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7M-Brisbane Forums Junkie Location: Brisbane Registered: November 2002	Re: how much better is the 20v blacktp than the 20v silvertop? Sat, 26 July 2003 10:38 Quote: hey 7m-brisane... wats with---> Hell, you'd still get pasted by your average yellow-cap-wearing V6 Commodore driver??? my 16v is quicker than those bogan driven v6 crumpledores... so how do u explain that one..and no my engine is not some crazy worked off its nut thing that dont idle below 1500rpm..it happily likes to idle at 900rpm... Said commodore driver probably runs low to flat 16's. If it was manual it would be in the 15's (although only just). Basic maths suggests that if my friends cars run low 16's, and commodores run that time or faster... then my comment would be true. A lot of it is in power delivery too. The 20v is a revvy motor with high peak power... not much good on the street but probably fantastic in a Clubman. Even a heavily warmed over atmo 20v would struggle to make 170hp. Not much good on the street. As I said, they're not a completely useless motor... but certainly no good in a street car unless you start talking forced induction. In which case you're talking a fair amount of dollars and you shoudl have just bought a better engine in the first place. Oh, and I didn't ever say that a 20v will not idle. Sounds like you're getting a little defensive that someone disagrees with your choice of motor [Report message to a moderator]

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	how much better is the 20v blacktp than the 20v silvertop?	AE92poit	Sat, 25 January 2003 14:18
	Re: how much better is the 20v blacktp than the 20v silvertop?	pepsicola	Sat, 25 January 2003 14:30
	Re: how much better is the 20v blacktp than the 20v silvertop?	pepsicola	Sat, 25 January 2003 14:30
	Re: how much better is the 20v blacktp than the 20v silvertop?	pepsicola	Sat, 25 January 2003 14:31
	Re: how much better is the 20v blacktp than the 20v silvertop?	juzzo84	Sun, 26 January 2003 00:37
	Re: how much better is the 20v blacktp than the 20v silvertop?	bass_boy	Fri, 25 July 2003 02:29
	Re: how much better is the 20v blacktp than the 20v silvertop?	7M-Brisbane	Fri, 25 July 2003 04:49
	Re: how much better is the 20v blacktp than the 20v silvertop?	gianttomato	Fri, 25 July 2003 04:56
	Re: how much better is the 20v blacktp than the 20v silvertop?	juzzo84	Tue, 29 July 2003 07:52
	Re: how much better is the 20v blacktp than the 20v silvertop?	nos4ag	Tue, 29 July 2003 09:59
	Re: how much better is the 20v blacktp than the 20v silvertop?	Johnny	Tue, 29 July 2003 15:38
	Re: how much better is the 20v blacktp than the 20v silvertop?	wastegate	Tue, 29 July 2003 22:27
	Re: how much better is the 20v blacktp than the 20v silvertop?	CelicaRA45	Tue, 29 July 2003 23:26
	Re: how much better is the 20v blacktp than the 20v silvertop?	-Mark-	Fri, 25 July 2003 06:39
	Re: how much better is the 20v blacktp than the 20v silvertop?	EvilJack	Fri, 25 July 2003 08:21
	Re: how much better is the 20v blacktp than the 20v silvertop?	-Mark-	Fri, 25 July 2003 13:28
	Re: how much better is the 20v blacktp than the 20v silvertop?	7M-Brisbane	Fri, 25 July 2003 10:02
	Re: how much better is the 20v blacktp than the 20v silvertop?	7M-Brisbane	Fri, 25 July 2003 13:46
	Re: how much better is the 20v blacktp than the 20v silvertop?	-Mark-	Fri, 25 July 2003 13:51
	Re: how much better is the 20v blacktp than the 20v silvertop?	roadrunner	Fri, 25 July 2003 14:35
	Re: how much better is the 20v blacktp than the 20v silvertop?	-Mark-	Fri, 25 July 2003 14:39
	Re: how much better is the 20v blacktp than the 20v silvertop?	bass_boy	Sat, 26 July 2003 02:51
	Re: how much better is the 20v blacktp than the 20v silvertop?	-Mark-	Sat, 26 July 2003 04:41
	Re: how much better is the 20v blacktp than the 20v silvertop?	bass_boy	Sat, 26 July 2003 06:11
	Re: how much better is the 20v blacktp than the 20v silvertop?	-blown20v-	Sat, 26 July 2003 09:42
	Re: how much better is the 20v blacktp than the 20v silvertop?	7M-Brisbane	Sat, 26 July 2003 10:38
	Re: how much better is the 20v blacktp than the 20v silvertop?	-blown20v-	Sat, 26 July 2003 10:49
	Re: how much better is the 20v blacktp than the 20v silvertop?	7M-Brisbane	Sun, 27 July 2003 09:07
	Re: how much better is the 20v blacktp than the 20v silvertop?	Johnny	Sun, 27 July 2003 11:25
	Re: how much better is the 20v blacktp than the 20v silvertop?	wastegate	Mon, 28 July 2003 10:19
	Re: how much better is the 20v blacktp than the 20v silvertop?	CelicaRA45	Mon, 28 July 2003 10:29
	Re: how much better is the 20v blacktp than the 20v silvertop?	EMP-2TG	Sun, 27 July 2003 14:48
	Re: how much better is the 20v blacktp than the 20v silvertop?	Johnny	Sun, 27 July 2003 23:49
	Re: how much better is the 20v blacktp than the 20v silvertop?	ae86drift	Sun, 27 July 2003 15:24
	Re: how much better is the 20v blacktp than the 20v silvertop?	seeks	Mon, 28 July 2003 02:55
	Re: how much better is the 20v blacktp than the 20v silvertop?	Nark	Mon, 28 July 2003 04:53
	Re: how much better is the 20v blacktp than the 20v silvertop?	Mr_Grumpy	Mon, 28 July 2003 06:19
	Re: how much better is the 20v blacktp than the 20v silvertop?	7M-Brisbane	Mon, 28 July 2003 10:11
	Re: how much better is the 20v blacktp than the 20v silvertop?	gianttomato	Mon, 28 July 2003 10:34
	Re: how much better is the 20v blacktp than the 20v silvertop?	wastegate	Mon, 28 July 2003 10:56
	Re: how much better is the 20v blacktp than the 20v silvertop?	Seadog	Mon, 28 July 2003 12:31
	Re: how much better is the 20v blacktp than the 20v silvertop?	Seadog	Mon, 28 July 2003 12:34
	Re: how much better is the 20v blacktp than the 20v silvertop?	EMP-2TG	Mon, 28 July 2003 12:59
	Re: how much better is the 20v blacktp than the 20v silvertop?	CelicaRA45	Tue, 29 July 2003 07:22
	Re: how much better is the 20v blacktp than the 20v silvertop?	Seadog	Tue, 29 July 2003 23:25
	Re: how much better is the 20v blacktp than the 20v silvertop?	wastegate	Tue, 29 July 2003 23:41
	Re: how much better is the 20v blacktp than the 20v silvertop?	Johnny	Wed, 30 July 2003 04:07
	Re: how much better is the 20v blacktp than the 20v silvertop?	wastegate	Wed, 30 July 2003 05:34
	Re: how much better is the 20v blacktp than the 20v silvertop?	Johnny	Thu, 31 July 2003 03:04
	Re: how much better is the 20v blacktp than the 20v silvertop?	EMP-2TG	Wed, 30 July 2003 07:31
	Re: how much better is the 20v blacktp than the 20v silvertop?	-Mark-	Wed, 30 July 2003 13:33

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