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Joshstix Forums Junkie Toymods Vice President Location: Sydney Registered: May 2002	Re: Dyno Day 7 - Results Thu, 10 July 2003 01:47 MR. 2 wrote on Wed, 09 July 2003 12:57 now u are comparing n/a v8s to forced induction 4cyls.... i could have told u that the 4cyl turbo creams the v8 and for the money a turbo will win i know this but a 6 cyl or v8 turbo in compariuson to a 4cylk turbo with the sames mpods are u telling me that the 4cyl will have more power.... ????????? thats why i said 6 + 8 F/i 6 + 8 N/A Don't worry the board looks at this every dyno day. We take a look at what cars come, what cars our members own and how we can split them up most evenly. The problem is that number of cylinders has very little to do with power output. I think we'd have just as many people kicking up a stink if we run the classes you listed. Lets take the 6 + 8 F/i class for example. If you put a 1G-GTE with a bleed valve up against a 2JZ-GTE with a bleed valve the result will be ~130-150KW against ~220-230KW. In the 6 + 8 N/A class we could have a 1G-GE making around 50KW competing against a 1UZ-FE making at least 130KW. I'm not trying to say your wrong more highlight how hard it is for us to come up with classes that keep the majority of people happy. In an ideal world there would be a class for each capacity increment, so a 1600 trophy and 1800 trophy etc. However this isn't feasable. One thing I think could be worth looking into is a highest specific output trophy, so the person with the highest horsepower per litre wins. This is a little hard to police though if people make internal mods that change capacity of the engine. [Report message to a moderator]

	Subject	Poster	Date
	Dyno Day 7 - Results	thetoyman75	Sun, 06 July 2003 14:08
	Re: Dyno Day 7 - Results	DiZ_	Sun, 06 July 2003 14:29
	Re: Dyno Day 7 - Heads Up	thetoyman75	Sun, 06 July 2003 14:30
	Re: Dyno Day 7 - Results	thunderbird1	Sun, 06 July 2003 16:26
	Re: Dyno Day 7 - Results	white83supra	Sun, 06 July 2003 19:57
	Re: Dyno Day 7 - Results	Draza	Sun, 06 July 2003 20:43
	Re: Dyno Day 7 - Results	4x420v	Sun, 06 July 2003 23:16
	Re: Dyno Day 7 - Results	Joshstix	Mon, 07 July 2003 03:47
	Re: Dyno Day 7 - Results	Krupt	Mon, 07 July 2003 03:36
	Re: Dyno Day 7 - Results	KOFFEE-BLACK	Mon, 07 July 2003 03:46
	Re: Dyno Day 7 - Results	draven	Sun, 06 July 2003 23:30
	Re: Dyno Day 7 - Results	GEE120	Mon, 07 July 2003 00:38
	Re: Dyno Day 7 - Results	RAV-GT4	Mon, 07 July 2003 13:51
	Re: Dyno Day 7 - Results	Ribbo	Mon, 07 July 2003 00:18
	Re: Dyno Day 7 - Results	draven	Mon, 07 July 2003 00:44
	Re: Dyno Day 7 - Results	TurboRA28	Mon, 07 July 2003 00:30
	Re: Dyno Day 7 - Results	SupraPete	Mon, 07 July 2003 02:23
	Re: Dyno Day 7 - Results	4x420v	Mon, 07 July 2003 02:31
	Re: Dyno Day 7 - Results	draven	Mon, 07 July 2003 03:18
	Re: Dyno Day 7 - Results	SupraPete	Mon, 07 July 2003 02:25
	Re: Dyno Day 7 - Results	rvrolla	Mon, 07 July 2003 02:38
	Re: Dyno Day 7 - Results	thunderbird1	Mon, 07 July 2003 02:43
	Re: Dyno Day 7 - Results	4x420v	Mon, 07 July 2003 02:54
	Re: Dyno Day 7 - Results	GEE120	Mon, 07 July 2003 04:49
	Re: Dyno Day 7 - Results	KOFFEE-BLACK	Mon, 07 July 2003 02:50
	Re: Dyno Day 7 - Results	SupraPete	Mon, 07 July 2003 03:12
	Re: Dyno Day 7 - Results	Joshstix	Mon, 07 July 2003 03:39
	Re: Dyno Day 7 - Results	MR. 2	Mon, 07 July 2003 02:57
	Re: Dyno Day 7 - Results	DiZ_	Mon, 07 July 2003 03:09
	Re: Dyno Day 7 - Results	Norbie	Mon, 07 July 2003 23:41
	Re: Dyno Day 7 - Results	SupraPete	Mon, 07 July 2003 23:59
	Re: Dyno Day 7 - Results	Classique71	Tue, 08 July 2003 08:22
	Re: Dyno Day 7 - Results	celicamad	Tue, 08 July 2003 09:22
	Re: Dyno Day 7 - Results	YelloRolla	Tue, 08 July 2003 09:35
	Re: Dyno Day 7 - Results	STR8 2.8	Tue, 08 July 2003 09:52
	Re: Dyno Day 7 - Results	RobST162	Tue, 08 July 2003 09:59
	Re: Dyno Day 7 - Results	STR8 2.8	Tue, 08 July 2003 10:00
	Re: Dyno Day 7 - Results	Norbie	Wed, 09 July 2003 03:16
	Re: Dyno Day 7 - Results	STR8 2.8	Wed, 09 July 2003 06:48
	Re: Dyno Day 7 - Results	draven	Wed, 09 July 2003 06:49
	Re: Dyno Day 7 - Results	STR8 2.8	Wed, 09 July 2003 06:50
	Re: Dyno Day 7 - Results	draven	Wed, 09 July 2003 07:13
	Re: Dyno Day 7 - Results	STR8 2.8	Wed, 09 July 2003 08:38
	Re: Dyno Day 7 - Results	Joshstix	Tue, 08 July 2003 01:58
	Re: Dyno Day 7 - Results	rob_RA40	Mon, 07 July 2003 03:20
	Re: Dyno Day 7 - Results	ido09s	Mon, 07 July 2003 03:28
	Re: Dyno Day 7 - Results	thunderbird1	Mon, 07 July 2003 03:33
	Re: Dyno Day 7 - Results	gold28	Mon, 07 July 2003 03:35
	Re: Dyno Day 7 - Results	thunderbird1	Mon, 07 July 2003 03:40
	Re: Dyno Day 7 - Results	KOFFEE-BLACK	Mon, 07 July 2003 03:49
	Re: Dyno Day 7 - Results	Classique71	Mon, 07 July 2003 04:21
	Re: Dyno Day 7 - Results	ido09s	Mon, 07 July 2003 04:33
	Re: Dyno Day 7 - Results	KOFFEE-BLACK	Mon, 07 July 2003 05:05
	Re: Dyno Day 7 - Results	EMP-2TG	Mon, 07 July 2003 04:45
	Re: Dyno Day 7 - Results	thunderbird1	Mon, 07 July 2003 04:47
	Re: Dyno Day 7 - Results	Sam	Mon, 07 July 2003 05:30
	Re: Dyno Day 7 - Results	thunderbird1	Mon, 07 July 2003 06:26
	Re: Dyno Day 7 - Results	draven	Mon, 07 July 2003 07:38
	Re: Dyno Day 7 - Results	rvrolla	Tue, 08 July 2003 03:24
	Re: Dyno Day 7 - Results	ke382TG	Mon, 07 July 2003 06:45
	Re: Dyno Day 7 - Results	thunderbird1	Mon, 07 July 2003 06:53
	Re: Dyno Day 7 - Results	turbovan	Mon, 07 July 2003 07:08
	Re: Dyno Day 7 - Results	RobST162	Mon, 07 July 2003 07:47
	Re: Dyno Day 7 - Results	turbovan	Mon, 07 July 2003 07:46
	Re: Dyno Day 7 - Results	THE WITZL	Mon, 07 July 2003 07:53
	Re: Dyno Day 7 - Results	speakafreaka	Mon, 07 July 2003 08:46
	Re: Dyno Day 7 - Results	draven	Mon, 07 July 2003 08:50
	Re: Dyno Day 7 - Results	Soarer	Tue, 08 July 2003 05:25
	Re: Dyno Day 7 - Results	MR PLOW	Mon, 07 July 2003 10:48
	Re: Dyno Day 7 - Results	flapps	Mon, 07 July 2003 11:09
	Re: Dyno Day 7 - Results	Rolla Boy	Mon, 07 July 2003 11:28
	Re: Dyno Day 7 - Results	J.E.M	Mon, 07 July 2003 12:26
	Re: Dyno Day 7 - Results	J.E.M	Mon, 07 July 2003 12:29
	Re: Dyno Day 7 - Results	thetoyman75	Mon, 07 July 2003 13:06
	Re: Dyno Day 7 - Results	CamryMan	Thu, 10 July 2003 07:45
	Re: Dyno Day 7 - Results	thunderbird1	Mon, 07 July 2003 14:32
	Re: Dyno Day 7 - Results	gold28	Tue, 08 July 2003 00:25
	Re: Dyno Day 7 - Results	YelloRolla	Tue, 08 July 2003 03:38
	Re: Dyno Day 7 - Results	J.E.M	Tue, 08 July 2003 05:21
	Re: Dyno Day 7 - Results	YelloRolla	Tue, 08 July 2003 05:28
	Re: Dyno Day 7 - Results	YelloRolla	Tue, 08 July 2003 05:35
	Re: Dyno Day 7 - Results	thunderbird1	Tue, 08 July 2003 05:37
	Re: Dyno Day 7 - Results	YelloRolla	Tue, 08 July 2003 05:56
	Re: Dyno Day 7 - Results	THE WITZL	Tue, 08 July 2003 06:41
	Re: Dyno Day 7 - Results	THE WITZL	Tue, 08 July 2003 11:48
	Re: Dyno Day 7 - Results	thetoyman75	Tue, 08 July 2003 12:32
	Re: Dyno Day 7 - Results	Bugman	Tue, 08 July 2003 12:21
	Re: Dyno Day 7 - Results	TE72_Turbo	Tue, 08 July 2003 12:55
	Re: Dyno Day 7 - Results	DavGT4	Tue, 08 July 2003 13:08
	Re: Dyno Day 7 - Results	Classique71	Wed, 09 July 2003 09:01
	Re: Dyno Day 7 - Results	MR. 2	Tue, 08 July 2003 23:04
	Re: Dyno Day 7 - Results	RobST162	Tue, 08 July 2003 23:54
	Re: Dyno Day 7 - Results	draven	Wed, 09 July 2003 05:22
	Re: Dyno Day 7 - Results	SupraPete	Wed, 09 July 2003 00:07
	Re: Dyno Day 7 - Results	RobST162	Wed, 09 July 2003 00:15
	Re: Dyno Day 7 - Results	FLU77R	Wed, 16 July 2003 04:14
	Re: Dyno Day 7 - Results	gold28	Wed, 09 July 2003 00:15
	Re: Dyno Day 7 - Results	SupraPete	Wed, 09 July 2003 00:29
	Re: Dyno Day 7 - Results	MR. 2	Wed, 09 July 2003 00:30
	Re: Dyno Day 7 - Results	SupraPete	Wed, 09 July 2003 01:24
	Re: Dyno Day 7 - Results	THE WITZL	Wed, 09 July 2003 02:54
	Re: Dyno Day 7 - Results	MR. 2	Wed, 09 July 2003 02:57
	Re: Dyno Day 7 - Results	Joshstix	Thu, 10 July 2003 01:47
	Re: Dyno Day 7 - Results	MR. 2	Wed, 09 July 2003 03:08
	Re: Dyno Day 7 - Results	Puffy	Thu, 10 July 2003 06:55
	Re: Dyno Day 7 - Results	-blown20v-	Thu, 10 July 2003 08:52
	Re: Dyno Day 7 - Results	RAV-GT4	Thu, 10 July 2003 18:35
	Re: Dyno Day 7 - Results	Tony	Sun, 13 July 2003 13:51
	Re: Dyno Day 7 - Results	GEE120	Sun, 13 July 2003 23:26
	Re: Dyno Day 7 - Results	thunderbird1	Mon, 14 July 2003 04:15
	Re: Dyno Day 7 - Results	celicamad	Mon, 14 July 2003 10:54
	Re: Dyno Day 7 - Results	speakafreaka	Mon, 14 July 2003 11:20
	Re: Dyno Day 7 - Results	irwige	Mon, 14 July 2003 15:33
	Re: Dyno Day 7 - Results	RAV-GT4	Tue, 15 July 2003 07:14
	Re: Dyno Day 7 - Results	Classique71	Tue, 15 July 2003 12:14
	Re: Dyno Day 7 - Results	SUPRA MAN	Sat, 19 July 2003 06:14
	Re: Dyno Day 7 - Results	thunderbird1	Sat, 19 July 2003 17:50
	Re: Dyno Day 7 - Results	Allan	Wed, 23 July 2003 11:55
	Re: Dyno Day 7 - Results	turbovan	Wed, 23 July 2003 23:25
	Re: Dyno Day 7 - Results	Nark	Thu, 24 July 2003 08:01
	Re: Dyno Day 7 - Results	SUPRA MAN	Sun, 27 July 2003 15:50
	Re: Dyno Day 7 - Results	Nark	Mon, 28 July 2003 01:37
	Re: Dyno Day 7 - Results	speakafreaka	Sun, 20 July 2003 13:34
	Re: Dyno Day 7 - Results	DannyGT4	Wed, 23 July 2003 01:54
	Re: Dyno Day 7 - Results	Allan	Wed, 23 July 2003 10:10
	Re: Dyno Day 7 - Results	draven	Sat, 19 July 2003 07:57
	Re: Dyno Day 7 - Results	SUPRA MAN	Sat, 19 July 2003 08:11
	Re: Dyno Day 7 - Results	draven	Sat, 19 July 2003 08:12
	Re: Dyno Day 7 - Results	SUPRA MAN	Sat, 19 July 2003 08:17
	Re: Dyno Day 7 - Results	draven	Sat, 19 July 2003 08:18
	Re: Dyno Day 7 - Results	SUPRA MAN	Sat, 19 July 2003 08:22
	Re: Dyno Day 7 - Results	turbovan	Sat, 19 July 2003 11:38
	Re: Dyno Day 7 - Results	draven	Sat, 19 July 2003 12:05
	Re: Dyno Day 7 - Results	turbovan	Sat, 19 July 2003 12:12
	Re: Dyno Day 7 - Results	draven	Sun, 20 July 2003 02:18
	Re: Dyno Day 7 - Results	turbovan	Sat, 19 July 2003 21:54
	Re: Dyno Day 7 - Results	thunderbird1	Sat, 26 July 2003 07:45
	Re: Dyno Day 7 - Results	draven	Sun, 27 July 2003 04:44
	Re: Dyno Day 7 - Results	Classique71	Sun, 27 July 2003 04:51
	Re: Dyno Day 7 - Results	draven	Sun, 27 July 2003 04:54
	Re: Dyno Day 7 - Results	Classique71	Sun, 27 July 2003 05:01
	Re: Dyno Day 7 - Results	draven	Sun, 27 July 2003 05:04
	Re: Dyno Day 7 - Results	Classique71	Sun, 27 July 2003 05:11
	Re: Dyno Day 7 - Results	Norbie	Sun, 27 July 2003 05:19
	Re: Dyno Day 7 - Results	Norbie	Sun, 27 July 2003 23:40

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