 June 2003 04:43
	Re: TORQUE	oldcorollas	Sat, 21 June 2003 07:20
	Re: TORQUE	trent_kershaw	Sat, 21 June 2003 09:52
	Re: TORQUE	wilbo666	Sat, 21 June 2003 12:29
	Re: TORQUE	BAD22	Sat, 21 June 2003 13:06
	Re: TORQUE	TA22-3SGTE	Sat, 21 June 2003 13:20
	Re: TORQUE	gianttomato	Sun, 22 June 2003 02:18
	Re: TORQUE	rusty	Mon, 23 June 2003 19:37
	Re: TORQUE	BAD22	Tue, 24 June 2003 01:57
	Re: TORQUE	oldcorollas	Tue, 24 June 2003 07:17
	Re: TORQUE	rusty	Tue, 24 June 2003 08:33
	Re: TORQUE	oldcorollas	Tue, 24 June 2003 09:32
	Re: TORQUE	gianttomato	Tue, 24 June 2003 09:42
	Re: TORQUE	Gremlin	Thu, 26 June 2003 02:16
	Re: TORQUE	rusty	Tue, 24 June 2003 10:29
	Re: TORQUE	oldcorollas	Tue, 24 June 2003 11:12
	Re: TORQUE	gianttomato	Tue, 24 June 2003 11:46
	Re: TORQUE	oldcorollas	Tue, 24 June 2003 12:01
	Re: TORQUE	trent_kershaw	Tue, 24 June 2003 14:03
	Re: TORQUE	NO-18r	Sat, 21 June 2003 08:48
	Re: TORQUE	BAD22	Sat, 21 June 2003 08:49
	Re: TORQUE	manipulate	Sat, 21 June 2003 08:51
	Re: TORQUE	manipulate	Sat, 21 June 2003 13:10
	Re: TORQUE	BAD22	Sat, 21 June 2003 13:12
	Re: TORQUE	cam_RA40	Sat, 21 June 2003 23:17
	Re: TORQUE	JDM hachi	Sat, 21 June 2003 22:52
	Re: TORQUE	manipulate	Sun, 22 June 2003 01:55
	Re: TORQUE	charliechalk	Sun, 22 June 2003 11:26
	Re: TORQUE	BAD22	Sun, 22 June 2003 15:58
	Re: TORQUE	gianttomato	Mon, 23 June 2003 01:05
	Re: TORQUE	charliechalk	Mon, 23 June 2003 08:06
	Re: TORQUE	BAD22	Mon, 23 June 2003 10:00
	Re: TORQUE	Super Jamie	Tue, 24 June 2003 11:04
	Re: TORQUE	kingmick	Tue, 24 June 2003 12:18
	Re: TORQUE	THE WITZL	Tue, 24 June 2003 12:27
	Re: TORQUE	trent_kershaw	Tue, 24 June 2003 12:44
	Re: TORQUE	THE WITZL	Tue, 24 June 2003 13:06
	Re: TORQUE	rusty	Tue, 24 June 2003 16:35
	Re: TORQUE	juzzo84	Tue, 24 June 2003 21:08
	Re: TORQUE	boudan	Tue, 24 June 2003 22:49
	Re: TORQUE	Super Jamie	Wed, 25 June 2003 07:26
	Re: TORQUE and shite stirring	oldcorollas	Wed, 25 June 2003 12:27
	Re: TORQUE and shite stirring	oldcorollas	Wed, 25 June 2003 12:36
	Re: TORQUE	boudan	Thu, 26 June 2003 00:37
	Re: TORQUE	bayka	Wed, 25 June 2003 17:41
	Re: TORQUE	Norbie	Wed, 25 June 2003 22:37
	Re: TORQUE	dar_sbb	Thu, 26 June 2003 01:58
	Re: TORQUE	bayka	Thu, 26 June 2003 05:49
	Re: flat TORQUE curves	oldcorollas	Thu, 26 June 2003 06:23
	Re: flat TORQUE curves	Nark	Thu, 26 June 2003 06:45
	Re: flat TORQUE curves	oldcorollas	Thu, 26 June 2003 07:03

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