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biased99 Forums Junkie Registered: May 2002	Re: POLICE abusing POWERS Wed, 23 July 2003 23:32 draven wrote on Wed, 23 July 2003 16:04 did that shit get passed? it sounds like they're giving ASIO the powers the gestapo utilised so effectively a few decades ago. detaining without charges or evidence?!?! I fail to see how that sort of legal authority belongs in a free country. Yes. Whilst it was "watered down" from the original bill, it still gives the authorities the power to detain someone indefinitely on "rolling warrants"; if they find information during the period of the first warrant which "leads to further investigation", they can apply for another one and so on. (Similar in practice to what the US do at Guantanamo bay). Also (and this is important), the onus of proof rests, not with the prosecution, but with the accused. This means that you are, under this legislation, presumed guilty until proven innocent. That's the last I'll post on this subject here, as this is probably best left for the Outhouse...Apologies for the OT posts... [Report message to a moderator]

	Subject	Poster	Date
	POLICE abusing POWERS	PayneyCelica18rg	Fri, 20 June 2003 22:07
	Re: POLICE abusing POWERS	rob_RA40	Fri, 20 June 2003 22:54
	Re: POLICE abusing POWERS	PayneyCelica18rg	Fri, 20 June 2003 23:02
	Re: POLICE abusing POWERS	rob_RA40	Fri, 20 June 2003 23:26
	Re: POLICE abusing POWERS	PayneyCelica18rg	Sat, 21 June 2003 00:00
	Re: POLICE abusing POWERS	toycelica77	Sun, 22 June 2003 06:57
	Re: POLICE abusing POWERS	rob_RA40	Sat, 21 June 2003 00:01
	Re: POLICE abusing POWERS	PayneyCelica18rg	Sat, 21 June 2003 00:16
	Re: POLICE abusing POWERS	gianttomato	Sat, 21 June 2003 00:31
	Re: POLICE abusing POWERS	PayneyCelica18rg	Sat, 21 June 2003 01:42
	Re: POLICE abusing POWERS	gianttomato	Sat, 21 June 2003 01:51
	Re: POLICE abusing POWERS	bozwon	Sat, 21 June 2003 01:51
	Re: POLICE abusing POWERS	PayneyCelica18rg	Sat, 21 June 2003 02:11
	Re: POLICE abusing POWERS	gianttomato	Sat, 21 June 2003 02:26
	Re: POLICE abusing POWERS	RobST162	Sat, 21 June 2003 02:51
	Re: POLICE abusing POWERS	lang	Sat, 21 June 2003 07:09
	Re: POLICE abusing POWERS	biased99	Wed, 23 July 2003 03:58
	Re: POLICE abusing POWERS	draven	Sat, 21 June 2003 04:37
	Re: POLICE abusing POWERS	1JZ.747	Sat, 21 June 2003 05:53
	Re: POLICE abusing POWERS	draven	Sat, 21 June 2003 06:10
	Re: POLICE abusing POWERS	NO-18r	Sun, 22 June 2003 10:51
	Re: POLICE abusing POWERS	jase	Sun, 22 June 2003 12:31
	Re: POLICE abusing POWERS	Soarer	Mon, 23 June 2003 07:05
	Re: POLICE abusing POWERS	Rolla Boy	Mon, 23 June 2003 09:32
	Re: POLICE abusing POWERS	MR PLOW	Mon, 23 June 2003 12:13
	Re: POLICE abusing POWERS	HSV_gal	Tue, 22 July 2003 13:03
	Re: POLICE abusing POWERS	draven	Wed, 23 July 2003 06:04
	Re: POLICE abusing POWERS	biased99	Wed, 23 July 2003 23:32
	Re: POLICE abusing POWERS	venzy	Thu, 20 May 2004 02:59
	Re: POLICE abusing POWERS	coronamark2	Thu, 20 May 2004 04:04
	Re: POLICE abusing POWERS	monkeymajik	Thu, 20 May 2004 08:40
	Re: POLICE abusing POWERS	venzy	Thu, 20 May 2004 14:30
	Re: POLICE abusing POWERS	toof	Mon, 07 June 2004 09:21
	Re: POLICE abusing POWERS	gearb0x	Tue, 22 June 2004 06:53
	Re: POLICE abusing POWERS	gearb0x	Tue, 22 June 2004 06:56
	Re: POLICE abusing POWERS	Caledwvech	Fri, 21 May 2004 00:33
	Re: POLICE abusing POWERS	SetMeFree	Fri, 21 May 2004 08:53
	Re: POLICE abusing POWERS	Arch	Fri, 21 May 2004 13:00
	Re: POLICE abusing POWERS	venzy	Fri, 21 May 2004 15:34
	Re: POLICE abusing POWERS	Shraka	Fri, 21 May 2004 16:08
	Re: POLICE abusing POWERS	Toobs	Fri, 28 May 2004 15:44
	Re: POLICE abusing POWERS	Isometric_Bacon	Sat, 05 June 2004 12:56
	Re: POLICE abusing POWERS	draven	Sat, 05 June 2004 15:36
	Re: POLICE abusing POWERS	4DaDrift	Fri, 11 June 2004 13:20
	Re: POLICE abusing POWERS	takai	Sat, 05 June 2004 23:26
	Re: POLICE abusing POWERS	Arch	Sun, 06 June 2004 03:24

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