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Re: TORQUE and shite stirring Wed, 25 June 2003 12:27 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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man i don't think torque is better than power, i don't think power is better than torque, in fact i couldn't care less Very Happy.

The only "theory" i have any 'sentiment' for is 'increasing efficiency', and i will extoll the virtues of that theory until i die Evil or Very Mad
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cant you see these are conflicting sentiments

umm no i don't have any fuzzy feelings toward either... i don;t think they are conflicting either. it's like saying you can't like chocolate ice-cream because you don't like strawberry. you CAN like both!
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if you think torque is more important, fine. youre wrong, but thats less stupid than thinking both the above are right simultaneously

fcol, there is no right or wrong, both power and torque are good and in different circumstances, more or less important, but it depends on which side of the equation you look at it,
fwiw, i bet my motor is smaller than yours Razz Cool so who's got more torque?

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you have an obsession with torque, when torque is only a component of power, the other part being the rate it is applied, or rpm. i said at the beginning that power is more important than torque, because obviously if you have the one, you have the other. yet you interjected to the contrary (above). that has been my disagreement with you from the start, and continues to be.

HA HA AH HA Very Happy LOL..... without torque, you got no power. without motion you have no power. but torque is still there, moving or not. can ya say headbolts?
this is such funny shit Smile. we are both arguing EXACTLY the same point, and then saying that either torque or power is important. you can use the same equations to prove both arguments Very Happy the only difference is that power has a time component and torque doesn't. when it comes down to it, neither torque or power are important. what is important is the force at the road and the resulting acceleration. (and also efficiency and driveability, but that's another issue Wink )

what i think is so funny, and why i responded to you in the first place is because you are adamant that power is the only important thing and that torque is not important. that's exactly the opposite idea that was espoused in that rotary thread, where everyone bitched and moaned because rotaries only have power and no torque Wink i read that one with much mirth, but to see the rotary point of view come out again in another thread is quite amusing Very Happy and also that the people who bagged rotaries, for not having torque, are also not jumping in on this..... actually they are prolly having too much fun watching Laughing

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lets not meander from the topic. the only logical interpretation of the above is that you think torque is more important than power,


what? there was a topic? oh yeah, explain torque in a simple manner
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for example if you have 1 kilogram at the end of a 1 metre stick held out horizontally, to stop it from turning downwards the turning force you have to supply is the mass x gravity x distance
so here 1x9.8x1 = 9.8Nm


the only logical interpretation is that i'm shit-stirring you, and at the same time trying to dispel the myth that power is the be-all and end-all. what do i think? i think all motors should rev to 9000+rpm and have close to 100% efficiency like the Honduh S2000 motor, and 1L bike engines. i like efficiency and high revs, not because of power and torque, but because i like power sliding around a corner at 8000rpm in my 1969 corolla!!!!! Twisted Evil Twisted Evil Twisted Evil whooosh!!!!!!!

Very Happy

heh heh, i think this is the first thread i ever hijacked.. and what fun it has been. i bid you adieu.
Cya at DD7, Stewart
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