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biased99 Forums Junkie Registered: May 2002	Re: 7mge vs 7mgte Sat, 05 July 2003 08:55 ed_ma61 wrote on Fri, 04 July 2003 18:58 7M-Brisbane wrote on Fri, 04 July 2003 17:55 You clearly have very little understanding of... anything. and for the record mr 7M-Brisbane, noone is saying NA is BETTER than forced induction, no-one is saying turbo cars are 'bad';nor is ANYONE saying that an NA car will beat a turbo setup down the highway (where you like pulling your dick, apparently)... Well...Not exactly. My love of the 1UZ is well-known. What is, perhaps, less-well known is why I put one in the Cressida rather than, say a 1/2JZ. The reason? Simply under-stressed, bullet-proof reliability. Adding Turbos does two things: 1) Adds serious HP to most applications 2) Also adds the worry of a turbo "letting go" and ruining your engine. ...and for those about to say "My turboed *insert engine here* will s&*t on a 1UZ, let me say this: Take one 1UZ. Add proper twin throttle-body setup. Add proper extractor/exhaust system. Add proper CAI. Add after-market engine management (in my case, delete this option, as I already have). What do you have? About 400HP (300-odd at the wheels), in a bullet-proof (stock-internals) NA machine. Yes, you'll get better performance in a high-boost turbo application...But will you run all day (say, for example, in the heat of the Top End - where there are no speed limits - but where it's also 32 degrees air temp), while I'm doing so? *ends rant - and stands back for resultant shit-fight!* [Report message to a moderator]

	Subject	Poster	Date
	7mge vs 7mgte	STR8 2.8	Tue, 01 July 2003 11:25
	Re: 7mge vs 7mgte	gianttomato	Tue, 01 July 2003 11:52
	Re: 7mge vs 7mgte	ed_ma61	Tue, 01 July 2003 11:58
	Re: 7mge vs 7mgte	STR8 2.8	Tue, 01 July 2003 12:24
	Re: 7mge vs 7mgte	gianttomato	Tue, 01 July 2003 12:30
	Re: 7mge vs 7mgte	draven	Tue, 01 July 2003 12:29
	Re: 7mge vs 7mgte	justcallmefrank	Wed, 02 July 2003 00:40
	Re: 7mge vs 7mgte	Stefan	Fri, 04 July 2003 06:16
	Re: 7mge vs 7mgte	ed_ma61	Fri, 04 July 2003 06:24
	Re: 7mge vs 7mgte	Stefan	Fri, 04 July 2003 06:30
	Re: 7mge vs 7mgte	Norbie	Fri, 04 July 2003 07:29
	Re: 7mge vs 7mgte	7M-Brisbane	Fri, 04 July 2003 07:55
	Re: 7mge vs 7mgte	gianttomato	Fri, 04 July 2003 08:41
	Re: 7mge vs 7mgte	ed_ma61	Fri, 04 July 2003 08:58
	Re: 7mge vs 7mgte	Mazda626	Fri, 04 July 2003 11:37
	Re: 7mge vs 7mgte	biased99	Sat, 05 July 2003 08:55
	Re: 7mge vs 7mgte	Norbie	Tue, 08 July 2003 02:21
	Re: 7mge vs 7mgte	biased99	Tue, 08 July 2003 03:41
	Re: 7mge vs 7mgte	Norbie	Tue, 08 July 2003 05:18
	Re: 7mge vs 7mgte	biased99	Tue, 08 July 2003 05:45
	Re: 7mge vs 7mgte	Mx73_LuXoBarge	Tue, 08 July 2003 05:45
	Re: 7mge vs 7mgte	gianttomato	Tue, 08 July 2003 06:05
	Re: 7mge vs 7mgte	biased99	Tue, 08 July 2003 06:34
	Re: 7mge vs 7mgte	gianttomato	Tue, 08 July 2003 10:01
	Re: 7mge vs 7mgte	biased99	Tue, 08 July 2003 22:27
	Re: 7mge vs 7mgte	gianttomato	Wed, 09 July 2003 00:10
	Re: 7mge vs 7mgte	ed_ma61	Wed, 02 July 2003 00:52
	Re: 7mge vs 7mgte	gianttomato	Wed, 02 July 2003 01:02
	Re: 7mge vs 7mgte	ed_ma61	Wed, 02 July 2003 01:14
	Re: 7mge vs 7mgte	Norbie	Wed, 02 July 2003 11:28
	Re: 7mge vs 7mgte	ed_ma61	Wed, 02 July 2003 12:17
	Re: 7mge vs 7mgte	7M-Brisbane	Wed, 02 July 2003 12:41
	Re: 7mge vs 7mgte	ed_ma61	Wed, 02 July 2003 14:35
	Re: 7mge vs 7mgte	Mazda626	Wed, 02 July 2003 16:28
	Re: 7mge vs 7mgte	gianttomato	Wed, 02 July 2003 22:36
	Re: 7mge vs 7mgte	biased99	Thu, 03 July 2003 00:05
	Re: 7mge vs 7mgte	Mazda626	Thu, 03 July 2003 14:11
	Re: 7mge vs 7mgte	ed_ma61	Fri, 04 July 2003 01:24
	Re: 7mge vs 7mgte	gianttomato	Fri, 04 July 2003 01:54
	Re: 7mge vs 7mgte	rob_RA40	Thu, 03 July 2003 22:00
	Re: 7mge vs 7mgte	gianttomato	Fri, 11 July 2003 12:47
	Re: 7mge vs 7mgte	justcallmefrank	Thu, 03 July 2003 02:17
	Re: 7mge vs 7mgte	biased99	Thu, 03 July 2003 05:14
	Re: 7mge vs 7mgte	turbovan	Fri, 04 July 2003 00:31
	Re: 7mge vs 7mgte	gold28	Fri, 04 July 2003 03:22
	Re: 7mge vs 7mgte	ed_ma61	Fri, 04 July 2003 05:39
	Re: 7mge vs 7mgte	Norbie	Fri, 04 July 2003 03:32
	Re: 7mge vs 7mgte	7M-Brisbane	Fri, 04 July 2003 07:47
	Re: 7mge vs 7mgte	rob_RA40	Fri, 04 July 2003 13:25
	Re: 7mge vs 7mgte	Norbie	Fri, 04 July 2003 14:38
	Re: 7mge vs 7mgte	gianttomato	Fri, 04 July 2003 23:48
	Re: 7mge vs 7mgte	Stefan	Sat, 05 July 2003 03:40
	Re: 7mge vs 7mgte	Billy-Mason PI	Wed, 09 July 2003 03:22
	Re: 7mge vs 7mgte	justcallmefrank	Sat, 05 July 2003 10:11
	Re: 7mge vs 7mgte	TheStitt	Tue, 08 July 2003 00:16
	Re: 7mge vs 7mgte	ed_ma61	Tue, 08 July 2003 00:25
	Re: 7mge vs 7mgte	Allan	Wed, 09 July 2003 07:33
	Re: 7mge vs 7mgte	Mazda626	Wed, 09 July 2003 13:28
	Re: 7mge vs 7mgte	ed_ma61	Wed, 09 July 2003 13:32
	Re: 7mge vs 7mgte	Shteeve	Thu, 10 July 2003 04:24
	Re: 7mge vs 7mgte	rob_RA40	Thu, 10 July 2003 04:29
	Re: 7mge vs 7mgte	justcallmefrank	Wed, 09 July 2003 07:44
	Re: 7mge vs 7mgte	gianttomato	Wed, 09 July 2003 07:47
	Re: 7mge vs 7mgte	ed_ma61	Wed, 09 July 2003 07:49
	Re: 7mge vs 7mgte	rob_RA40	Wed, 09 July 2003 07:51
	Re: 7mge vs 7mgte	ed_ma61	Wed, 09 July 2003 07:53
	Re: 7mge vs 7mgte	justcallmefrank	Wed, 09 July 2003 07:55
	Re: 7mge vs 7mgte	rob_RA40	Wed, 09 July 2003 07:57
	Re: 7mge vs 7mgte	justcallmefrank	Wed, 09 July 2003 08:00
	Re: 7mge vs 7mgte	humble	Wed, 09 July 2003 08:09
	Re: 7mge vs 7mgte	ed_ma61	Wed, 09 July 2003 08:13
	Re: 7mge vs 7mgte	justcallmefrank	Wed, 09 July 2003 08:14
	Re: 7mge vs 7mgte	Allan	Wed, 09 July 2003 08:45
	Re: 7mge vs 7mgte	ed_ma61	Wed, 09 July 2003 13:16
	Re: 7mge vs 7mgte	justcallmefrank	Thu, 10 July 2003 04:27
	Re: 7mge vs 7mgte	ed_ma61	Thu, 10 July 2003 05:18
	Re: 7mge vs 7mgte	rob_RA40	Thu, 10 July 2003 05:20
	Re: 7mge vs 7mgte	ed_ma61	Thu, 10 July 2003 05:25
	Re: 7mge vs 7mgte	rob_RA40	Thu, 10 July 2003 05:31
	Re: 7mge vs 7mgte	ed_ma61	Thu, 10 July 2003 05:36
	Re: 7mge vs 7mgte	oldcorollas	Thu, 10 July 2003 05:49
	Re: 7mge vs 7mgte	rob_RA40	Thu, 10 July 2003 05:46
	Re: 7mge vs 7mgte	ed_ma61	Thu, 10 July 2003 05:49
	Re: 7mge vs 7mgte	Norbie	Thu, 10 July 2003 12:33
	Re: 7mge vs 7mgte	oldcorollas	Thu, 10 July 2003 12:42
	Re: 7mge vs 7mgte	Norbie	Thu, 10 July 2003 12:48
	Re: 7mge vs 7mgte	ed_ma61	Thu, 10 July 2003 15:23
	Re: 7mge vs 7mgte	Norbie	Thu, 10 July 2003 23:54
	Re: 7mge vs 7mgte	hydro	Fri, 11 July 2003 04:37
	Re: 7mge vs 7mgte	Mazda626	Fri, 11 July 2003 12:13
	Re: 7mge vs 7mgte	Mazda626	Fri, 11 July 2003 12:23
	Re: 7mge vs 7mgte	hydro	Fri, 11 July 2003 13:10
	Re: 7mge vs 7mgte	rob_RA40	Fri, 11 July 2003 04:42
	Re: 7mge vs 7mgte	hydro	Fri, 11 July 2003 05:04
	Re: 7mge vs 7mgte	Mazda626	Fri, 11 July 2003 13:17
	Re: 7mge vs 7mgte	Mazda626	Fri, 11 July 2003 13:26
	Re: 7mge vs 7mgte	Allan	Sat, 12 July 2003 03:25
	Re: 7mge vs 7mgte	rob_RA40	Sat, 12 July 2003 04:35
	Re: 7mge vs 7mgte	speakafreaka	Sat, 12 July 2003 05:55
	Re: 7mge vs 7mgte	need_boost	Sat, 12 July 2003 07:28
	Re: 7mge vs 7mgte	ed_ma61	Sat, 12 July 2003 07:44
	Re: 7mge vs 7mgte	Norbie	Sun, 13 July 2003 06:18
	Re: 7mge vs 7mgte	Allan	Sat, 19 July 2003 09:53
	Re: 7mge vs 7mgte	speakafreaka	Sun, 20 July 2003 13:34

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