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oldcorollas
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Re: KE30 4AGZE or CA18DET

Wed, 02 July 2003 02:58

p2katwork,
you REALLY need to speak to an engineer or at least a shop to get more ideas of what is required to get it legal.

for starters, running 13's will require a decent amount of power, and you will need brakes that are sufficient to stop the car with that power. a good engineer will tell you what you need to do.

also, if you plan 13's, you will need a strong diff (since you will launch it hard) so bite the bullet and get a shortened hilux LSD diff. expect at lest a grand for that.

if you turbo an NA motor, you should drop the compression, especially if you want to run big numbers. if you want to turbo a 4AG, cheapest way is to start with 4AGZE block as it has low compression already.
alternatively, start with an already turboed motor.... tho you may still haev to decrease compression for higher boost..

for what you want, you'll need aftermarket computer, high and low pressure fuel pumps for the EFI, probably new fuel lines too, custom engine and gearbox mounts, radiator that's bigger than the KE30 one, LARGE brakes etc... the list goes on and on.

remember what you are trying to do, make an old car run fast. you need to have parts that can handle the extra power reliably, and also the suspension and brakes so you don't kill yourself or any unlucky bystanders.

fwiw, the engine price is not that much compared to the overall conversion cost. $5k is reasonable IF you do most of it yourself. to do 13's, you will need to do a fair bit of work on the motor (at least injectors and turbo) and other stuff like getting suspension right for racing etc, will set you back another grand or two...

although a conversion is a good way to learn about stuff, a better way may be to rebuild a K or datto A motor so you have more of an idea of what is involved.. go hang around a decent shop or meet up with ppl who have done conversions and ask them what is involved (i know, that's what you are doing here)..

not trying to be a pain, but it sounds like you need to do some more grass roots work... go have a look at your car (or anyones really), imagine you've ripped out the motor, gearbox, diff, fuel system, cooling system and brakes, and then imagine that you have to put it all back in again, but bigger to cope with the bigger motor... that is how you have to design it and think about it, because that is what you are doing!!!

dyno day is this sunday, and would be an awesome oppurtunity to talk to guys that have done conversions to find out what's involved....

good luck Smile

Cya, Stewart

p2katwork wrote on Wed, 02 July 2003 12:21

sideshow:
about the diff; do you have any suggestions on what may bolt in to improve it, or is it a hilux job?
when is the dyno day i might come along if nobody minds
mount the surge tank in the boot. will need a fuel pump and pre pump aswell. extra fuel lines.
is this needed for the 4agze?
are you using aftermarker ones? or 2nd hand ones?
what are your thoughts on a plain 4age conversion and then turbo charging it a later date?
if so which 4age engine would i use and would everything else you have said remain the same?
im thinking this as the 4agze engines dont go cheaply compared to a 4age or a CA18DET for that matter..

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