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icon13.gif  Re: anyone ever had "cryogenic" treated parts?? Sat, 19 July 2003 01:23 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
it's been a while since i studied science but i think the freezing thing's about as good as Arnie's acting skills as Mr Freeze in the Batman movie - its bullshit.

To change the crystaline or chemical stucture of just about any moden alloy or steel requires it to be heated up (e.g. energy added) whether it's case hardening (e.g. surface treatment) or anealing (e.g. entire depth of item) or nitriding (heat in non-oxygen environment?) or some other process.

The chemical bonds (and that's all we're talking about here - there's nothing at the subatomic level happening) between the atoms in modern metal alloys have to be strong and require significant addition of heat (e.g. energy) to be changed otherwise an engine would never run - application of heat (e.g. combustion) would make it fail.

So how-the-hell can freezing help? It will make parts fragile while frozen, but once you take that cold away? its the same metal, duh? any phase/crystaline change that might of occuring during freezing will simply reverse itself as energy is added (e.g. warming back to room temp).

I think the freezing fad is based on dodgy science (like cold fusion) and worthless. If you've paid hard cash, then i think you're due a refund (false advertising, misleading scientific claims, etc)

Charles.
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